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sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 04:38 PM

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here it is, i got bored and decided to make myself a short shifter, its easy as hell, its sweet as hell too!

sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 04:39 PM

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sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 04:42 PM

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bigtime 08-30-2002 04:45 PM

explain how u did it... i have a short shifter but i still wanna know

sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 04:52 PM

i took the shifter rod out. make sure you dont lose any of the bushings or get gear oil all over your car. basically i just wrapped a towl around the big ball on the bottom of the shift rod, put it in a vise, put a pair of vise grips on it a twisted the top off, you can see where the threaded part of the shift rod is cast and the only thing holding it on is the rubber sleeve inside it, its just a pressed fit. after that all thats left is a rod and i just tapped the end of it with a tap and die set and screwed on the shift knob, ill brb and get a pick of the part i took off the shift rod.

sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 05:00 PM

oops i messed soemthing up, disregard this reply.

sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 05:03 PM

it twists right off, and the other half you just use a tap and die so you can thread on your shift knob, it makes a really short throw, its really nice. i didnt feel like spending 200 bucks to buy one, im still not sure if its a true short shifter though?

sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 05:05 PM

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sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 05:09 PM

you dont even need this piece, chuck it at something

Rob x-7 08-30-2002 05:10 PM

Tell us how it feels on the car, and if it vibrates or anything like that, if it vibrates you may want to weigh it down, a good way would be to get some of those stick on weights the tire shops use on the inside of rims. And another thing- hide your stereo wires for christs sakes! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

SoRRoW 08-30-2002 05:46 PM

Thats not shorting the throw..You just shortened the stick...



Its called Rice.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

89 Rag 08-30-2002 06:32 PM

I like the first shot, a Haynes manual in the passenger side door pocket. Never leave home without it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Turbo II 08-30-2002 07:44 PM

i cut that metal piece also. and no my car doesnt viberate. and sorrow it actually does shorten the throw.

Felix Wankel 08-30-2002 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo II' date='Aug 30 2002, 08:44 PM
i cut that metal piece also. and no my car doesnt viberate. and sorrow it actually does shorten the throw.

I've measured it. 4" stock throw in my TII, a cut down shifter had a 4" throw in the same car. All you are doing with a cut shifter is increasing the effort it takes to shift, making you *think* you shortened the throw.

vosko 08-30-2002 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Felix Wankel' date='Aug 30 2002, 09:04 PM
[quote name='Turbo II' date='Aug 30 2002, 08:44 PM']i cut that metal piece also. and no my car doesnt viberate. and sorrow it actually does shorten the throw.

I've measured it. 4" stock throw in my TII, a cut down shifter had a 4" throw in the same car. All you are doing with a cut shifter is increasing the effort it takes to shift, making you *think* you shortened the throw.[/quote]

i was wondering about the pivot point..... wasn't sure though

SoRRoW 08-30-2002 09:42 PM

The pivot point is where the alteration is made from stock to shorten the throw..



I have seen this over and over where people cut the shifter and think they have a short shifter...

I need to find the article I read on a website about it..and post it here...

sleeperRX7 08-30-2002 10:57 PM

it feels good, vibrates a little, but that was to be expected, if you read my posts a little more througly youd know i said (i was not sure this was a short throw shifter!)and it does not take any effort to shift it, its just like before,lol how is this rice? am i suppose to leave the car completely stock so people like you dont call me rice? **** that ill do what i like, haha i never leave home with out the haynes manual, its my bible,lol ill try adding some of those weights, ive got a box of em from where i used to work. :bigok: ill let ya know if the rattle goes away, but mazdatrix says there short shifters rattle, but its only car specific? weird, later

SoRRoW 08-30-2002 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by sleeperRX7' date='Aug 30 2002, 11:57 PM
(i was not sure this was a short throw shifter!)and it does not take any effort to shift it, its just like before,lol how is this rice? am i suppose to leave the car completely stock so people like you dont call me rice? **** that ill do what i like,





7. custom short throw shifter

Ok my car is far from stock...and that dont have **** to do with rice..

In your sig you posted you have a custom short throw shifter..



I explained to you why its not a short throw shifter..cause you said your not sure..and your still assuming it is..Yeah it does feel difrent ..you took out about 2-3 inches of your shifter..and no its not a short throw shifter..

The term short throw is made from the shortness in the pivot point and not the shifter stick it self..



You will soon understand whats rice and whats not..

That was your lesson number 1 ..



If you want a shifter Im tring to do a group buy on shifters for 84-88 trannys it will be $140 shipped to your door..BUT it will take about 2-3 weeks..on regular order...Its coming from overseas..

SoRRoW 08-30-2002 11:09 PM


From Mazda Trix


The shorter throw of these Short Throw Shifters is accompolished by changing the pivot point of the lever. The distance the knob travels when shifting is shortened to 3 1/2" from the original 6".

sleeperRX7 08-31-2002 12:35 AM

i said it was custom because i made it and didnt pay for it, there fore it is custom, doing something like what i did doesnt make it rice because you think its rice. anyways cant we all just get along?lol



anyways yes id be interested in a group buy, let me know about it because i really want the real thing, this was just to pass time and boredom, but it is nice https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

SoniX 08-31-2002 03:58 AM

he has a short shifter, but not a short throw shifter, in essence, it is a cosmetic mod, because imo, the stock shifter is kind of stupid, sitting all high in the air and everything, this is, interesting looking, but still better than having a shift knob on stilts, it doesn't shorten the throw at all however.

Felix Wankel 08-31-2002 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by SoniX' date='Aug 31 2002, 04:58 AM
he has a short shifter, but not a short throw shifter, in essence, it is a cosmetic mod, because imo, the stock shifter is kind of stupid, sitting all high in the air and everything, this is, interesting looking, but still better than having a shift knob on stilts, it doesn't shorten the throw at all however.

I don't like them. The further you have to move your hand away from the wheel to shift, the longer it takes. The shift throw is long enough as it is, why make it take even LONGER to shift?

SoniX 08-31-2002 11:24 AM

yeah, from a driving perspective it is worse, I know if my shift knob moved, I would probably kill myself, because I would miss it completely, and instead of shifting, I would slap myself, then lose control and crash, but, as far as asthetics go, it is different (some will say better looking, some will say stupid looking, I am undecided)

SoRRoW 08-31-2002 11:47 AM

Everyone here is argueing...



Ok heres the deal...the concept of a "short throw shifter"is to shorten the pivot point of the shifter to make the throws short...and take less effort..



When you cut 2-3 inches off of a shifter of course it feels diffrent..

The same pivot point is there though..



Its hard to understand when you dont know about it..Like I said before Im gonan try to find out the website that has the info..and diagram on it..



Aslo Sonix wtf does IMO mean?

Rob x-7 08-31-2002 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Aug 31 2002, 12:47 PM
Everyone here is argueing...



Ok heres the deal...the concept of a "short throw shifter"is to shorten the pivot point of the shifter to make the throws short...and take less effort..



When you cut 2-3 inches off of a shifter of course it feels diffrent..

The same pivot point is there though..



Its hard to understand when you dont know about it..Like I said before Im gonan try to find out the website that has the info..and diagram on it..



Aslo Sonix wtf does IMO mean?

IMO- in my opinion...... how many times are you people going to go back and forth saying the same thing? I feel like Im watching a group of old people argue back and forth. facts: we know he didnt shorten the shift, he shortened the handle,fact: he SAID HE WASNT SURE IF HE MADE A SHORT THROW SHIFTER OR NOT, fact: a short throw shifter reduces the throw of a shift, once you drive a car with a short throw shifter that you drove without one, you will know the difference. fact: we all know the above facts, so we can stop throwing the same thing back and forth, no need to find your article. And who the **** cares what his signature says anyhow, let the guy do what he wants to his car, at least he had the ambition to do something without asking 14653 questions on the internet about it first. I would however hide those RCA, power cables, and whatever else you have running along side your center console next time your bored.

bigtime 08-31-2002 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Felix Wankel' date='Aug 31 2002, 10:51 AM
[quote name='SoniX' date='Aug 31 2002, 04:58 AM']he has a short shifter, but not a short throw shifter, in essence, it is a cosmetic mod, because imo, the stock shifter is kind of stupid, sitting all high in the air and everything, this is, interesting looking, but still better than having a shift knob on stilts, it doesn't shorten the throw at all however.

I don't like them. The further you have to move your hand away from the wheel to shift, the longer it takes. The shift throw is long enough as it is, why make it take even LONGER to shift?[/quote]

why do u have both hands on the wheel b4 u shift? i just have on on the wheel and one on the shifter at all times

sleeperRX7 08-31-2002 10:15 PM

yeah, left hand on the wheel, right hand on the shifter, left foot on clutch, right foot on brakes/gas not to hard to do?lol hehe yeah im gonna hide those cables one of these days. later

Felix Wankel 09-01-2002 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime1148' date='Aug 31 2002, 04:51 PM
[quote name='Felix Wankel' date='Aug 31 2002, 10:51 AM'][quote name='SoniX' date='Aug 31 2002, 04:58 AM']he has a short shifter, but not a short throw shifter, in essence, it is a cosmetic mod, because imo, the stock shifter is kind of stupid, sitting all high in the air and everything, this is, interesting looking, but still better than having a shift knob on stilts, it doesn't shorten the throw at all however.

I don't like them. The further you have to move your hand away from the wheel to shift, the longer it takes. The shift throw is long enough as it is, why make it take even LONGER to shift?[/quote]

why do u have both hands on the wheel b4 u shift? i just have on on the wheel and one on the shifter at all times[/quote]

Yeah, I forgot that the gangsta lean is the preferred driving style for taking curves...

sleeperRX7 09-01-2002 03:50 AM

no no no its more than that,lol :bigok:

SoniX 09-01-2002 06:22 AM

yeah, I just noticed the wires, you know that running the power and RCA cables together like that is likely to cause some interference, most wiring kits, and almost all (good) stereo shops will run the power cable on the opposite side of the car from the rca cables, I ran my power cables along the driver side moulding, and the rca and remote wires along the center, maybe you won't notice it, if you are not running much power, but you will most likely see an increase in sound quality by moving your power wire.

sleeperRX7 09-02-2002 06:02 PM

damn, i read on that before and for some reason i forgot all about that, the only interference i can think of is a hiss when the volume is turned down? but i have three 10" JL Audio subs, 4 guage power wire, and a 600 watt 4 channell Crunch amp. the subs get pushed hard as hell, i want another amp like ive got but they dotn make my model anymore?later

isamu 09-02-2002 06:57 PM

The rally drivers are always one handing it, lol.


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