I find it funny and sad all at once that people think these two candidates are somehow different, to some Obama is their savior and to others the end. To some McCain was to lead them to the light and now all hope is lost. If you expect a corporately picked candidate to do ANYTHING for you the people you are naive and in fact as much a part of the problem as they are. Dems, Reps no different, none of them are looking out for you, they are looking out for the best interests of their masters... which are not you. The fact that 90% of the nation was AGAINST the bank bail out and they still voted for it should be proof to everyone that your voice goes unheard and yet apparently it is not. You are not truly free if you have the power to say whatever you want, but no one listens, hell even in the most strict dictatorships people can say whatever they want from the comfort of their bathroom... while no one is listening, you see my point?



The only thing all of this proves to me is that the process of "stupifying" americans has succeeded, our education system is intentionally broken, it teaches you to be part of the system not to fight it, it makes you stupid.



If you buy into this system, this "democracy" then you have nothing to complain about, Obama was "elected" by the majority, at least gore followers had a beef, gore won the popular and lost the election. I see no argument, if you voted for one of the two dirtbags you have no ground to bitch IMO, you were a part of the system, you participated and it "worked" as it should, the stupid majority spoke and you as a part of that system must accept it.

 

While I agree with Phins to a point, especially that the two party system is a guarantee of a bought-and-paid-for corporate pawn in the white house, I do find significant differences between them. Most significantly, the changes that Obama plans to make to the tax code will stifle hiring and corporate spending and ensure that the economic meltdown persists. Taxes under McCain would not increase the burden to small businesses and would (IMO) help to facilitate a recovery.



See my previous references to the paradox of the Liberal Economist. There are none--only liberal charlatans who claim to be economists.

 

I kinda get a chuckle out of political spending and taxes debates.



For the last 8 years spending has far out ran income, yet that's better than collecting money to cover that spending?



Do people really believe that's OK now?

 

If's and but's, we'll see if Obama actually accomplishes any of the tax reform he claimed to champion, Jimmy Carter had great plans too and he was not "Washington Insider" and look at how little he was able to accomplish. You are again laboring under the impression that the bought and paid for Obama will 1) buck his masters and tax them and 2) they will allow it to go unchecked (JFK??)



You see this is again where you derail, by coming to this conclusion they are different because they talk about Abortion, Gay Marriage, Taxes, Guns and yet guess what... neither party ever makes any effort sees the fruit of an effort to change these things. Bush had rep congress for most of his presidency, one of his massive campaign issues that separated him from the other party was Gay Marriage.... nothing was done. Again the belief that there is some difference between the two is smoke an mirrors, good cop bad cop, it keeps you from realizing the truth, the fact that when it comes to ******* over the American people both parties agree it will be done.

 

DING DING DING, wow we have a winner. You mean to say we can't just print whatever money we want, run up debt and not have to have it effect joe 6 packs paycheck in some way??? WOW what a revelation.



Oh but see what the reps did was very inflationary, they just didn't add an "income tax" to run us into the the largest debtor nation the world has ever seen, they printed more money, took on more debt and guess what is headed our way thanks to W and his cartel.... INFLATION and do you know what inflation is??? ITS A ******* TAX.



Where is this "less gov't" mantra that supposedly again separates the reps from the dems???? Where? Regan, Bush sr, Bush 2 all racked up the largest national debts and deficits in the history of our nation and yet somehow it's the dems with their taxes that are taking money out of our pocket. NEWSFLASH, they are ALL ROBBING YOU OF YOUR WEALTH.



Let me say this just one more time cause I don't seem to say it enough.



INFLATION IS A TAX, look if you buy ANYTHING and it costs you 25% more then it used to due to inflation you have less money in your pocket right? If the fed gov't raises your taxes you have less money in your pocket right??? Gee, it's amazing how similar those two are inflation and taxes both remove money from my pocket it's almost like what... wait for it, wait for it.... inflation and taxes have the same effect on Joe 6 pack......



WEIMAR, history repeats itself. Ben Bernanke has a PHD in printing money, it's all he knows, he's a Keynesian there is no doubt about that, just look at the BS with interest rates and "stimulus" packages, pages strait from the Keynes playbook, in fact it's the founding principles of the idealogy, it does not work, eventually it caves in on itself.... the hole gets too big.

 

I firmly believe that the way to reduce the deficit is to reduce spending, not increase taxes.

 

gee what a novel idea, wasn't that one of W's campaign promises? Reduce gov't spending? How did that go? Did he stick to that founding republican party concept? If he didn't then how does that issue separate dems from reps? Seems to me that after all these years when dems and reps have made their supposed differences clear and not accomplished a damn one of them it should be hard for any voter to believe that those differences exist.



If you flip a two headed coin and come up with heads each time do you eventually begin to realize that both sides are the same or do you continue flipping the coin and assuming the other side is tails? As long as I keep telling you it has a tails side will you believe me? When does it start to sink in? 10 flips, 100 flips, 10 elections, 44? Eventually I would home one comes to the conclusion that both sides are heads even if I tell you otehrwise.

 

Perhaps W's biggest mistake was committing us to a big-ticket quagmire in Iraq. Certainly, the price tag on that little misadventure has been a tad large. Other than that, I don't think he's been doing too much shopping.

 

How many extra government employees are there now than in 2000?



The poorest millionaire on his cabinet has an oil tanker named after her, how high did fuel rise during the last 8 years?

 

The middle east thanx him for this,without american backing nukes would have been flying by now