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01-05-2006, 04:51 PM
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
650watt Power supply
Video Cooling
Nforce 4 SL1 Motherboard
512MB PCI-Express x16 NVIDIA Geforce 7800GTX
1GB Low-Latency Dual Channel DDR PC-3200 at 400MHz - 2 x 512MB
80GB Serial ATA 7,200 RPM w/8MB Cache
16x DVD-ROM Drive with Software DVD Decoder
Integrated High-Performance 7.1 Surround Sound with S/PDIF and Coaxial Digital Outputs
Integrated High Performance Gigabit Ethernet
Opinions? Am I missing anything that you guys would suggest?
Yes I know i dont have a mouse, keyboard, or monitor on there.
650watt Power supply
Video Cooling
Nforce 4 SL1 Motherboard
512MB PCI-Express x16 NVIDIA Geforce 7800GTX
1GB Low-Latency Dual Channel DDR PC-3200 at 400MHz - 2 x 512MB
80GB Serial ATA 7,200 RPM w/8MB Cache
16x DVD-ROM Drive with Software DVD Decoder
Integrated High-Performance 7.1 Surround Sound with S/PDIF and Coaxial Digital Outputs
Integrated High Performance Gigabit Ethernet
Opinions? Am I missing anything that you guys would suggest?
Yes I know i dont have a mouse, keyboard, or monitor on there.
01-05-2006, 05:58 PM
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sounds like a nice setup..
couple suggestions:
650 watt power supply is overkill. when i got my 520watt i considered it overkill. for our GFS simulators at work, we run 420watt... granted there are three.. anything over 500 you should be fine.. better safe than sorry. they aren't that expensive.
if you go 7.1 surround, make sure you get a speaker setup that can handle it, or close to it.. i noticed it said integrated.. and i am absolutely against integrated, but to each his own.. when i worked for dell, it was the integrated sound/video that always gave us hell.. just overall a pain in the *** to fix.
my soundblaster is 7.1, my speakers 5.1... klipsch setup came with a sub, and 5 satellite speakers.. the box probably weighed like 50-75 lbs. the sound is great.. once again.. overkill in my book. but i love it.
video card sounds awesome, i didn't look the motherboard up, but make sure it has a pci express slot on it, if you go pci express (which you should)
couple suggestions:
650 watt power supply is overkill. when i got my 520watt i considered it overkill. for our GFS simulators at work, we run 420watt... granted there are three.. anything over 500 you should be fine.. better safe than sorry. they aren't that expensive.
if you go 7.1 surround, make sure you get a speaker setup that can handle it, or close to it.. i noticed it said integrated.. and i am absolutely against integrated, but to each his own.. when i worked for dell, it was the integrated sound/video that always gave us hell.. just overall a pain in the *** to fix.
my soundblaster is 7.1, my speakers 5.1... klipsch setup came with a sub, and 5 satellite speakers.. the box probably weighed like 50-75 lbs. the sound is great.. once again.. overkill in my book. but i love it.
video card sounds awesome, i didn't look the motherboard up, but make sure it has a pci express slot on it, if you go pci express (which you should)
01-05-2006, 06:03 PM
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Yeah that was just some stuff I mixed and matched on Alienware's website, came to about the $2700 mark. Id just assume go with them I suppose, at least they will give me a warranty. Hey boxers, what do you know about their liquid cooling methods. Their towers already come with multiple fans, is the rest of that **** overkill or what?
On a completely unrelated note, I went to Falcon PCs site, and I was just ******* around and build a system for rougly $17,300! Thats nuts.
On a completely unrelated note, I went to Falcon PCs site, and I was just ******* around and build a system for rougly $17,300! Thats nuts.
01-05-2006, 06:03 PM
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one more thing. make sure the vid card and monitor are both dvi capable. im sure your vid card is, just make sure the monitor is too.
here's the monitor i bought. it's awesome.. 8ms response time, dvi, 19", and it looks awesome
they are running a rebate on it now.. which knocks it down to about 430. i got a good deal on it several months ago for i think around 350 after rebate. so i couldn't pass it up. if you want to do gaming, i suggest 19" as well, i wanted 17", but a friend convinced me that 19" is that much better, and with a nice vid card you still will not run into choppiness, or pixelation problems.
search newegg and amazon. you can usually turn up good items.
edit: i was advised not to get a monitor with a response time of anything greater than 12ms
here's the monitor i bought. it's awesome.. 8ms response time, dvi, 19", and it looks awesome
they are running a rebate on it now.. which knocks it down to about 430. i got a good deal on it several months ago for i think around 350 after rebate. so i couldn't pass it up. if you want to do gaming, i suggest 19" as well, i wanted 17", but a friend convinced me that 19" is that much better, and with a nice vid card you still will not run into choppiness, or pixelation problems.
search newegg and amazon. you can usually turn up good items.
edit: i was advised not to get a monitor with a response time of anything greater than 12ms
01-05-2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by boxrs4sale' post='792265' date='Jan 5 2006, 04:03 PM
one more thing. make sure the vid card and monitor are both dvi capable. im sure your vid card is, just make sure the monitor is too.
here's the monitor i bought. it's awesome.. 8ms response time, dvi, 19", and it looks awesome
they are running a rebate on it now.. which knocks it down to about 430. i got a good deal on it several months ago for i think around 350 after rebate. so i couldn't pass it up. if you want to do gaming, i suggest 19" as well, i wanted 17", but a friend convinced me that 19" is that much better, and with a nice vid card you still will not run into choppiness, or pixelation problems.
search newegg and amazon. you can usually turn up good items.
edit: i was advised not to get a monitor with a response time of anything greater than 12ms
Yeah the video card is dvi capable. Supposedly the only thing better than it is running two of them
I found a monitor that has a 4ms response time, 19", but its expensive. Would I even see a difference between 4ms and 8ms?
01-05-2006, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sweet7' post='792267' date='Jan 5 2006, 04:10 PM
I found a monitor that has a 4ms response time, 19", but its expensive. Would I even see a difference between 4ms and 8ms?
lol. i really don't think so, but the lower the response time, the better..
the monitor i bought looks great, has great reviews and i wouldn't settle for any other one.
it's kinda like a hot chick in your bed... call her Stacey.. she is absolutely hot, performs incredible and suits my needs.. Then you have Sally... Sally is supposed to be better in bed, just by a margin, but doesn't look as nice and you are so thrilled with Stacey, you say **** it, wait a couple years and see if you ever get tired of Stacey..
so maybe in a couple years if Stacey isn't up to par, or is lagging behind the competition, it might be time to get a lower response time.. but 8ms is great.
wow. lusting over computer parts.. hahahahhaha..
01-05-2006, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sweet7' post='792264' date='Jan 5 2006, 04:03 PM
Yeah that was just some stuff I mixed and matched on Alienware's website, came to about the $2700 mark.
that seems extremely high. especially without a monitor and integrated sound.
i built my entire system: monitor, speakers, case.. EVERYTHING for no more than 2200 before rebates.. after i got my cash back i think it ran about 1800 and it's the equivalent of that system.. granted my vid card is 256 7800 GT instead of the 512 7800GTX.
i still have more hd space, and faster memory.
take your time. SHOP AROUND... you can find killer rebates that will save you hundreds.. my sound card was between 180-200, i got it with rebate for 93... you might want to try your hand at building.. it's easy... everything has instructions, and mother boards don't have shitloads of jumpers on them like they used to.
im me:boxrs4sale if you want any input or have questions.
01-05-2006, 06:35 PM
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I read through real quick and saw some of your questions. One reguarding liquid cooling... while this has a WOW factor... I guarantee it is not at all needed for anything. I mean, if you want to run a water tower with a refrigeration unit next to your hundreds of dollars worth of sensetive electrical equipment, with tubes running inside... go for it.. but I wouldnt recommend it. Its not going to help with much.
The other question was about the power supply. While anything over 500 watts is going to be compatable with your stuff, the 650 will be better simply because the nvidia cards use up so much power. They will kill anything smaller than a 500... making your cpu and gpu overheat. I mean, you can technically do it, just not for too long.
Go with what you want, the higher the safer. But a 500 will work like what was said previously.
And onto alienware... They make neat looking setups and all, but you pay double for it. You can build equal setups for half the price, everytime. They do offer warranties on their systems ... but honestly, what goes wrong, and when/if it does, replacement parts are never more than 110 dollars. So whats the point of paying 1000 dollars more to help replace a 50 dollar part. Not to mention the shipping time.
Build it yourself, its not hard. Most people get scared when they see circuitboards but all you do is plug the **** in and do some simple diagnostics if anything doesnt work. With todays technology though, just about everything is compatable, so not much to worry about. Its not like back in the day when you had 5 different types of ram to choose from and if it wasnt a particular type nothing would run. etc...
Anyways, good luck.
The other question was about the power supply. While anything over 500 watts is going to be compatable with your stuff, the 650 will be better simply because the nvidia cards use up so much power. They will kill anything smaller than a 500... making your cpu and gpu overheat. I mean, you can technically do it, just not for too long.
Go with what you want, the higher the safer. But a 500 will work like what was said previously.
And onto alienware... They make neat looking setups and all, but you pay double for it. You can build equal setups for half the price, everytime. They do offer warranties on their systems ... but honestly, what goes wrong, and when/if it does, replacement parts are never more than 110 dollars. So whats the point of paying 1000 dollars more to help replace a 50 dollar part. Not to mention the shipping time.
Build it yourself, its not hard. Most people get scared when they see circuitboards but all you do is plug the **** in and do some simple diagnostics if anything doesnt work. With todays technology though, just about everything is compatable, so not much to worry about. Its not like back in the day when you had 5 different types of ram to choose from and if it wasnt a particular type nothing would run. etc...
Anyways, good luck.