lane_change

Ok, well I was so close to getting my car running and now I don't know what is wrong.



Well, I finally got my battery hooked back up and my alarm went off. The lights were flashing, interiot lights, tail lights, etc....I had removed the horn last year. It was a DEI alarm that was on the car when I bought it. I don't have the key fob things, so I was unable to shut the alarm off unless I could start my car, which I can't, since I don't have my fuel pump wired up yet. Well anyways, I decided to get rid of the alarm, so I followed all the wires to where they went and I removed them all, none of them appeared to be a part of my factory wiring, they were all either clipped on or saudered on. Well I removed that whole mess and tried to see if all my lights would work. Nothing....no horn, tailights, blinkers, radio, dash lights, nothing works except my headlights and my power windows...even my power mirrors quit working.



Does anyone have any idea how that could be? I was really hoping to start and drive my car this week for the first time in 10 months and now I have no juice inside my car. Everything worked with the alarm installed as far as I knew, since I could not shut the alarm off I was unable to check all my lights and radio, but I know the dash lights and interior lights were working because they were flashing at me until I unhooked the battery to kill it.



If anyone has any suggestions on what it could be, it would be much appreciated. Could it be a fuse? or a connection? The alarm had it's own fuses and relays and such....but I assumed if the dash lights worked yesterday, then they should work today, but I was wrong. I am confused as hell and I don't know anything about car alarms so I am at a loss.



Thanks,

Scott

Rob x-7

check with a alarm/stereo shop

apexkw

check the main fuse...you might have blown it.

j9fd3s

i pmed you a suggestion

lane_change

I went through my entire car today.....and removed all wires from the old DEI alarm and the Autopage security system. There was two cut wires....one was a Black/Blue Stripe wire below the steering column (ignition wire I believe) and the other was in the main stereo harness, I removed both alarm wires and re saudered the old wires back to one another. All the other wires were simply spliced into the other wires, either with little clamps or saudered onto the other wire like a T. I cut all those alarm wires off of the factory wires and taped up the bare wire on the original wire. I tried again and same ****. My headlights, windows, A/C, Defrost, High Beams, even my High Bean Indicator light comes on, but the dash lights, interior lights, brake lights, horn, door locks, radio, and even my PFC Commander (which was not wired into the alarm in any way).....all of that still does not work. It is fucked up.



I am curious about an engine ground. I relocated my battery to the rear passenger cubby bin and I have it grounded to the chassis. But where the battery used to be was a ground of course and I simply cut it off, thinking I did not need it anymore. I also have a wiring harness ground not hooked up below the spark plugs that should go to the engine block I assume. Could those grounds be my problem? Also, all the dash cluster lights and interior lights were all flashing when the alarm was first going off, so I know they all work, but once I removed the alarm they no longer do, so would those engine grounds have anything to do with it since it worked with the alarm in, but not with the alarm out?



My other question would be about some relays, were there any relays below the dash factory, that they may have removed when they installed the alarm, and now that I removed the alarm, now I have no relays at all? I am most curoius about the ECU and the Brake Lights....those are odd to not work, I would think they would work all the time regardless of the ignition switch.



I also checked my main fuse and it is still good. The ground may be the answer, I am not real good with electronics. I will ground all that **** tomorrow and check again. I am afraid a stereo shop would want to see my car, then charge me an arm and a leg to fix it......that would be a last resort. If you can help any more, please try.



Thanks,

Scott

Srce

Alright, when peolle install car alarms they have to tap into your batter which can tap into your wireing harness that is connected into EVEERYTHING. So, when you cut one (Any) of those wires, **** can happen. In order to diffuse the alarm, you should have cut the wires that go from the alarm box into the spliced harness of wires which you did end up cutting ******* EVERYTHING up. We have a guy at work who ONLY does alarms on sold cars so he tells me these things.



My suggestion: Put back everything you cut, find the box, and cut the wires going from the box into the harness.

lane_change

Hahahaha....put all that **** back in? No way....there was like 25 wires or some ****....I can't do all that, I wouldn't have the slightest clue where any of that **** went.



Thanks though,

Scott

Srce

LOL, if you say so man!!!

Srce

BTW, you cut over 25 wires, what the HELL is wrong with you man. LOL

lane_change

Yeah...but they were all wires that were not stock. They were simply a mess of wires coming out of the DEI alarm system and out of the Autopage system. I made sure that none of my factory wires were touched. I simply removed the alarm system....all of it. I had 3-4 wires spliced below my ignition, one wire to my rear brake lights, 3-4 wires to my main stereo wiring harness, 3-4 grounds, and a mess of wires running in between the two seperate control units....all of those paired up with the misc. wires running to relays and little power boxes and ****. So as far as I know....me entire stock wiring harness is complete and in tact. I fixed the two wires that had been actually seperated from itself and saudered those two back together like factory and I removed all the splices into all of my other connections and made sure that the connections were still there and simply taped them all back up....and removed the grounding points and relays. What I have removed from my car never was in my car to begin with. I traced all of my wires and found no other connections or misc. other parts anywhere.



It is either that grounding situation I have in the engine bay, or it is that when the alarm was originally installed, that factory parts were removed and now I will have to figure something out. I am going to go look at my friends FD tomorrow and look under his dash and see if I can see any major differences off the top of my head between his harness and mine. I need to get my wiring all straightened up by Friday or Saturday, because I am supposed to be loading some maps into my PFC and I will need juice to my ECU in order to do so.



If anyone else has any other ideas, please let me know. I need all the help I can get.



Thanks,

Scott