Blahahaha - I Got Written Up
09-08-2005, 09:35 AM
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So, I got put on 'Verbal Warning' yesterday at the office for excessive tardiness. I thought I was doing pretty well in that department, so I asked my supervisor if he could tell me when I was late and where. Here's the correspondance:
I love how I can be arbitrarily put on probation because someone thinks I was late at some time on some consecutive days over the last month.. Which, aside from Monday, I'd have to argue with.
I knew there was a reason I'd never become management - I actually think managing people requires personal skills and a helpful attitude. Anytime I ask my supervisor any question, I feel like I'm gonna get fired. WTF.
-----Original Message-----
From: Szablya, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:22 PM
To: Cline, Ryan
Subject: Tardiness
Hey,
Just wondering if you have some kind of data on my tardiness frequency, because I was under the impression that even though I call you on a regular basis, anticipating my tardiness, I most often manage to get in by 8AM. Seems to me that it's only been recently (over the last two weeks) that I've had a problem with being a few minutes late. I know I'm probably way off, but if you have any data, it'd help me figure out what is going on so I can best correct it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cline, Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:26 PM
To: Szablya, Steve
Subject: RE: Tardiness
5 times in 3 weeks (4 weeks if you count the week you were off). I didn’t say anything to Grant the first 4 times, but it’s time to solve the problem
-----Original Message-----
From: Szablya, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Cline, Ryan
Subject: RE: Tardiness
Would you say it was the two weeks before I went on vacation that I was late on the Thursdays and Fridays? And then one other day in there somewhere? I don't keep track of this sort of thing, I seem to recall being significantly late on one of the days, but if memory serves that was a freak large traffic accident that really screwed traffic up. Just trying to pinpoint what happened.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cline, Ryan
Sent: Wed 9/7/2005 2:33 PM
To: Szablya, Steve
Cc:
Subject: RE: Tardiness
I just know yesterday was the fifth time in a month.
-----Original Message-----
From: Szablya, Steve
Sent: Wed 9/7/2005 4:43 PM
To: Cline, Ryan
Cc:
Subject: RE: Tardiness
Other than what you described as two consecutive thursday-fridays, you aren't sure what dates I was late, or by how much? I know we've been over this in prior disciplinary functions, but any help I can get is definetly appreciated, because I actually do intend on never letting it happen again.
Sorry for all the questions, but the more I think about it, the more I feel surprised by this action, and that makes me concerned. In the past that I felt scared; I knew I was going to be disciplined. Whereas this time, it was very unexpected. I had considered my recent performance in the office to be better than average, which furthers the confusion for me.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cline, Ryan
Sent: Wed 9/7/2005 7:22 PM
To: Szablya, Steve
Cc:
Subject: RE: Tardiness
Just be at work at 8am. When you are not in the office at at 8am, you can expect a trip to Grant's office. I told him at 8:10 yesterday that you were late, and this afternoon was the first time he had available to speak to you. i won't be speaking to you on my own about this anymore. i will be letting him know what time you show up and that's it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Szablya, Steve
Sent: Thu 9/8/2005 8:04 AM
To: Cline, Ryan
Cc:
Subject: RE: Tardiness
Alrighty then.
From: Szablya, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:22 PM
To: Cline, Ryan
Subject: Tardiness
Hey,
Just wondering if you have some kind of data on my tardiness frequency, because I was under the impression that even though I call you on a regular basis, anticipating my tardiness, I most often manage to get in by 8AM. Seems to me that it's only been recently (over the last two weeks) that I've had a problem with being a few minutes late. I know I'm probably way off, but if you have any data, it'd help me figure out what is going on so I can best correct it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cline, Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:26 PM
To: Szablya, Steve
Subject: RE: Tardiness
5 times in 3 weeks (4 weeks if you count the week you were off). I didn’t say anything to Grant the first 4 times, but it’s time to solve the problem
-----Original Message-----
From: Szablya, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Cline, Ryan
Subject: RE: Tardiness
Would you say it was the two weeks before I went on vacation that I was late on the Thursdays and Fridays? And then one other day in there somewhere? I don't keep track of this sort of thing, I seem to recall being significantly late on one of the days, but if memory serves that was a freak large traffic accident that really screwed traffic up. Just trying to pinpoint what happened.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cline, Ryan
Sent: Wed 9/7/2005 2:33 PM
To: Szablya, Steve
Cc:
Subject: RE: Tardiness
I just know yesterday was the fifth time in a month.
-----Original Message-----
From: Szablya, Steve
Sent: Wed 9/7/2005 4:43 PM
To: Cline, Ryan
Cc:
Subject: RE: Tardiness
Other than what you described as two consecutive thursday-fridays, you aren't sure what dates I was late, or by how much? I know we've been over this in prior disciplinary functions, but any help I can get is definetly appreciated, because I actually do intend on never letting it happen again.
Sorry for all the questions, but the more I think about it, the more I feel surprised by this action, and that makes me concerned. In the past that I felt scared; I knew I was going to be disciplined. Whereas this time, it was very unexpected. I had considered my recent performance in the office to be better than average, which furthers the confusion for me.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cline, Ryan
Sent: Wed 9/7/2005 7:22 PM
To: Szablya, Steve
Cc:
Subject: RE: Tardiness
Just be at work at 8am. When you are not in the office at at 8am, you can expect a trip to Grant's office. I told him at 8:10 yesterday that you were late, and this afternoon was the first time he had available to speak to you. i won't be speaking to you on my own about this anymore. i will be letting him know what time you show up and that's it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Szablya, Steve
Sent: Thu 9/8/2005 8:04 AM
To: Cline, Ryan
Cc:
Subject: RE: Tardiness
Alrighty then.
I love how I can be arbitrarily put on probation because someone thinks I was late at some time on some consecutive days over the last month.. Which, aside from Monday, I'd have to argue with.
I knew there was a reason I'd never become management - I actually think managing people requires personal skills and a helpful attitude. Anytime I ask my supervisor any question, I feel like I'm gonna get fired. WTF.
09-08-2005, 09:41 AM
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**** that, if it were me I would go this grant guy and defend your position, where is it documented. Is there a time clock? It's pretty hard to say you're late all the time if it's just one guy who come's back and checks your desk, wut if you are taking a leak, getting coffee.
09-08-2005, 09:51 AM
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ROFL!
Yeah, we don't have time clocks. Grant is the manager, over Ryan, who is the supervisor. It's basically Ryan's job to snitch on us.
I was told over and over that I needed to be here around 8AM, and a few minutes was no big deal. So here I am, going along thinking I'm doing great, not even thinking about if I've been late because it's always right at or within a few minutes of 8AM, if not earlier. Then yesterday I get this call from Grant and he wants me in his office. I thought I was going to be praised for completing my cross-training and becoming the only person in the group trained on all the systems and on two other seperate jobs. Turns out I was getting written up for something I didn't even think about!
It's ok though.. it's not like it's a huge deal at this point. And the warning only sits in my personnel record for 6 months.
Yeah, we don't have time clocks. Grant is the manager, over Ryan, who is the supervisor. It's basically Ryan's job to snitch on us.
I was told over and over that I needed to be here around 8AM, and a few minutes was no big deal. So here I am, going along thinking I'm doing great, not even thinking about if I've been late because it's always right at or within a few minutes of 8AM, if not earlier. Then yesterday I get this call from Grant and he wants me in his office. I thought I was going to be praised for completing my cross-training and becoming the only person in the group trained on all the systems and on two other seperate jobs. Turns out I was getting written up for something I didn't even think about!
It's ok though.. it's not like it's a huge deal at this point. And the warning only sits in my personnel record for 6 months.
09-08-2005, 10:05 AM
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Maybe you should snitch on Ryan and return the favor. I remember taking a statistic class in university and the most successful methodology has always been, eye for an eye, ear for an ear.
Backstabbers have no place in teh office. A successful business depends on its key resources which is always the employees. Lack of team work and team philosophy is what usually kills a department.
Backstabbers have no place in teh office. A successful business depends on its key resources which is always the employees. Lack of team work and team philosophy is what usually kills a department.
09-08-2005, 10:13 AM
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Wow, I wish printing worked like that..if I'm late I get to see like 3 ppl.......and it goes on my record for a year...then again it's a labor job not office job, so I guess the rules are different. ANyone wanna trade a labor job for a desk job!?
Sean
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09-08-2005, 10:35 AM
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I had to come into work before everyone else when i starte being late, but now i just sit around till like 10 mins after just to make up for me coming late. it shouldnt matter what time you go at, if your a couple mins late you should just be able to make it up.