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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 07:51 AM
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That first bar with JDM-spec-tig looks like junk. And NO ONE uses aluminum for any type of structural construction and/or reinforcement.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jerseybrandon' date='Oct 30 2003, 01:51 PM
That first bar with JDM-spec-tig looks like junk. And NO ONE uses aluminum for any type of structural construction and/or reinforcement.
Audi, as well as other manufacturers, makes cars with aluminum frames.



Mazda, Honda and Nissan, as well as many other manufacturers, makes cars with aluminum A-arms.



Triton, as well as many other trailer manufacturers, makes aluminum boat trailers that hold 12,000 lbs. boats.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazderati' date='Oct 31 2003, 01:32 PM
Audi, as well as other manufacturers, makes cars with aluminum frames.



Mazda, Honda and Nissan, as well as many other manufacturers, makes cars with aluminum A-arms.



Triton, as well as many other trailer manufacturers, makes aluminum boat trailers that hold 12,000 lbs. boats.
yea but those are all made structurally strong by the geometrical shape used in the development and formation of each of those parts.



they use triangulation and distinct angles to create a rigidly strong structure.



a straight bar has no triangulation, except at the strut tower bar mounting location, which on that ebay bar still features NO triangulation or other geometrical work to create a rigid structure.



but i guess you thought you had him with that didnt you?



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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by teknics' date='Oct 31 2003, 07:03 PM
[quote name='Mazderati' date='Oct 31 2003, 01:32 PM'] Audi, as well as other manufacturers, makes cars with aluminum frames.



Mazda, Honda and Nissan, as well as many other manufacturers, makes cars with aluminum A-arms.



Triton, as well as many other trailer manufacturers, makes aluminum boat trailers that hold 12,000 lbs. boats.
yea but those are all made structurally strong by the geometrical shape used in the development and formation of each of those parts.



they use triangulation and distinct angles to create a rigidly strong structure.



a straight bar has no triangulation, except at the strut tower bar mounting location, which on that ebay bar still features NO triangulation or other geometrical work to create a rigid structure.



but i guess you thought you had him with that didnt you?



kevin.[/quote]



Must have missed this one.



Originally Posted by Mazderati' date='Oct 30 2003, 02:46 AM
That makes the design "less than optimal," not the material.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazderati' date='Oct 31 2003, 05:09 PM
[quote name='teknics' date='Oct 31 2003, 07:03 PM'][quote name='Mazderati' date='Oct 31 2003, 01:32 PM'] Audi, as well as other manufacturers, makes cars with aluminum frames.



Mazda, Honda and Nissan, as well as many other manufacturers, makes cars with aluminum A-arms.



Triton, as well as many other trailer manufacturers, makes aluminum boat trailers that hold 12,000 lbs. boats.
yea but those are all made structurally strong by the geometrical shape used in the development and formation of each of those parts.



they use triangulation and distinct angles to create a rigidly strong structure.



a straight bar has no triangulation, except at the strut tower bar mounting location, which on that ebay bar still features NO triangulation or other geometrical work to create a rigid structure.



but i guess you thought you had him with that didnt you?



kevin.[/quote]



Must have missed this one.



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actually that saying is useless.



thats like saying "i could use rope as a strut bar as long as its structured right"



which is incorrect.



Aluminum is used because it is lightweight, not because of it's strength. The only thing that MAKES aluminum strong IS it's structural design and use.



SO your statement is incorrect.



opps thought you had me again huh?



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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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you probably could use rope, in composite form with some epoxy resin to hold it all together.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Oct 31 2003, 11:03 PM
you probably could use rope, in composite form with some epoxy resin to hold it all together.








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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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Think what you will.



An Organization that Knows Absolutely Nothing About Aluminum
Old Nov 2, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jerseybrandon' date='Oct 30 2003, 09:51 PM
That first bar with JDM-spec-tig looks like junk. And NO ONE uses aluminum for any type of structural construction and/or reinforcement.
I'd better forward this to my mate at Boeing. They've bin getting it all wrong!
Old Nov 3, 2003 | 01:20 AM
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The lazy B.



Land Rover North America’s product communications manager, John Burgess, told the Detroit News, "Aluminum seems to be one of the clear choices not only for weight issues, but also for corrosion and safety issues."


Hydroformed steel is what Land Rover currently uses in their frames. Get one little tweak in the frame from a minor fender-bender, and it's all over. You've gotta get a new frame. I know the '83 and later FB had staked-in universal joints (gotta get a new driveshaft), but this is redidculous.



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