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SoRRoW 07-20-2002 06:49 PM

I need win2k server...or is XP better?Give me advice and can some one help me out with a copy? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Rotarydragon 07-20-2002 07:37 PM

If you need a server Win2K is it for the time being, Windows.NET is still in Beta 2 last I checked.

DaddyMac 07-20-2002 07:48 PM

sorry, I have no idea :(

Skreeching Vomit 07-21-2002 01:25 AM

Win XP home (32 bit) Win XP Pro (64 bit) is windows NT, Win2000 is based

on Windows NT also..all of them , you can use the NTFS format ---ie,,--NT

I use XP home and it works great,,but then again i'm a pentium 4, 1.7 gig

with 256mb of DDR ram.a bus speed of 266 mhz,40 gig WD 7200rpm HD

etc,etc..i like XP,,over ME and win2000

SoRRoW 07-21-2002 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Skreeching Vomit' date='Jul 21 2002, 02:25 AM
Win XP home (32 bit) Win XP Pro (64 bit) is windows NT, Win2000 is based

on Windows NT also..all of them , you can use the NTFS format ---ie,,--NT

I use XP home and it works great,,but then again i'm a pentium 4, 1.7 gig

with 256mb of DDR ram.a bus speed of 266 mhz,40 gig WD 7200rpm HD

etc,etc..i like XP,,over ME and win2000

Yeah what do you think of XP pro compared to Win2k?

Im gonan use it for a online game server (UO) untill I get a large player base..then pay for a dedicated server...

SoRRoW 07-21-2002 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Rotarydragon' date='Jul 20 2002, 08:37 PM
If you need a server Win2K is it for the time being, Windows.NET is still in Beta 2 last I checked.

Yeah Win2k is what I want for a server...BUT someone told me XP pro is better..and newer..and he will send it to me ..BUT not sure if this is what I really want..but hey for free...its all good...



But will I really need win2k?

horn4858 07-21-2002 07:56 AM

i run xp pro and like it 2000 is good but xp is better esp. if its free. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/mellow.png

Rotarydragon 07-21-2002 09:25 AM

XP Pro is NOT 64 bit unless you're running an Itanium processor.



To run a dedicated UO server? Dunno hard question, Pro would probably do OK. Pro is throttled as far as network bandwidth goes but that shouldn't be an issue till later



The last UO server I was toying with was a mem hog.

SoRRoW 07-21-2002 11:25 AM

A friend told me Win XP takes alot of ram..and yes Im gonan run a UO shard just till i get about 30 people online @ all times..or till I cant hold no more..then I will get a dedicated server..



The emulator is made by Sphere...

Rotarydragon 07-21-2002 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Jul 21 2002, 07:25 PM
A friend told me Win XP takes alot of ram..and yes Im gonan run a UO shard just till i get about 30 people online @ all times..or till I cant hold no more..then I will get a dedicated server..



The emulator is made by Sphere...



Not familiar with that one but I've not toyed with any of them for a long long long time.



Still play UO once in a blue moon tho.

dac 07-21-2002 12:30 PM

The main difference between XP Home and XP Professional is Pro supports domains and Home does not. 2000 Server is a PIG, It's slow, a memory hog and NOT one of microsofts better products. 2000 workstation however is a great OS.



XP Home or Pro are not server products. So depending on what you are looking to do would depend on what OS to use.



XP is a nice product, but you may need to upgrade older software to run on it. It is snappy and boots quickly.

RX7 in DAGO 07-21-2002 01:10 PM

Make sure your machine is able to run XP,,at least a pentium 4, other wise

XP,,or other large OS's will be slugish

SoRRoW 07-21-2002 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by RX7 in DAGO' date='Jul 21 2002, 02:10 PM
Make sure your machine is able to run XP,,at least a pentium 4, other wise

XP,,or other large OS's will be slugish

****..I have a pen III

SoniX 07-21-2002 04:34 PM

I don't know, I was running XP Pro on a P3 500, and it was running fine, but then again, that was as a desktop, not a server, but my question is, if you are using the computer as a server, why not run linux? it tends to be smaller, is much much more stable, faster, and uses less memory, plus, you can join the club of linux users, and lovers, mmm, I need to get a stuffed tux, anyone know where I can get one, other than thinkgeek.com? the one there is ugly.

Rotarydragon 07-21-2002 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by dac' date='Jul 21 2002, 08:30 PM
The main difference between XP Home and XP Professional is Pro supports domains and Home does not. 2000 Server is a PIG, It's slow, a memory hog and NOT one of microsofts better products. 2000 workstation however is a great OS.



XP Home or Pro are not server products. So depending on what you are looking to do would depend on what OS to use.



XP is a nice product, but you may need to upgrade older software to run on it. It is snappy and boots quickly.



2K uses less memory than XP



It's faster then NT in 99% of the cases.

Rotarydragon 07-21-2002 07:24 PM

P III 500 will run XP just fine. It'll run decent on a Celeron 366 with 128mb of ram.

dac 07-21-2002 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Rotarydragon' date='Jul 22 2002, 01:23 AM
[quote name='dac' date='Jul 21 2002, 08:30 PM']The main difference between XP Home and XP Professional is Pro supports domains and Home does not. 2000 Server is a PIG, It's slow, a memory hog and NOT one of microsofts better products. 2000 workstation however is a great OS.



XP Home or Pro are not server products. So depending on what you are looking to do would depend on what OS to use.



XP is a nice product, but you may need to upgrade older software to run on it. It is snappy and boots quickly.



2K uses less memory than XP



It's faster then NT in 99% of the cases.[/quote]

2K workstation maybe... but 2K server? No way..



2K Server is a DOG on my Dual 450 Server at home and a barely adequate on our dual 800 PIII at work.



XP Pro flys on my 700 Celeron



I prefer NT 4.0 for a server. It's faster by far, Althought does had a couple of downfalls (not FAT32 support or USB) which is why I run 2K at home (Damn USB Scanner).

Rotarydragon 07-21-2002 08:42 PM

[quote=dac' date='Jul 22 2002, 03:52 AM]


2K workstation maybe... but 2K server? No way..



2K Server is a DOG on my Dual 450 Server at home and a barely adequate on our dual 800 PIII at work.



XP Pro flys on my 700 Celeron



I prefer NT 4.0 for a server. It's faster by far, Althought does had a couple of downfalls (not FAT32 support or USB) which is why I run 2K at home (Damn USB Scanner).
Then honestly you've got something seriously amiss at work and at home. 2k Server runs just fine a 450mhz P II's if you give it enough ram depending on it's workload. 2k scales much much better.

SoniX 07-22-2002 01:35 AM

yeah, 2k has pretty good scaling, I have seen it run very well on a 486 with 64 megs of crap ram, someone made a bet that he couldn't do it, incidently, it installed, and ran with no problems at all. I have switched to XP Pro for my desktop because of the hardware support, and the support for multithreading my Dual cpus, plus, it is just prettier than 2k.

SoRRoW 07-22-2002 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by SoniX' date='Jul 21 2002, 05:34 PM
I don't know, I was running XP Pro on a P3 500, and it was running fine, but then again, that was as a desktop, not a server, but my question is, if you are using the computer as a server, why not run linux? it tends to be smaller, is much much more stable, faster, and uses less memory, plus, you can join the club of linux users, and lovers, mmm, I need to get a stuffed tux, anyone know where I can get one, other than thinkgeek.com? the one there is ugly.

Ok I will post my comp specs..

HP Pen III 600 mgz

256 meg ram



10 gig hard drive<<<<<if any of you have an extra one working..I will buy I dont want to spend full price on a hard drive..next step is building/buying a new one.<<

CD burner



I have up graded alot on this comp..BUT I do need to do the hard drive..

This will be on a desktop (used) for a game server untill I get a good enuff player base to dish out for a dedicated server..



Alot of people who run UO servers use WIN2K so I was just seeing why..

Also I dont want to go out and buy WIN2K I was seeing If anyone can burn me one..Im getting XP pro for free..and will try it out..



I heard they both take up alot of ram..and this is one of my main concerns..

BUT im maxed out @ 256..and cant do anymore..and dont need something raping me of my ram..


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