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Judge Ito 02-06-2004 07:14 PM

I spent most of the day making a seriously nice agressive streetport template. This template will produce some nice horsepower and not effect the reliability of the engine. The intake port opening is way earlier then the stock port and the closing timing is considerably larger then the stock port closing. If enough intrest is generated I'll have them made and I'll sell them with the intake port opening in degrees and port closing in degrees just so customers have a reference in degrees to go by when they use this template to port and dyno.



Members could post here their intrest or pm me.. I decided to do this only because I have had some members ask me over and over again. But most of the time is the same member asking all over again about porting templates.



How much intrest is there??????



thank you for your cooperation.

Judge Ito 02-06-2004 07:16 PM

I'll add this template is larger then Racing Beat template and most of the templates I've seen out there.

teknics 02-06-2004 07:19 PM

im down for it.



on a scale of 1-10, with 1 being RB template and 10 being voskos port, what size is this template?



kevin.

Judge Ito 02-06-2004 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Feb 7 2004, 01:19 AM
im down for it.



on a scale of 1-10, with 1 being RB template and 10 being voskos port, what size is this template?



kevin.

If you want to rate the template I would say it's very similar to Voskos ports.

rmaiersg 02-06-2004 07:45 PM

How would this port stand up to emissions?

amp 02-06-2004 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Judge Ito' date='Feb 6 2004, 08:14 PM
...I have had some members ask me ...

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png

count me in..

teknics 02-06-2004 08:35 PM

ito, im down.



kevin.

rotary speedster 02-06-2004 08:44 PM

I'd be intrested.

TheCamel 02-06-2004 08:53 PM

I'm down as well Ito

Mazderati 02-06-2004 09:14 PM

What series engines could the template be applied to? I would assume there would have to be different templates for not only the six port vs. four port motors but for the different years of the 13B as well, not to mention the 12A?

turbovr6 02-06-2004 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by Judge Ito' date='Feb 6 2004, 08:31 PM
If you want to rate the template I would say it's very similar to Voskos ports.

sounds like my ports https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

Jeff20B 02-06-2004 09:40 PM

How does your template compare to stock 20B secondary ports? How about primaries? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

g_dripht-alex 02-06-2004 10:28 PM

just wondering how much you would charge for the template as well?

rfreeman27 02-06-2004 11:00 PM

I'm in!

DomLee 02-06-2004 11:09 PM

I would be interested. I've been thinking about picking up the Racing Beat porting template(s), but if you make a template w/ various reference points as you mentioned,...I would definitely be purchasing from you, Judge Ito.

DomLee 02-06-2004 11:18 PM

BTW, I was thinking about something along the lines of the various "engineering type blueprints" that I've seen. These blueprints show the position of the rotor in the housing, the intake charge, etc. In fact, a picture of what I'm talking about may be in the RX-7 hardcover book by Yamaguchi. (I hope you know what I'm talking about).

Racer X 02-07-2004 02:48 AM

Do you have to advance or retard the timing at all?How bad is the MPG going to be affected.VERY interested.I see a next winter project already. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Judge Ito 02-07-2004 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by Mazderati' date='Feb 7 2004, 03:14 AM
What series engines could the template be applied to? I would assume there would have to be different templates for not only the six port vs. four port motors but for the different years of the 13B as well, not to mention the 12A?

Could be applied to, 86-91 turbo II engines. 92-99 FD engines. Cosmo 13B and cosmo 20B engines.

Judge Ito 02-07-2004 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff20B' date='Feb 7 2004, 03:40 AM
How does your template compare to stock 20B secondary ports? How about primaries? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Yes they would work on a 20B. For the primaries you could still use the template. Just don't port down. Use the template to port the primaries for the opening timing and the closing timing.

Judge Ito 02-07-2004 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff20B' date='Feb 7 2004, 03:40 AM
How does your template compare to stock 20B secondary ports? How about primaries? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

You just made me think really hard. I could make one template to host the port shape for the secondaries and in that same template I could host the same port opening and closing for the primaries but smaller towards the lower part of the factory port. Basically one template to accommodate both different styles of primary and secondary ports but with the same intake opening and closing of the ports all around.

Judge Ito 02-07-2004 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by g_dripht-alex' date='Feb 7 2004, 04:28 AM
just wondering how much you would charge for the template as well?

I would say about $45.oo

Judge Ito 02-07-2004 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by DomLee' date='Feb 7 2004, 05:18 AM
BTW, I was thinking about something along the lines of the various "engineering type blueprints" that I've seen. These blueprints show the position of the rotor in the housing, the intake charge, etc. In fact, a picture of what I'm talking about may be in the RX-7 hardcover book by Yamaguchi. (I hope you know what I'm talking about).

Yes they would be sold with the specific degrees of that style of template. I would add a reliability tip inside the package for people that are starting to port.

Judge Ito 02-07-2004 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by rmaiersg' date='Feb 7 2004, 01:45 AM
How would this port stand up to emissions?

Emissions will be affected since theres a bit more overlap, but there is not a considerable amount of overlap. It's not a wild streetport that has a decent amount of overlap.

Judge Ito 02-07-2004 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Feb 7 2004, 08:48 AM
Do you have to advance or retard the timing at all?How bad is the MPG going to be affected.VERY interested.I see a next winter project already. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Ignition timing needs to be on the safe side under high boost and low octane on any style of porting. To stabilize the idle you could run stock timing maps at idle.(-20 for trailing and -5 for leading) Gas milage????? Rotary engine and gas milage do not walk hand and hand https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Mazderati 02-07-2004 08:57 AM

Sounds pretty good.

TheCamel 02-07-2004 09:03 AM

Ito, if I may make a suggestion, setup a pre-buy similar to what Phins did with the sweatshirt sales. That way you truly see the intrest in your product, as the saying goes, money talks, bullshit walks, and you do not have to worry about the cash. With your reputation on here I have no fear in sending you the $45 and waiting for them to be made, I do not need them right away, but I defineatly would like them. If you want to try this, post up a paypal address, or If you want I can call the shop and do a credit card order over the phone, either way I am very intrested (as I have suggested to you in some of your porting threads) Let us know, I am ready to go now as are some of the others around here https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

4RotorRocket 02-07-2004 09:32 AM

I may be intrested

g_dripht-alex 02-07-2004 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Judge Ito' date='Feb 7 2004, 04:22 AM
I would say about $45.oo

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif i have no clue what the banana means but ill take one.

Cheers! 02-07-2004 01:35 PM

if i used this on with the factory turbo charger, it won't really be worth it irgth

Jeff20B 02-07-2004 01:56 PM

I made myself a paper template for '85 and older streetports. It has two porting styles on it (mild and extended). It's held steady on the side plate with dowel pins. All you do is flip it around for one port shape, or the other.



Is this what you you're talking about in regard to the two different port shapes on the 20B? You know, to flip it around for one or the other?

FourtyOunce 02-07-2004 02:03 PM

im down ...

teknics 02-07-2004 04:14 PM

ito id go down to the shop and buy it, cash money homes.



kevin.

SoniX 02-07-2004 04:45 PM

Ito: I don't suppose you would happen to still have the template for the 6 port job you did a while ago, I remember you talking about it, being able to keep the 5th and 6th ports, but adding a decent amount of power, I am curious, since I have to rebuild anyway, I may be wanting some of those templates, if I ever get out of iraq that is. (one more month, then it is back to kuwait, the long road home)

thafox 02-07-2004 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by SoniX' date='Feb 7 2004, 02:45 PM
Ito: I don't suppose you would happen to still have the template for the 6 port job you did a while ago, I remember you talking about it, being able to keep the 5th and 6th ports, but adding a decent amount of power, I am curious, since I have to rebuild anyway, I may be wanting some of those templates, if I ever get out of iraq that is. (one more month, then it is back to kuwait, the long road home)

yea i'd definatly buy a 6-port bp template also https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

ALNY93R1 02-07-2004 04:54 PM

I'm in.....

rx-7Drifter 02-07-2004 07:07 PM

im in ill take one. for 45 thats a good deal. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif

Judge Ito 02-08-2004 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by TheCamel' date='Feb 7 2004, 03:03 PM
Ito, if I may make a suggestion, setup a pre-buy similar to what Phins did with the sweatshirt sales. That way you truly see the intrest in your product, as the saying goes, money talks, bullshit walks, and you do not have to worry about the cash. With your reputation on here I have no fear in sending you the $45 and waiting for them to be made, I do not need them right away, but I defineatly would like them. If you want to try this, post up a paypal address, or If you want I can call the shop and do a credit card order over the phone, either way I am very intrested (as I have suggested to you in some of your porting threads) Let us know, I am ready to go now as are some of the others around here https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

How would I set up a pre-buy? Should I pm phins?

Judge Ito 02-08-2004 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by SoniX' date='Feb 7 2004, 10:45 PM
Ito: I don't suppose you would happen to still have the template for the 6 port job you did a while ago, I remember you talking about it, being able to keep the 5th and 6th ports, but adding a decent amount of power, I am curious, since I have to rebuild anyway, I may be wanting some of those templates, if I ever get out of iraq that is. (one more month, then it is back to kuwait, the long road home)

If this template sells well. I'll produce my 6 port bridgeport template.

TheCamel 02-08-2004 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Ito' date='Feb 8 2004, 07:24 AM
How would I set up a pre-buy? Should I pm phins?

Selling them through the no-pistons store takes away all the shipping and purchasing problems away from you Ito, all you would have to do is produce enough to match the pre-order and ship them to Phins for distrobution. I have had awesome workings with the nopistons store, and I would buy from Phins again and again, my stuff has arrived as promised each time I have ordered, no bullshit, even when I was in Japan and shipping to my fathers house, everything arrived as promised. Basically it would work like this (After getting approval from Phins of course https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR) Phins sets up the thread for a pre-order, people pay Phins through the no-pistons store for the order, Phins sets a deadline for all orders to be in, with an approximate shipping date. As I glance through the thread I see about 10 people intrested already. These numbers are sure to fluctuate but 10 is a good number to start with. Now if that is all you would like to make at this point, you tell Phins that the order will be ready by a certain date and begin productions. When the completion date hits, you will have the templates ready for sale, all you have to do is box them up and send them to Phins for distrobution https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png Phins has all the money already from the guys paying through the store and the only thing you have to do is accept the mass payment from Phins https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

teknics 02-08-2004 11:27 AM

ito im still down to just drive to your shop and buy one, it would be 100x easier for me to drive 15 seconds then to order from anywhere else lol.



kevin.


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