phinsup

You ever notice people gladly leave their guns behind without a seconds thought when they say, go to a storm shelter for food and shelter? Now why would a gov't go door to door to take guns away when it's a complete waste of time?

defprun

You've been watching NCIS. Ducky ftw!



I never did completely find out what white elephant meant.

TYSON

Honestly no, I have never been to a storm shelter. But I believe you mean New Orleans right?

phinsup

I didnt ask if you had been to one, but I guess it was a rhetorical. I was not referring to nawlins, although it would prove my point as well. Although, US soldiers armed with M4's all over town would prolly detract from my original theme. I was referring to, well most recently Michigan during the floods, they evacuated everyone so that was no voluntary, bad example . Ok right here in florida, right here in the town I am sitting in during Frances, Jean, Wilma people VOLUNTARILY left their home to go to a county shelter, they were not allowed to bring pets, guns anything really, no personal possessions they dont have room for them. People go, by the thousands, they show up, they get fed, they get a cot. Now imagine an america where Monsanto has choked our food supply (this is very easy if you know anything about the american food supply) americans are broke, starving and in need of food, no means to provide for themselves, the grocery stores are empty and on the TV comes a FEMA guy, he says "Have No fear Americans, we have plenty of food however we do not have the means to distribute it to every town in america, we will send a bus, board the bus and we will take you to a camp with food, shelter, heat" Good deal right? Now yer unarmed, but yer fed, yer warm and who cares what direction the barbwire points.

TYSON

I thought they did go around rounding up guns in New Orleans?



oh wait, they did;



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/national...8cnd-storm.html

phinsup

First off, my point was not that any of the events were in an effort to get you away from your guns and take them, but rather that it is quite possible to get people to willingly leave them behind. My point was not that these were efforts by the feds to grab guns, that wasn't the case at all, but that the feds have proven it's quite easy to get people away from their homes and weapons by their own free will. A hurricane is not nationwide event, nor is it predictible enough, but the food supply is BOTH.



new orleans tought the feds a lot.

TYSON

My point was that a Republican government seized peoples legally owned guns, contrary to the long windy post above ours.

phinsup

People who buy into the myth that republicans and democrats are different in some way make me giggle.



The things they claim that separate the two NEVER change.

The reps had full control did they abolish abortion? No Did they try? No



Did they outlaw gay marriage? No



Did they shrink Gov't? No



The very things they use to define their differences NEVER CHANGE.



Dems and reps share one very important common interest and that is that they willingly and knowingly act in total disregard to the wishes of their constituents. In short when it comes to ******* the american people they've got something to Hi-five and to have a snort of coke off a hookers stomach about.



Criminals deny breaking the law, con men say whatever necessary to get you to believe them.

phinsup

What if tomorrow the things you do today become illegal, what if gun ownership is breaking the law, drinking alcohol, growing your own garden. What if in the law's eyes you become "the really bad guy" will you still want the constitution ignored? Or will it be ok for them to kick your door in and take your gold because it is now illegal and YOU have become the really bad guy will you be glad the supreme court takes into account "really bad guys aren't entitled to protection under the Bill Of Rights"? Like you said, never say it will never happen................

phinsup

I don't want this gal deciding if I'm a bad enough guy to possibly have a later to be found expired warrant potentially not on file, but I am positive I want this highly trained law enforement person leading the charge into my home!