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JT-Imports 08-30-2003 10:04 PM

Im not trying to spread rumors, but I just saw this info in a magazine we have here, kind of like "CAR AND DRIVER" in the US.



It says 2005 RX7 will be a 3 rotor. Also though last time they put out an article on the RX8 it was coming out in OCT or something like that of 2002, but they were a little off.



Hummm could it be true? It says 320HP, and Also if anyone cars they were setting up for a 2005 release of a GTR also.



I dont have the pics, but the New Rx7 as they call it, it looks just like the RX8 minus the rear doors.



3-rotor hummmm Cool, but hummmmm I dont think so. Toyota is always TOP in the Japanese market since they make the most cars, next nissan, next Mazda, but I wonder if Mazda is trying some crazy shite to pull to the top. I mean they dont offer a wide varity on engine specs when you order a car. Not saying its bad or anything, but when I was going to buy a Celica for the wife, I had like 4 different ones to choose from, and Im not talking body/color and stuff like that, Im talking Engine BS. So I wonder if Mazda is trying to do something like this........



Anyway, just throwing some info, and some thoughts. I dont know if this will get moved or not, since I didnt know where else to put it. There is no FUTURE car section https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



JT

Fd3BOOST 08-30-2003 10:06 PM

3 rotor would be good, but i hope that it doesn't look like the RX8 tank.

vosko 08-30-2003 10:18 PM

i'd buy one......... if i get a new car right now it would be a 350z after seeing them up close and personal goddamn !

Srce 08-30-2003 10:19 PM

Me like JapMag info...

FrestyleFC3S 08-30-2003 10:22 PM

fuckass .... jason.... scan!

mazdadrifter 08-30-2003 11:08 PM

I've hear they were increasing the size of the two rotor, now this. I think I'd like to see the 3 rotor come back instead, that way we can keep using all the 13b stuff, and just upgrade to the newest. I need to make someone wreck one tho, so i can do my 3 rotor swap.

RX7Aggie 08-30-2003 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by JT-Imports' date='Aug 30 2003, 09:04 PM
It says 320HP

sooo, considering mazda's engineering math, that should be about 250 hp at the wheels https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

teknics 08-30-2003 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Aug 30 2003, 10:22 PM
fuckass .... jason.... scan!

yes so you can do what exactly? point at the funny characters?



kevin.

FikseRxSeven 08-30-2003 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Aug 30 2003, 07:18 PM
i'd buy one......... if i get a new car right now it would be a 350z after seeing them up close and personal goddamn !

the white...... or the innocent blue wanna be looks nice

JT-Imports 08-30-2003 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Aug 30 2003, 08:14 PM
yes so you can do what exactly? point at the funny characters?



kevin.

haha



The only reason I didnt get it and scan it, is because the picture is across 2 pages, so it would come out kind of FRUCKED up. I will talk to my mazda guy and see if he can get access to some pics, since I have to go pick up a bunch of parts monday



JT

vosko 08-30-2003 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by RX7Aggie' date='Aug 31 2003, 12:13 AM
sooo, considering mazda's engineering math, that should be about 250 hp at the wheels https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

nah more like 200-220 lol

vosko 08-30-2003 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by FikseRxSeven' date='Aug 31 2003, 12:20 AM
the white...... or the innocent blue wanna be looks nice

black for me of course. now i just need to test drive one https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Srce 08-30-2003 11:45 PM

Silver here....

Jims5543 08-31-2003 12:00 AM

I hope this really happens. I keep getting called names for predicting **** and when it comes true the name callers all but disapear. I was called names when I said that the low HP on the 8 was real and would be a big problem. I also said that if Mazda would just let its balls drop a 3 rotor is the way to go. SWEET!!!!!



Fingers are crossed.

rx7machine 08-31-2003 12:27 AM

That is badass. But... how much is it going to cost?

Srce 08-31-2003 12:37 AM

If Mazda is smart and handles this car with more R&D than the 8, then they'll give us what we want. A new 7 with a 20B N/A Renesis kicking out about 350 to the fly. All of course for under 35K for a 6 Speed H-Pattern Box with a curb weight of under 3K LBS.

1Revvin7 08-31-2003 12:39 AM

That would be nice, I know I'd be down...

DRFT 08-31-2003 09:08 AM

I’ve seen an article like it... in a Japanese magazine shop in north jersey...

I had the sales guy translate some of the article to me...the article said that everyone is spreading many rumors about the new rx7 and people are over crediting what Mazda can and will do for the future model...the article also said the next gen. rx7 must have more power and better transition for Mazda to survive in sales because they are in debt to banks for their loans...





I think Mazda will do something special but it’s so unpredictable…because there are many things they can do…and many thing people want them to do…

banzaitoyota 08-31-2003 10:59 AM

The new advertising will read like a ad for a new Mobile Home:

Free $500 Debit card with every purchase!

94touring 08-31-2003 11:22 AM

The next rotary car must have at least larger housings/rotors or a 3 rotor in it. I hope this is a good sign.

mazdadrifter 08-31-2003 12:55 PM

ya hopefully this little embarassment with the 8 will be motivation enough to know that they can't bullshit us into submission, the rx7 has to put out, or don't make the thing at all

Jeff20B 08-31-2003 01:01 PM

Agreed. I saw my first RX-8 yesterday. It was the silver color. One of the first things that popped into my head was the HP fiasco.



Mazda truely needs to build a three rotor Renesis based on the 20B like they did with the 13B. Make it NA to save weight and it'll just weigh a little over the 13B (whatever it is for the extra parts which isn't all that much to be honest). Mazda needs to stop jerking us around.

rx7machine 08-31-2003 01:11 PM

I'm with the 3 rotor idea, but I'd feel so lost with boost.. it's gotta be turbocharged. And what they're probably end up doing is just making the Renesis rotors a little bigger and try to mess around with the intake a little more and call it that. But if they turbocharge it I think they'll be getting close to 320hp.

Eric Happy Meal 08-31-2003 01:30 PM

maybe they should change it to have pop-ups?

mazdadrifter 08-31-2003 02:32 PM

how about a supercharged 3 rotor?? It wouldn't restrict the exhaust area, which on the 8 seems to be very cramped, and with such a short block there's room for one to fit up top. Maybe introduce a difference oil injection system, that uses a seperate 2 stroke oil reseravior.



Hell why don't they let us design the damn thing. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

walken 08-31-2003 02:46 PM

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old pic I found

Streetrally 08-31-2003 02:48 PM

Returning to the hatch back roots... i Kinda like it.

Eric Happy Meal 08-31-2003 03:03 PM

looks goofy.

Streetrally 08-31-2003 03:15 PM

That's because it has no door handle.

teknics 08-31-2003 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Streetrally' date='Aug 31 2003, 03:15 PM
That's because it has no door handle.

door handle is right behind window/glass where the 3rd gens handle was.



kevin.

RX7Aggie 08-31-2003 05:08 PM

i saw a couple of rx-8's last night here in college station, one pewter and one red. dang, those look good, so mean looking.



i saw the first drive by on university next to Northgate, the pewter one, and yelled out to every one "wow, a new rx-8, the first on i've seen on the road! look good."



i still like how they look, and they look even better at night.

JT-Imports 08-31-2003 06:11 PM

Well thats the one...



JT

walken 08-31-2003 07:55 PM

its a photochop

JT-Imports 08-31-2003 10:22 PM

Maybe a photochop, but its the same thing in the MAG I was talking about.

papasmurf 08-31-2003 10:36 PM

the only reason it looks goofy is because the pillar by the rear hatch points almost towards the front of the car, unlike the fd's and all else, where they point towards the rear of the car. it creates a bigger blind spot but makes the car look more rounded, and most likely stronger.



reshape that rear pillar and it will sell... hell it would easily sell like that.

teknics 08-31-2003 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by papasmurf' date='Aug 31 2003, 10:36 PM
the only reason it looks goofy is because the pillar by the rear hatch points almost towards the front of the car, unlike the fd's and all else, where they point towards the rear of the car. it creates a bigger blind spot but makes the car look more rounded, and most likely stronger.



reshape that rear pillar and it will sell... hell it would easily sell like that.

made a rough draft of your idea but my chick is waiting for me in the driveway so not much time went into it.



kevin.

setzep 08-31-2003 11:12 PM

I like the front but there is just something about the rear...

88IntegraLS 09-01-2003 01:22 AM

I dunno, Mazda shied away from the 3 rotor in the past due to its size and center of gravity impact (longer than a two rotor) . . I speculate a 15b two rotor supercharged beast based on Renesis side and center plates.

papasmurf 09-01-2003 02:05 AM

like that but also where the back window (hatch window) meets the pillar, the pillar should face the back of the car, not the front. "/" not like "\" the way it is now..



damm i wish i had photoshop.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

teknics 09-01-2003 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by papasmurf' date='Sep 1 2003, 02:05 AM
like that but also where the back window (hatch window) meets the pillar, the pillar should face the back of the car, not the front. "/" not like "\" the way it is now..



damm i wish i had photoshop.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

where the glass meets the rear pillar? ok lemme sketch that uup rite quick.



kevin.


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