I might be down for one.



Only $500 for Fikse? Damn I thought they were double that

so lets get this group buy started already!!!!



whats the hold up ????

the rims are 17x8.5 in front and 17x10 in the back.



the cost per rim for them new is about 750 each for the front and about 900 each for the rear.

come on fellas lets stay on topic and get this GB started https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

stop demanding....... im just a messenger trying to get someone to sponsor the group buy.... be patient

aren't you getting the authentic one?

Shipping to UK will be around $175 by air. I have shipped many hoods to UK, the diffuser will use the same hood box so shipping will be the same.



Chuck Huang

The R1 lip is made of plastic, it's not even urethane. To make something in plastic, the mold costs a lot. Let's just say if you can't make at least 500+ units, you can't get your money back.



The diffsuer will be made in fiberglass and possible carbon fiber. I can't promise the availability of CF one until we try to make one after the mold is done.



Group Buy Details:



1. Deadline: 2-28-04



2. Number of buyers needed: 10 or more



3. Price: $350 for the fiberglass one. $550-650 for the CF one if it can be made. The definite price for the CF one will be announced after we try to make the first CF one. $50 off if there is someone to donate the diffuser to make the mold.



4. To join: $150 non-refundable deposit is required. Please make sure you really want it before you join. Your deposit will be refunded ONLY IF the group buy does not go through, i.e. not enough group buy buyers by the deadline.



5. To make a deposit: Please paypal $150 to rotaryextreme@aol.com. Put the subject as "Diffuser Group Buy Deposit" Please include your day time contact number in the message area.



6. Shipping: Shipping will be most likely via truck freight. The pro diffuser was too big to be shipped via UPS or Fed Ex. I expect the same for this diffuser. Shipping will be paid to the freight company directly. We don't collect shipping in advance because we don't make money on shipping.



7. ETA: We will import the diffuser from Japan once we have 7 buyers, unless there is someone to donate the diffuser. The production of the mold will begin once we reach 10 buyers. The mold will take about 2 weeks to finish and after the mold is done. 3-4 diffusers can be made per week, depending on the work load.



8. Your first name initial and last name will be posted here after you make a deposit. I will post update whenever a buyer puts down the deposit so everyone will know where we are at.



9. Final payment: The balance is due by March 5th.



If you have any questions, please email me at rotaryextreme@aol.com or post here.



Thank you.



Chuck Huang

Chuck,



You know how much shipping would be to Okinawa, Japan? Or am I better off getting this from Jason at JT-Imports? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Is there any chance to speed this up or get this started sooner ?



Three months seems like such a long wait https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif .

Shipping should be the same as to UK, around $175. So you are looking at $525 with shipping for the fiberglass one.



I don't think I can ship this to an APO address. It's too big.



Chuck

It's already started but people need to put down deposits to really get it going. It will only be made if there are 10+ buyers. The deadline is only for people to join but the manufacturing of the diffuser will start right after we have 10+ buyers.





Chuck

im sure chuck can expedite things if you pay for everyone's deposit, and you can arrange to get paid yourself

chuck thanks for the very quick response.



i can see that there are more than 10 poeple interested, but i guess seeing is believing right? (paypal money that is)

I'm in and heading for Paypal to pass along a deposit.

Group buy buyer list:



1. R. Weber a.k.a. gcthree

Come on already! Everybody is 'interested' but, as usual, there's no takers...and you've got Jason in the group buy section trying to make a case for original at $625!! At $350, this is the right price. Of course, Chuck, this will fit like an original part, right?

deadline is not for another 2 months.... dont worry we'll find people

How much is the deposit? I must have missed it.

Never mind... I see it now. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png

im in fl right now well see how much i spend for the next week and a half but im about 85% sure im gonna get in on this. how far under the car does this thing go. i realizer the dynamics of a diffuser but im still not sure how long it has to be. anyway if soneone could post a pic of one off the car that would be great. thanks a lot

mike

The diffuser covers the fuel tank, so the venturi tunnel begins just aft of the rear axle- theoretically long enough to generate some downforce dependant on the proximity of the tunnel sides to the ground, and of course, the vehicle speed.



Regarding FikseRXSeven's admonition not to worry, we will need another 7 deposits beyond mine to make this thing fly. I'm worried.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png Zoom out, please!

looking at the pic, what is the scuff mark that runs across the diffuser? Where it dragged once? What is the original made of? I put maybe 4000 miles on my car a year, so I don't have as many opportunities to drag it on driveways etc.



Tim

that would be dust/road grime after I wiped it with my hand.



the authentic RE diff is made of FRP: http://members.shaw.ca/wankelhed/FunRoom2.jpg



the diff sits pretty high so u will not scrape it...if u do then u'll also need a new exhaust. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png http://www.encompass-tech.com/photogallery/M3_05.jpg

Just curious, how much does it weigh?

Also, how does it mount to the car?

Any chance the price of the CF version might drop?

I finally got the carbon fiber MS RX8 rear bumper done and my cost was way more than I expected.



http://www.rotaryextreme.com/msrx8/mscfrb-1.jpg



http://www.rotaryextreme.com/msrx8/mscfrb-2.jpg



The RE Amemiya rear diffuser is even harder to make so I have decided not to offer the CF version. Sorry about it.



Chuck Huang

Could someone answer the questions I had?

#1) it's fairly light for it's size since it's fiberglass... prob ~ 5 lbs. I never stuck it on a scale though



#2) it mounts with bolts. I used most of the stock bolts that were used to hold the "lip" that was originally there. For the longer ones, I used whatever I could find lying around. The inner attachment points uses screws too, the holes are already there (infront of the gas tank). For those you'll prob have to drill through the diffuser. The rear-fender area is supposed to be riveted, but I used screws.



Hope that helps

It does, thanks a lot.

chuck those rx8 things look good.......... since i am gathering everyone, can i get a prototype carbon fiber one for the same price https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

Total deposits so far?......exactly ONE



What happened to all those 'interested' parties? I know, I know, don't worry, but at the rate the deposits are flying in here, this buy is going nowhere.



Come on, this is a an awesome additon to the 3rd gen, and the price is right.

Maybe you all forgot? $150 deposit gets this going, otherwise, you'll need to pay double for the actual part- which is what has kept the part off my car in the first place.

The deposit deadline is February 28th. That's over a month away. Calm down, please. As for myself, I'm waiting on the IRS.

It would seem to me that the sooner we factually have enough buyers, the sooner Chuck gets going with this project. So, sitting around and waiting another 2 months makes no sense. Unless we do not really have enough buyers- you don't have to buy it now, just put a deposit down to back-up your interest.



As one who has put down a non-refundable deposit based on posts (such as yours), I have every right to be anxious about this group buy. It's the first time I've gotten in on one, and forgive me, but I have this feeling that I can kiss the $150 goodbye.

I've done this before too (not reading everything), but it's obvious you didn't read all the info Chuck posted. The deposit is non-refundable only if you decide you want to back-out of the deal after you have already commited to it. In other words, if this group buy does not happen because there's not enough people, you will receive your deposit back.

I don't believe for a second that Chuck would keep your deposit if the group buy doesn't attract enough buyers. And if you believe that he's the kind of person that would keep the money, why would you do business with him at all?