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Old 06-28-2003, 06:29 PM
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**** certainly did happen vosko, and keith was impressive in keeping things together. helped that steve was very patient and really insisted on doing a thorough job with everyone, despite all kinds of pressure. he refused to 'blow off' anyone when many were suggesting he do just that. stand up guy right there.



when's steve getting to your car keith? i'd feel like **** if you got shorted.



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Old 06-28-2003, 10:38 PM
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i'll tell you. murphy's law is a bitch. the first time i dyno'd my car. boost controller freaked out. everyone saw it.... man that sucked. anyway. life goes on and everyone will learn. atleast mostly everyone is happy
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Old 06-29-2003, 12:21 AM
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Keith... man... you did the best you could... did everything you could... I really wanted to see you make it up there... but being late and lots of things happened during.. we only got a few cars in...



the saturday meet seemed to be a bit better... we got 4 cars done... 2 where on there for at least 2 hours...



got there around 10:00 but had to wait for steve and rich til about 11:30 due to set backs or what not...



Jay got his run in.. but didn't the numbers he wanted... ran to 14psi then immediately dropped to 12psi.. boost would not hold.. not sure if it was a boost controller problem or WG spring... but Jay seemed to be happy after driving it around...



Ron was next... trying to get as much as possible w/ his T78... but his fuel pump wouldn't hold... pressure kept dropping rapidly as power increase.. I took my pump to see if that help.. but it was the same thing... Ron seemed happy with the tuning as well.. but couldn't get his goal to 20psi due to the pump problem..



Craig was after with his first gen... really nice setup!!! couple runs here and there... lots of tuning.. that thing was sick... but due to a heavy boost spike... resulted in a chipped seal... but steve can confirm this...



Dan then ran... looked great.. sounded great... but steve couldn't pull the right power... motor is going? over 40K on original motor...



all in all it seemed good.. the dyno shop was very very nice.. and the guys running the show where very helpful.. i'm def going back myself there...



but keith... let's keep in contact for further events...
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Again, Thanks to Jay for setting up the saturday tuning session. Despite of a few minor setback, We were able to get all the cars that showed up done. I feel really bad about craig's car because I *might* have prevented it from happening if my concentration was a little sharper. For those who were wondering, I spent about 1.5hrs on his car trying to fix the map he had. Everything was great but the boost would keep at 10psi and creeped to about 17psi at 7000rpm. The car made 380rwhp. I mentioned to Craig that due to the erotic boost pattern, the map sensor was going crazy and doesn't know which fuel cell to go by (which will running rich and lean osillating back and forth). I told Craig to move the map sensor pick up point closer to the throttle body. In the mean time, he went ahead and reconfigure his manual bleeder valve setup for his boost control since we couldn't get it to control boost no matter which way we turn it.



We let the car cool down for about 10 mins, on the first pull in 4th gear, The boost pegged the 3bar map sensor (32psi). I figured it probably went to as high as 35-40psi before I could let off. According to the datalog, it spike from 12psi to maxed boost reading in 0.5 sec. Basically, the wastgate was completely shut. Injector duty cycle was 100% at 5500rpm. He was running 550cc primary and 1600cc secondary. I'm sure that the car was probably making close to 600rwhp when it happened and then popped.



I did offer Craig to help him rebuild his motor by just paying for the cost of parts since I'm partially guilty for letting it happened. I guess we'll see if he would accept it.





FYI, we were tuning these cars on a mustang dyno. If my memory serves correctly, there's a 10-15% difference between mustang dyno and dynojet #'s.



Based on the 116mph pull on Ron's car on the 1/4' run, he was making closer to 345rwhp then the reading of 325rwhp that was measured on the dyno at 11psi of boost.
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It was real cool meeting you steve. I'll give you a yell once my half bridge setup is ready to go
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this makes me love my blitz sbc-id even more.... it has overboost protection!



sorry to hear about anyones mishaps!



hopefully we can get a full day for steve to tune. i want to thank him for doing it even though i didn't get my car tuned. everyone i talked to was very happy. i saw you working your *** off at the BBQ. i was hoping you would enjoy yourself a little more! i did see you and boostn7 chatting over the laptop with the datalogit software on, after i re-introduced you guys
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Thanks again to Jay for setting the tuning session up and letting me use your pump! and a BIG THANKS to Steve for flying out here. I was most impressed with your tuning! We'll ht the 20psi next time, hopefully very very soon!



I was also happy to meet all you guys on Saturday. It was great to finally put a face to your screen names. Great bunch of people. Sorry I didnt make it to rotorfest, work was killin me!



Jay email me those mpegs of the dyno runs when u can.



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yeah thanks for trying to work out my AC idle. i think i got it straightened out, adjusted the AAS and pfc idle settings for like 45mins but its steady enough now. car feels great, awesome job!



now comes the trip to KD to ask what happened
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Old 07-01-2003, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by airbornerx7' date='Jul 1 2003, 08:39 AM
yeah thanks for trying to work out my AC idle. i think i got it straightened out, adjusted the AAS and pfc idle settings for like 45mins but its steady enough now. car feels great, awesome job!



now comes the trip to KD to ask what happened
cough *told you so* cough
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