I will give you this much advise dont do it. Just buy a FD. This is costing me more than a FD out of the Autotrader.



How about some pics. I'll start with the engine cradle. I had to get this custom made so the FD would mount in the FC mounts.

Next we had to modify the water inlet and outlet to the radiator. I bought a new Fluidyne radiator. The top neck was custom made out of aluminum. The bottom was cut and a piece was welded in place. The heater hose nipple was eliminated as there is one on the radiator. We also took off the pollution pump and custom made a bracket and pulley so the OEM serpetine belt can be used.

Yes that is a To4E I got it from Loi at Sportcarmotion he also set me up with 1300cc secondaries a blow off valve and the fluidyne. This pic shows the wiring for the Motec M-4 as well as the polished intake. The inside has been match ported and the throttle body has been ported as well as the secondary butterflies removed.

Another shot of the engine bay. Thats it for now. I'll post more as she starts to take shape. I was going to install a Greddy FMIC but I do not like the fitiment. I am selling the Intercooler only make an offer. I am having an intercooler custom made that I feel will better compliment this setup and the intended use of this car which is road course racing. I like to beat up Porsches on open track days.

wow, looks good, but the whole point was to have a unique FC right??? anyhow what is that big pulley near your turbo? Is that for the airpump?

That pulley was made from scratch along with the bracket. It was used to replace the air pump with having to buy a pulley set. I can still use stock belt.

And YES the whole point of this project is to have a very unique "sleeper". That is why I will not slap a radical body kit on this. I dont want anyone to give it a second look.



When I ran an open track day with it no one looked twice at it in the pits. after a 1/2 hour session I had a lot of visitors wanting to know what was up with it. That was with the stock engine and 225RWHP. Imagine the rutkus this car is going to cause with over 350RWHP??



Plus its turning out to be really pretty under the hood. I even cleaned and waxed the engine bay while the engine was out.

Couldn't you have just bridgeported the tII engine and got the same power?

Yes I could also turn the boost up to 18 lbs on this setup and get well into the high 400 hp range. I have always been one to tune it a bit lower and keep it alive for a long time. I have never blown an engine.



With all the porting done to this I might be way low with my #'s. I might be able to go well into the 400 RWHP range safely I will find out when we dyno tune the M-4.

Nice setup.I think the FD engine sure makes it looks good under the hood. :yum: Shiny things and lots of them. :bigthumg: Nice work.Everyone has to be different thats why I have my 13b carbed up here. :smirk:

yeah, but the biggest difference between the 13b-re and rew is the ports. So couldn't you just match the rew ports and have the same power as an fd (with the same boost)?

Have you seen a REW next to a 13BT?? The REW ports are huge and that is stock. It also seems the port timing is slighly different too.



Now if your talking RE yes it has nice porting too but I didn't have a RE fall into my lap.



I was able to get this engine complete for $2200. It has 22k miles on it. I saw it in the car and got to run it. I couldn't pass it up. I was gonna put it in a FD but decided since I have so much into the suspension on my TII I may as well put it there. My TII weighs in at 2690 lbs before this swap. I think it will be lighter still. This car will give a lot of FD's a good run.

Even my RE didnt exactly go as planned. Im doing it the hard way, running FD twins on the an FD ecu. Little stuff always comes up after you bolt the motor in to slow you down.

So true.

wow thats a lot of custom stuff!



mike

i think i'd rather put a 20B in a TII than do all that work https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Thats because you have the FD. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

or i had a TII and i WAS gonna put a 20B in it ........ :smirk:

i did put a 20b in my t2, total sleeper



mike

Nobody suspects the FC. :bigthumg: Till you show them a 20B can of whoopass.

Again this falls under I dont like to follow the masses. It seems like there are a ton of people swapping in 20b's. I personally want a car that looks really good is really fast and very unique. How many people have swapped in 13B-REW's? Tlue when this car had the stock motor ot was really well balanced and handled great. I dont want to mess that up.



I would love to run a 20B but this 13B-REW was a good deal I got to see it run I got to look at the cars odometer and see it indeed had 20k miles on it. The car was totally stock so I know it wasn't beat too bad. This was a good choice for me.



You dont have to agree. To each his own.

yah i argee with your choice of motor, i would have done some other stuff differently though



mike

I am always open to suggestions.

I am resurecting this thread. I will add photo where they are missing.





I have recieved a few requests for a thread like this. So here it is.

Bah! None of the pictures I need are here at work. I will clean this up tonight.

Here is the intercooler I had custom made. I have toyed around with making a Jims5543 intercooler kit. It was made by Turbonetics/Spearco. It fits perfectly between the side rails of the car. I used the Greddy kits piping for this intercooler and I had 5 feet left over!!



This is a pic of it next to the Greddy one:

Here it is in the car:

Underneath from the turbo to the I/C. Nice straight shot.

Wow, those are some engine mount! How much did it cost to fabricate? Couldn't you just gotten the k2rd engine mounts? Or was your custom job cheaper?





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NICE, how did the other side look???

the K2rd mounts are for a 2 rotor cosmo not fd engine into an fc

I will post the pic tonight. The other side is the same straight out of the i/c to the intake.



I had the piping come in on the bottom on the turbo end and out on the top on the intake end so the whole intercooler is involved in cooling the flow.



Did I mention I have 5' of leftover piping from the greddy kit??





Does anyone know where I can get the piping made?? If I could get the piping made I could mass produce this I/C. I feel like its a lot better then the greddy one. Firstly it does not block off your brake ducts.



I can get the Intercooler made for a decent price. I paid $700 for the I/c now I just need to find a source for the piping and we are set.



Pic later of the other side.

The intake side. We cut the hole out where the battery cooling tube ran through.

Keep up the work Jim, Its turning out really nice and will be a definite sleeper !!

Its been done since Feb. I am posting this up because I keep gettig e-mails from people about it.



I would rather point them to this site to look at the pics and read about it.

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HI JIM. THANKS FOR GIVING ME THIS THREAD





first off i love your opening line,, if your thinking of doing it dont bother https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



im right in the middle of doing it and i have asked myself that same question. the amount of money it has cost so far would have bought me a nice modded fd straight off a japanese auction web site. im probably a bit like you though as i dont want to be like every one else. fd's are getting very common over here and although fc's have been modded i havent seen them...



i did make some mounts of my own but am going to modify them today as they are just a bit too high. i could leave it but i thought i would not be happy if i did.



i have got a extended port job done and i have a hks to4e. i will be using the Apexi power fc ecu if for no other reason than there are poeple in england that can map these.





what maniflod are you useing? my one puts the waste gate right in the way of the down pipe. i was going to ADJUST it today as well. you have modded the water pipes on the front of the engine. the bottom one is obvious but did you do the top one because it fouls the bonnet or was it just to re rought the plumming? i havent tried the bonnet on yet https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png



if it works here is a picture of my car

well it came out but it does show my camara quality up https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

another

So Jim, what are your views on the 13B Cosmo swap, has anyone on Nopistons done it before?



I also want to be different...I'm in the process of looking for an FB for either a TII or Cosmo swap, I just wanted to gather as much advice as possible!

Remember one thing I spent a lot more money than I needed to to do this swap.



The 13B-RE is a better motor. You canot go wrong.



T2REW- You are smart usinf the Power FC I wish in hindsight I went that route. I was misinformed and thought is was a piggy back that only did fuel and timing. My Motec M-4 is top notch no regrets there.



I'll have to look for a pic of my DP and my WG actuator. It was a really tight fit but it did fit. It sounds like you may have your engine much too high. I'll find a pic tonight.