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13bAndB18C 10-09-2002 09:46 PM

Has anyone heard of a 13b powered miata? i plan on making on and was wondering if you guys knew the difficulty of the swap. what is needed?

vosko 10-09-2002 09:51 PM

i only know of one. so freaking fast

90_GTU_jeremy 10-09-2002 10:08 PM

i heard that if the rx-8 and mainly the renesis is sucesful that well get a rotary miata... that wold be some car... 2600lbs and 250 hp? damn finnally a miata even i would try to duck my head into

13bAndB18C 10-09-2002 10:11 PM

haha 250 hp? im gonna shoot for over 300, and its not gonna be for drag either, autocross

vosko 10-09-2002 10:17 PM

turbo or n/a ?

90_GTU_jeremy 10-09-2002 10:56 PM

that 250 was stock btw for the renesis... modded it would be over 3 easy close to 4... better get your 13b miata going b4 those hit

isamu 10-10-2002 02:15 AM

"We," will not be getting the monster Miata, only a select few in Japan and Europe will have that priverladge. IMO the Miata is pure rotary material however the aftermarket for them is huge. There were like 4 or 5 turboed Miatas at the last Autocross ripping it up pretty good.

13bAndB18C 10-10-2002 05:41 AM

I plan on goin turbo. My friend might change to a single turbo and if so, i might buy his tt setup.(stock)

Turbo II 10-10-2002 02:34 PM

doesnt racingbeat have a 13b miata?

vosko 10-10-2002 02:37 PM

nope



they probably built one. they also built a mazda rotary truck too!

YucA 10-10-2002 11:08 PM

there are a few 13bt miatas down here in miami. all you gotta do basically is engine mounts and tranny mounts as far as i know.

JT-Imports 10-11-2002 03:31 AM

I would go NA personally and put down drafts on it....



Just my two cents of dreaming haha



Jason

turborotor 10-11-2002 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo II' date='Oct 10 2002, 03:34 PM
doesnt racingbeat have a 13b miata?

Either racing beat or mazdatrix had a TII miata convertion.



I would love to drop a TII engine in a miata. I guess a the motor mounts and tranny moutn would be the challenge other than that, Use a haltech and you are set for low boost power. ANd some suspension tuning.

I"m heard of people swapping out to a TII diff also in a miata.



C

13bAndB18C 10-11-2002 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by JT-Imports' date='Oct 11 2002, 12:31 AM
I would go NA personally and put down drafts on it....



Just my two cents of dreaming haha



Jason

first off why NA and second, drafts? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

vosko 10-11-2002 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by turborotor' date='Oct 11 2002, 10:03 AM
[quote name='Turbo II' date='Oct 10 2002, 03:34 PM']doesnt racingbeat have a 13b miata?

Either racing beat or mazdatrix had a TII miata convertion.



I would love to drop a TII engine in a miata. I guess a the motor mounts and tranny moutn would be the challenge other than that, Use a haltech and you are set for low boost power. ANd some suspension tuning.

I"m heard of people swapping out to a TII diff also in a miata.



C[/quote]

your new nickname is gonna be mr haltech https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

vosko 10-11-2002 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by 13bAndB18C' date='Oct 11 2002, 04:31 PM
[quote name='JT-Imports' date='Oct 11 2002, 12:31 AM']I would go NA personally and put down drafts on it....



Just my two cents of dreaming haha



Jason

first off why NA and second, drafts? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif[/quote]

NA is more reliable and cheaper. down drafts are carbeurators (spelled wrong) i think they are webers...... you can make 250HP N/A.......... that would be SUPER fun. the car is sort of quick with 130HP.... my mom has one. if it had 200+ hp i would love to drive it everyday as long as it could rev to 10k rpm https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

13bAndB18C 10-11-2002 04:44 PM

how do you convert? what is needed? and what about the different types of ports? this is gonna be a car for autocross only no street. :yum:

vosko 10-11-2002 04:52 PM

http://www.racingbeat.com



they have racing carb setups....

13bAndB18C 10-11-2002 04:59 PM

so for this setup i have to go peripheral intake? and where do i get the carbs and all the needed parts? its an 86 engine btw

vosko 10-11-2002 05:15 PM

you need a peripheral intake. they have carb intake manifolds for N/A stock port

grngtcfd3s 10-11-2002 05:17 PM

mazda's coming out with a rotory powered miata in 2004... WOW... can we say

MONSTER!!!!!

bigtime 10-11-2002 05:18 PM

miatas look so stupid

grngtcfd3s 10-11-2002 05:23 PM

there hella fun to drive though...

Robbomaz 10-12-2002 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by 13bAndB18C' date='Oct 10 2002, 10:46 AM
Has anyone heard of a 13b powered miata? i plan on making on and was wondering if you guys knew the difficulty of the swap. what is needed?

We built one here. The FC turbo bellhousing bolted on the MX5 (Miata) gearbox with no mods! We left the box mount where it was. When the motor was placed in the car there is a kink in the chassis rail pressing that allows it to clear the compressor cover. I reckon Mazda had 13Bt Mx5 'mules' from the beginning!

Jeff20B 10-12-2002 02:38 AM

Mazda had a hydrogen powered Miata as a testbed for alternative fuels. I wonder if they still have it?

Fd3BOOST 10-12-2002 03:03 AM

Sorry I came in a littl elat eon this thread. I saw a 13b miata at mads last fall and it was ******* sick. We got video and hosted it on our website. www.dontbearikki.com

It may bne under the mullet charged video tab.

vosko 10-13-2002 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Robbomaz' date='Oct 12 2002, 01:35 AM
[quote name='13bAndB18C' date='Oct 10 2002, 10:46 AM']Has anyone heard of a 13b powered miata? i plan on making on and was wondering if you guys knew the difficulty of the swap. what is needed?

We built one here. The FC turbo bellhousing bolted on the MX5 (Miata) gearbox with no mods! We left the box mount where it was. When the motor was placed in the car there is a kink in the chassis rail pressing that allows it to clear the compressor cover. I reckon Mazda had 13Bt Mx5 'mules' from the beginning![/quote]

interesting! i know the stock MX5 trans is a N/A RX7 ..... that means you could put in a 13BT tranny and just get a custom driveshaft made ..... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/devil.gif oh the ideas !!!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Robbomaz 10-13-2002 08:03 PM

There is not a car made that can't be improved by a rotary turbo implant..........even Nissans..... :P

Midnightdriver 10-13-2002 08:42 PM

I saw one done in an option magazine the other month. looked real good and on top of that It was a chick that owns it.. :yum: I bet it will cost lots of cash

Robbomaz 10-13-2002 09:00 PM

Cost the doctor dude we did it for about $15K (AUD) for the mechanical part. Thats engine, puter, install, debug. We hiflowed the turbo as well

Drive in asthmatic 100 hp 1.6 drive out stonkin 280 hp 13Bt. I scared him spitless on the demonstartion drive!

He got the car repainted and wheeled while he was at it. No money in medicine!

j9fd3s 10-14-2002 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Robbomaz' date='Oct 11 2002, 10:35 PM
[quote name='13bAndB18C' date='Oct 10 2002, 10:46 AM']Has anyone heard of a 13b powered miata? i plan on making on and was wondering if you guys knew the difficulty of the swap. what is needed?

We built one here. The FC turbo bellhousing bolted on the MX5 (Miata) gearbox with no mods! We left the box mount where it was. When the motor was placed in the car there is a kink in the chassis rail pressing that allows it to clear the compressor cover. I reckon Mazda had 13Bt Mx5 'mules' from the beginning![/quote]

i know mazda north america built one or two. if i had the room to park it.....



mike

RotaryPwr14 10-27-2002 03:02 PM

i know a guy named giny with a white miata running 11s with a T04.

dysthymia 10-28-2002 12:56 AM

Does anyone have pictures of how this was done? I've always read that the car had to be chopped up a lot to cram the 13B in there.

rx7gslse 11-25-2002 02:46 PM

pssssst...





http://www.rotarymiata.com/

cosmo 12-03-2002 06:01 PM

in australia there was a company putting 20bs and lexus v8s in miata(mx5 where i come from) they rebult the front with a tube frame chassis.

cosmo 12-03-2002 06:02 PM

bullit roadsters i think

dac 12-15-2002 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by bigtime' date='Oct 11 2002, 10:18 PM
miatas look so stupid

AMEN to that...





And Carbs SUCK. EFI rules. Webers are cool looking and sound great, but everything I read says driveablity sucks. The Problem is the Mazda wants a lot of fuel which requires some pretty big webers (48 or 51 mm), so upper end is good, but the bottem end suffers.

island_punk 12-22-2005 12:57 AM

so what do i need to do to put a N/A rotary into a miata?

13bturbomx5 12-22-2005 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by island_punk' post='788968' date='Dec 22 2005, 01:57 AM

so what do i need to do to put a N/A rotary into a miata?

You can change out the front bell housing on the tranny and bolt up an NA motor. Get the 85 front cover so you can mount it in the front. This will get you the basics.

Or mazsport.net sells a kit to go turboII complete drive train swap. Mine makes 300WHP at 12psi. and I drive it every day to work. This way I show up to work every day with a smile on my face.



Steve[attachment=35417:attachment]

Il RX8 lI 12-22-2005 07:59 PM

http://www.mazsport.net/html/rotary_conv_parts.htm


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