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rotaryextreme 01-25-2003 06:50 PM

http://www.rotaryextreme.com/craigdyno.jpg



Here is the deal. I dyno tuned my friend's car on stock sequential twin turbo. The car has the following mods:



stock unmodified twin turbo running sequential

ported motor with the racing beat street port template

R33 fuel pump

550 cc/min primary and 1300cc/min secondary

HKS twin power

cold air intake

large stock mount IC

downpipe, midpipe, restrictive single tip HKS exhaust





The dynosheet shows the a/f. At some of the runs, the a/f at high rpm looks lean like crazy but it's not. The o2 sensor at the tail pipe blows off during the run. The car is still running rich. The boost level is 1.15 kg/cm2 and the intake temp is at 45C measured by power fc.



I believe if I lean it out a little and have him change to a higher flow cat-back exhaust such as the APEX GT, it shouldn't be a problem to break 400rwhp on stock twins. The turbos are just stock, not modified or anything and they have 30k on them already.



Now this friend of mine wants to get a 3 bar map sensor and want me to tune the car to run 1.35 kg/cm2 on stock twins. I am sure you guys want to see that dynosheet too. =)



Chuck Huang

vosko 01-25-2003 06:54 PM

looks good. somebody else made that much power my friend anthonyNYC..... :bigthumg:

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 07:00 PM

Sounds like B.S. to me Chuck sorry, But I know for a fact that the racing beat templates are small. Smaller than my ports as a matter of fact.

There is no way that you are making that power on that car.. I want to see the video.

SPEED_NYC 01-25-2003 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jan 25 2003, 05:00 PM
Sounds like B.S. to me Chuck sorry, But I know for a fact that the racing beat templates are small. Smaller than my ports as a matter of fact.

There is no way that you are making that power on that car.. I want to see the video.

if you think thats BS, i'm not even gonna tell you what john D (boostin7) just dynoed with stock motor AND stock turbos. at 17psi he made more power than some guys with ported motors and single turbos

vosko 01-25-2003 07:35 PM

roan you beat me to it ! i was gonna say john d is probably putting down 400rwhp..... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



he is the MAN! :bigok:

1Revvin7 01-25-2003 07:38 PM

what psi was this dyno @?

Boostn7 01-25-2003 07:42 PM

Its true.....ye it is https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif



402rwh and 356 rwt @ 17.5 psi...



injectors maxed out .....4x850cc

map sensor maxed....1.13-1.14kg/cm2....17.5psi



here's the sheet...

SPEED_NYC 01-25-2003 07:43 PM

correction vosko, john d is putting down 402rwhp!!!!!!! on stock motor and turbos!!!!



http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.ph...threadid=152271



dont hate FD3boost https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png NY/NJ guys are known for doing the impossible.

i'd love to see riki bring his ported single turbo car to atco and loose to a stock motored, stock turboed car https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

1Revvin7 01-25-2003 07:45 PM

man thats nutz! Those are awesome numbers, so it really is all in the tuning.

Boostn7 01-25-2003 07:45 PM

and another....

vosko 01-25-2003 07:47 PM

looks great. can't wait to see you at the track again. congrats yet again !!!! :bigok:

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by SPEED_NYC' date='Jan 25 2003, 05:43 PM
correction vosko, john d is putting down 402rwhp!!!!!!! on stock motor and turbos!!!!



http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.ph...threadid=152271



dont hate FD3boost https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png NY/NJ guys are known for doing the impossible.

i'd love to see riki bring his ported single turbo car to atco and loose to a stock motored, stock turboed car https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Who said anything about hating..

And By the way as of today Rikki is still on stock turbos..

But I would love to see your boys beat my buddy Ray's 9.9

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

vosko 01-25-2003 07:49 PM

i'm impressed too john d is running faster than i am lol

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 07:50 PM

What exactly are the mods on these cars and lets not leave out the little stuff.

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 07:52 PM

Also Rikkis 346 was on 11psi not 17. Big difference ladies. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

1Revvin7 01-25-2003 07:53 PM

ahah

amp 01-25-2003 07:59 PM

impressive boostn7...

any concern with longevity...

was this a benchmark one time deal......

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 08:00 PM

Yea Im guessing that your not running around on 17 psi all the time https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

r_xplicit 01-25-2003 08:02 PM

hey hoes, stop crying....come run my bike if you wanna play cetch-up.....



who is doing the tuning on those cars. seems like a pretty good job if you ask me.



hey fd3boost. don't be so quick to jump on these guys. remember when you had such a hard time defending ryan a few months ago when his secret sauce came out......give them the benefit of the doubt......





power fc's i believe......?



great numbers guys......i can not wait to get my car tuned....





lou

SPEED_NYC 01-25-2003 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jan 25 2003, 05:48 PM
Who said anything about hating..

And By the way as of today Rikki is still on stock turbos..

But I would love to see your boys beat my buddy Ray's 9.9

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

you were hating on chucks claim of 386 on ported motor and stock turbos, you said that there was no way that that car put down those #'s.



i figured you would definately hate on a car making more power with a stock motor.....

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 09:29 PM

I said I didnt belive it , when did I say that I hated it.

It's called English, do you speak it? :squint:

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 09:30 PM

But I also was assuming that he was claiming that on say 12psi.

Which as you can understand is unbelieveable.



Cause you see ...1.35 kg/cm2.... this i cannot read. I never claimed to.



So my bad, but I never said anything about hatin so keep that **** in the 7 club will ya.

rx7machine 01-25-2003 09:48 PM

Great job guys.


What exactly are the mods on these cars and lets not leave out the little stuff.
That's what I wanna know.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

vosko 01-25-2003 10:30 PM

all the boltons on boostn7's car

Boostn7 01-25-2003 10:52 PM

>>Also Rikkis 346 was on 11psi not 17. Big difference ladies.





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Coming soon.... Fd3BOOST.com:D



when he hits 400+ with stock twins then he could brag how he did it with 14psi or less.....



I give respect where respect is due !!!!-including Rikki's car.

regardless if ported or stock, seq or non-seq, twins or single.........there's always a few that will push it further more then others.....some w/ luck others with no luck.





CONGRATS CHUCK !!!

those are awesome numbers.



Later

rx7machine 01-25-2003 10:57 PM


all the boltons on boostn7's car
O ok, cool.

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by Boostn7' date='Jan 25 2003, 08:52 PM
>>Also Rikkis 346 was on 11psi not 17. Big difference ladies.





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Coming soon.... Fd3BOOST.com:D



when he hits 400+ with stock twins then he could brag how he did it with 14psi or less.....



I give respect where respect is due !!!!-including Rikki's car.

regardless if ported or stock, seq or non-seq, twins or single.........there's always a few that will push it further more then others.....some w/ luck others with no luck.





CONGRATS CHUCK !!!

those are awesome numbers.



Later



If Ryan pushed it up to 17 psi I imagine his numbers would be similar, most likely higher. So whats your point?

Your making no sense man. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

rotaryextreme 01-25-2003 11:17 PM

1.15 kg/cm2 = 16.48 psi. ( 1 kg/cm2 = 14.22 psi.)



The car is dynoed at 16.33 psi, not 12 psi. The boost level was posted on there and I don't know where you got the 12 psi from. I did the tuning and the ECU is power fc as stated in the first post. 1.35 kg/cm2 (19 psi) will be tried in a few months, just for demostration, fun and hell of it. But this friend of mine does drive it at 1.15kg/cm2 on the street. I guess dynosheet does not satisfy some people A video will help but too bad we didn't take one. We will take one when we try 19 psi on the stock twins.



There is no secret sauce or secret weapon or any kind of bull **** I am hiding from you. What's posted on there is what the car has. It's not like I am trying to sell something on this thread. Just want to share with people that something can be done.



Chuck Huang

vosko 01-25-2003 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jan 26 2003, 12:14 AM
[quote name='Boostn7' date='Jan 25 2003, 08:52 PM'] >>Also Rikkis 346 was on 11psi not 17. Big difference ladies.





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Coming soon.... Fd3BOOST.com:D



when he hits 400+ with stock twins then he could brag how he did it with 14psi or less.....



I give respect where respect is due !!!!-including Rikki's car.

regardless if ported or stock, seq or non-seq, twins or single.........there's always a few that will push it further more then others.....some w/ luck others with no luck.





CONGRATS CHUCK !!!

those are awesome numbers.



Later



If Ryan pushed it up to 17 psi I imagine his numbers would be similar, most likely higher. So whats your point?

Your making no sense man. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif [/quote]

i think he is saying he has the #'s and times to prove it and he will congratulate anyone that does better. also rikki has a PFS ported engine.... that is a big difference right there!

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 11:22 PM

Calm down some there Chucky, I did not know how to make the conversion, like I stated so I (assumed) you were claiming to run slightly higher than stock boost levels..

Read guys..

So then once I realized that you ran on near 17 psi then I see how you got good numbers.



Everyone else is getting awefully defensive and draggin Rikkis name into it. Then claiming Im hating.

Get real.

Congrats , I made an assumption and then corrected myself.

Lighten up https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/moon.gif

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 11:23 PM

Thanks for the translation Jon :bigok:

rotaryextreme 01-25-2003 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by Boostn7' date='Jan 25 2003, 08:52 PM
>>Also Rikkis 346 was on 11psi not 17. Big difference ladies.





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Coming soon.... Fd3BOOST.com<<



Yeh, big difference !!!!! 346 vs 402 rwh........and no special sauce either https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



when he hits 400+ with stock twins then he could brag how he did it with 14psi or less.....



I give respect where respect is due !!!!-including Rikki's car.

regardless if ported or stock, seq or non-seq, twins or single.........there's always a few that will push it further more then others.....some w/ luck others with no luck.





CONGRATS CHUCK !!!

those are awesome numbers.



Later

After I see yours I feel ashamed. 402 with stock engine is just crazy. I wish we could pull 50 runs to get it more fine tuned. I didn't change the ignition much and it was hard to do it with a commander as well. For th 19 psi run, I will remember to bring my laptop and use the datalogit, and take a video of it.



Chuck Huang

vosko 01-25-2003 11:29 PM

i guess i should say it. i congratulate anyone who can "raise the bar" for others!



congrats to chuck and boostn7!

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2003 11:32 PM

Well said, my bad . Congrats fellas.



I gotta keep you fuckers on your toes.



This one is for you..

rx7machine 01-25-2003 11:37 PM

All this **** gives me a headache.. love the pic! :bigthumg:

Silver Ninety Three 01-26-2003 01:58 AM

I don't want to call bs but I must find it really hard to believe to break 400 rwhp on stock twins, and especially with the motor being stock also. How aggressive is your timing, and what is your a/f ratrio? I've seen you run and the car is fast, but damn! Most I've ever seen on stock turbos was about 380 hp @ 18 psi by Anthony Maharaj.

blaze08 01-26-2003 10:42 AM

The question we are all looking for is... How does he do it! How can that be done, it's so unheard of. Does any one know exactly, no Bullshit.

vosko 01-26-2003 10:45 AM

he said he made 40 runs on the dyno. its all about tuning!

SPEED_NYC 01-26-2003 12:26 PM

50 runs......

9BASE3 01-26-2003 01:08 PM

Dave, can you send her my way? JEBUS!





Oh, and someone feel like tuning my car? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png


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