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well, i am having problems getting my third gen started. When i turn the key it tries to crank and turn over, but it just won't start. You can smell a little bit of gas when turning the key. If I push start the car, it will run fine. I have no idea what this could be. Any suggestions?



Thanks

It sounds like it's flooded. This page is for 2nd gen's, but the main idea still applies:

http://www.rx7.com/tech/unflood-fc.html

Have you tried holding the accelerator pedal down to the floor when you start it?

i didnt think it would flood everyday. thanks for the link though, i will give it a try

Try giving us more dteails on when this happens: All the time, cold hot, etc.

how many miles on the car? It could be a sign of low compression :(

leaky injectors?

it just seems to randomly happen. one day, the car will start in the morning, but not when i leave work in the evening. the next day, it won't start in the morning, but will the rest of the day. The car just turned 50k last week.

It's possible that you have some sort of loose connection, but it's hard to tell. No check engine light?

it's cranking over, just not starting right?

no check engine light. yeah phin, cranks over, just won't start.

What do you have to do to finally get it started, just keep cranking?

to finally get it started, i have to push start it. which is getting old real quick.



but after i push start it once, it will crank the rest of the day.

Damn that really sounds like my 89 when the injectors were leaking, but I am not sure if the symptoms are the same on the 93+??? anyone?

Starter?

well, it wouldn't start again this morning. tried the unflooding procedure, then said **** it and drove my roomate's car to class.

That ain't right.

thats odd, if you push start and it works fine then the ignition /fuel system sounds like it is working fine.

Are you sure ther starter is actually engaing the flywheel? If the bendix gear is shot, the starter motor itself will spin and you will hear it, but the gear does'nt come out to engage the flywheel. Nex time it happens, have someone standing looking at your engine, see if all the belts on the engine move while cranking...

talked to dave at KD today............. he thinks it is low compression. that made my day https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif gonna do a compression test this weekend.



damn i am glad that i bought a s13 last week.

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just tried to start it and all the belts and pulleys moved

i'm gonna say.... leaky fuel injectors or low compression. might be time for the ATF trick https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I had this **** today: started the engine and moved some meters just to have a better psition for a wheel-change. switched the car off and when I switched it on again it idled for some seconds and went off. now I can't start it any more. help

ok, have tried the fuse box method but it still doesn't start. will put out the plugs now. isn't it better to use motor oil on them than the ATF?

I had the same problem in my car but only if I went a day without starting it. I woudl just turn and turn but no fire until finally it'd start and blow a tone of smoke out for a few sec. I replaced my spark plugs and the problem goes away. I burn really rich anyway becasue of the fuel pump and go through spark plugs pretty often and it always happens when they've been in there a while. Try doing a tune up and see if it works for ya.

Yeah, I took out my spark plugs today and it's no wonder the car didn't start. About 1mm of coal on 'em. I am running rich though. Now I ordered '9 NGK Racing plugs which will be here by tomorrow. I'm sure the problem will be gone. Thanks!

Hey flame thrower. I have pretty much the same set up like you. Only that I use the Apexi front mount i/c. Have you done a dyno yet? What boost are you running? Base maps?? Thanks

Nah I havn't done a dyno on it yet, Waiting till I throw on all the parts to finish it to get it tuned. I'm still running a little over stock like 11.5. I dotn know what maps I have running, Pro-Tech programed my power fc for my car. When I finish off the performance mods i'll let ya know what numbers I got.

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