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Old 02-19-2003, 03:04 PM
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Ok so i got bored today in school and we were in the comp. lab studying automotive A/C systems, which i've mastered so i decided to go shopping and made a list of things i need for my future 3rd gen rx7 (lol, yes sometime in the future, ******* court never ends)



Here's what I've come up with:

1) BNR Rebuilt and Street Ported engine

2) BNR Stage 3 Turbos - Non-Seq

3) Walbro In Tank Fuel Pump

4) 1650cc Injectors

5) NGK Plug Wires and Plugs

6) PFC, Commander, Datalogit

7) DP, MP, CB

8) Koyo Radiator

9) Aluminum AST

10) ACT S/S Clutch

11) Modified Fuel Rail for injectors

12) Defi Boost and Water Temp Gauges

13) Engine Torque Brace

14) Blitz Type-R Blow-Off Valve

15) A-Pillar Dual Gauge Mount

16) R1/R2 Strut Bar (if i don't buy an R1/R2)



Now I've got two other things on the list but Need help with them:

1) Efini Y-Pipe - Where do i get it from and how much is it?

2) FMIC - I like the Blitz one, but have been considering the GReddy's but cant figure which one is best for a high horsepower yet still twin turbo engine. The 3-row is single turbo only correct? So would the 2-row still be good for this application?



Also can anyone see something I've missed on the list? I'm trying to make as complete a list as i can and would like to make sure i don't skip ****.



One last thing - "Turbo Timers- your thoughts?" I figure if i drive it hard chances are i'll park somewhere and let it idle anyway while i chat with whomever i raced, ya know? And i've heard they're not too good cause it needs moving air to cool properly and such.



Oh and if anyone is interested I priced everything out (excluding the FMIC and Efini Y-Pipe) at $9,701.65 and thats without doing comparison shopping for cheaper prices . So i'm still within my goal (trying to make my dream FD without spending more then i sell the durango for...right now if i grab a blown FD for 5k, and spend 9,700 on it i could sell my sound system for about $1k and sell my truck for $14k and be right in my goal woo)



Thanks for your time, and yes im awaiting the responses of "it isn't just that simple" as i've heard plenty of times....this is your chance to show me why it isn't simple .



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what about a hood with vents on it to hell keep the engine compartment cool? I think the is a GB for one so you can get an Idea of the Price..which was I thinkk $950 fiberclass, and $1250 carbonfiber..
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Yes good thing to mention need to add that too my list no idea how that passed my mind, and that is a godlike hood.



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You should send me a copy of your list for when I get an FD..
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I'm planning on making a very detailed list including best/cheapest places (with best service) to buy each part from. I'm going to plan it out in stages as well. I've been considering it because in the DSM community they have like a bible of how to get to 300hp, 400hp, and etc. Of exact pieces and exact order of putting them on.....however hear it's sort of "get a single turbo" lol .



Oh and quick change to my writeup there.



10) ACT 4-Puck or 6-Puck, S/S is too weak

And i found the CB (RB Dual tip) for cheaper and found better pricing on clutches so the new total is



$9591.65 (without efini ypipe or FMIC)







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edit: right now I have a rather messy list written up but i wrote it up when i was first learning about the FD, this list is after i sat down and weighed out pros and cons of most options



Oh and this combo is good for 470rwhp if not more (as BNR Supercars guinea pigs have proven on the dyno, with a properly tuned PFC)
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that's so funny, I was sitting at work last week and made a list of my own too.



how about a short shifter, brake upgrade(?), vac. hose job(ewww)..i assume your turbo kit will come with open air filter elements?



re: turbo timer - try staying off the boost for the last 5-10 minutes of wherever you're driving, and if you idle your car when you finally stop try turning on the parking lights or A/C to activate the fans; or get the fan switch mod.



i'm not sure, but i know i've seen the efini y-pipe in more than one place..maybe rx7.com or mazdatrix.com..can't say about price..also get an upgraded crossover tube with your y. (probably come together anyway)



my list is all brand-name stuff 'cause i plan on winning the lottery (yeah right..no,no, don't wake me!)



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Uh... you're missing a "Type R' sticker that you can drape across your hood and fender, like this:





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Originally Posted by teknics' date='Feb 19 2003, 01:27 PM
10) ACT 4-Puck or 6-Puck, S/S is too weak
Too Weak? you are planning to make more than 400 ft/lbs of torque? Please, tell us how, especially running twins...

Although I guess being able to say ACT XTREME clutch makes it seem like its faster



I'd move the downpipe, radiator and AST WAY up on your list...



And add brakes - why do people try to double the horsepower of the car, yet feel the stock brakes are sufficient?



I just reread your post - you don't even have an RX-7?



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Originally Posted by Bulletproof' date='Feb 19 2003, 10:31 PM
[quote name='teknics' date='Feb 19 2003, 01:27 PM']



10) ACT 4-Puck or 6-Puck, S/S is too weak
Too Weak? you are planning to make more than 400 ft/lbs of torque? Please, tell us how, especially running twins...

Although I guess being able to say ACT XTREME clutch makes it seem like its faster



I'd move the downpipe, radiator and AST WAY up on your list...



And add brakes - why do people try to double the horsepower of the car, yet feel the stock brakes are sufficient?



I just reread your post - you don't even have an RX-7?



Bench racing ROCKS [/quote]

the S/S only holds 280 ft-lbs



These twins have proven to make over 470rwhp, without perfect tuning.



The list isn't in chronological order, i know i didnt mention that anywhere, mainly because the purchases will prolly come within a week of each other



I dont think i have to "add" brakes just upgrade them, which will be free via school so it's not listed.



ANd yes i don't have an rx7 but instead of jumping on my case you might like to know im facing 6 charges in state court and paying for my attorney has prevented me from buying a vehicle, as is the fact that i dunno if im going to prison or not so why buy a car if ill be in prison for a couple years?



I was looking for advice, not attacks.



g'day sir.



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Originally Posted by teknics' date='Feb 19 2003, 08:55 PM
[quote name='Bulletproof' date='Feb 19 2003, 10:31 PM'] [quote name='teknics' date='Feb 19 2003, 01:27 PM']



10) ACT 4-Puck or 6-Puck, S/S is too weak
Too Weak? you are planning to make more than 400 ft/lbs of torque? Please, tell us how, especially running twins...

Although I guess being able to say ACT XTREME clutch makes it seem like its faster



I'd move the downpipe, radiator and AST WAY up on your list...



And add brakes - why do people try to double the horsepower of the car, yet feel the stock brakes are sufficient?



I just reread your post - you don't even have an RX-7?



Bench racing ROCKS [/quote]

the S/S only holds 280 ft-lbs



These twins have proven to make over 470rwhp, without perfect tuning.



The list isn't in chronological order, i know i didnt mention that anywhere, mainly because the purchases will prolly come within a week of each other



I dont think i have to "add" brakes just upgrade them, which will be free via school so it's not listed.



ANd yes i don't have an rx7 but instead of jumping on my case you might like to know im facing 6 charges in state court and paying for my attorney has prevented me from buying a vehicle, as is the fact that i dunno if im going to prison or not so why buy a car if ill be in prison for a couple years?



I was looking for advice, not attacks.



g'day sir.



kevin.[/quote]

OK Lemme address these one at a time..



Directly from the ACT website



"Applications: Pull type clutch, Stock 236mm Suggested Retail Price

Clutch Kit Number: ZX3-HDOO $601.00

Torque Capacity: 402

Pressure Increase: 40% Over Stock

Weight: 17.00 lbs.

ACT Pressure Plate: MZ-011

ACT Disc: MZSD069

Release Bearing: RB600

Pilot Bearing: PB1013

Alignment Tool: AT03 "



Show me a 470rwhp dyno plot on these turbos please - thats a LOT higher than Ive ever heard stock-based twins going.

Not to mention clutches hold T-O-R-Q-U-E and not H-O-R-S-E-P-O-W-E-R .. very few streetable rotaries are making 400 ft lbs, and none that I know of through the stock-based housings/manifold.



Add brakes - a simple rotor/pad upgrade is not going to be sufficient for over double the power on the car - Id think new front rotors and 4-pot calipers, as well as rotors and pads for the rear. Don't forget the wheels that become necessary when you need to fit adequate (larger) brakes.



Sucks about your current legal situation, but if you are facing jailtime, and a couple of years at that, then there may be a ton of different parts available/discontinued by the time you are out. Good luck, I hope your fines and incarceration are minimal



Didn't mean to sound like it was attack, but it seems your list you created was straight from an Import Tuner FD3S upgrade plan. It appeared it was a lot more name dropping for "see what my rx-7 has - bling bling" as opposed to actually thinking out your position, budget and desires/requirements/purpose of the vehicle. Theres a limited amount of these beautiful automobiles available anymore, so I kind of cringe when someone comes up with a list of hardcore upgrades for a car they don't even have yet.



Advice - get the car first, do the reliability mods and learn to drive it. Find out what it doesn't have that you require. Determine which of the stock systems you are maxing out. Then address those issues.



Again, no flames or attack intended - you wanted input .. Good luck



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