Ok so i got bored today in school and we were in the comp. lab studying automotive A/C systems, which i've mastered so i decided to go shopping and made a list of things i need for my future 3rd gen rx7 (lol, yes sometime in the future, ******* court never ends)



Here's what I've come up with:

1) BNR Rebuilt and Street Ported engine

2) BNR Stage 3 Turbos - Non-Seq

3) Walbro In Tank Fuel Pump

4) 1650cc Injectors

5) NGK Plug Wires and Plugs

6) PFC, Commander, Datalogit

7) DP, MP, CB

8) Koyo Radiator

9) Aluminum AST

10) ACT S/S Clutch

11) Modified Fuel Rail for injectors

12) Defi Boost and Water Temp Gauges

13) Engine Torque Brace

14) Blitz Type-R Blow-Off Valve

15) A-Pillar Dual Gauge Mount

16) R1/R2 Strut Bar (if i don't buy an R1/R2)



Now I've got two other things on the list but Need help with them:

1) Efini Y-Pipe - Where do i get it from and how much is it?

2) FMIC - I like the Blitz one, but have been considering the GReddy's but cant figure which one is best for a high horsepower yet still twin turbo engine. The 3-row is single turbo only correct? So would the 2-row still be good for this application?



Also can anyone see something I've missed on the list? I'm trying to make as complete a list as i can and would like to make sure i don't skip ****.



One last thing - "Turbo Timers- your thoughts?" I figure if i drive it hard chances are i'll park somewhere and let it idle anyway while i chat with whomever i raced, ya know? And i've heard they're not too good cause it needs moving air to cool properly and such.



Oh and if anyone is interested I priced everything out (excluding the FMIC and Efini Y-Pipe) at $9,701.65 and thats without doing comparison shopping for cheaper prices https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png. So i'm still within my goal (trying to make my dream FD without spending more then i sell the durango for...right now if i grab a blown FD for 5k, and spend 9,700 on it i could sell my sound system for about $1k and sell my truck for $14k and be right in my goal woo)



Thanks for your time, and yes im awaiting the responses of "it isn't just that simple" as i've heard plenty of times....this is your chance to show me why it isn't simple https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png.



kevin.

what about a hood with vents on it to hell keep the engine compartment cool? I think the is a GB for one so you can get an Idea of the Price..which was I thinkk $950 fiberclass, and $1250 carbonfiber..

Yes good thing to mention need to add that too my list no idea how that passed my mind, and that is a godlike hood.



Thanks,

kevin.

You should send me a copy of your list for when I get an FD..

I'm planning on making a very detailed list including best/cheapest places (with best service) to buy each part from. I'm going to plan it out in stages as well. I've been considering it because in the DSM community they have like a bible of how to get to 300hp, 400hp, and etc. Of exact pieces and exact order of putting them on.....however hear it's sort of "get a single turbo" lol https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png.



Oh and quick change to my writeup there.



10) ACT 4-Puck or 6-Puck, S/S is too weak

And i found the CB (RB Dual tip) for cheaper and found better pricing on clutches so the new total is



$9591.65 (without efini ypipe or FMIC)



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kevin.



edit: right now I have a rather messy list written up but i wrote it up when i was first learning about the FD, this list is after i sat down and weighed out pros and cons of most options https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Oh and this combo is good for 470rwhp if not more (as BNR Supercars guinea pigs have proven on the dyno, with a properly tuned PFC)

that's so funny, I was sitting at work last week and made a list of my own too. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



how about a short shifter, brake upgrade(?), vac. hose job(ewww)..i assume your turbo kit will come with open air filter elements?



re: turbo timer - try staying off the boost for the last 5-10 minutes of wherever you're driving, and if you idle your car when you finally stop try turning on the parking lights or A/C to activate the fans; or get the fan switch mod.



i'm not sure, but i know i've seen the efini y-pipe in more than one place..maybe rx7.com or mazdatrix.com..can't say about price..also get an upgraded crossover tube with your y. (probably come together anyway)



my list is all brand-name stuff 'cause i plan on winning the lottery (yeah right..no,no, don't wake me!)



fritz

Uh... you're missing a "Type R' sticker that you can drape across your hood and fender, like this:





TYPER

Too Weak? you are planning to make more than 400 ft/lbs of torque? Please, tell us how, especially running twins...

Although I guess being able to say ACT XTREME clutch makes it seem like its faster https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



I'd move the downpipe, radiator and AST WAY up on your list...



And add brakes - why do people try to double the horsepower of the car, yet feel the stock brakes are sufficient?



I just reread your post - you don't even have an RX-7? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif



Bench racing ROCKS https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif

Too Weak? you are planning to make more than 400 ft/lbs of torque? Please, tell us how, especially running twins...

Although I guess being able to say ACT XTREME clutch makes it seem like its faster https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



I'd move the downpipe, radiator and AST WAY up on your list...



And add brakes - why do people try to double the horsepower of the car, yet feel the stock brakes are sufficient?



I just reread your post - you don't even have an RX-7? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif



Bench racing ROCKS https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif [/quote]

the S/S only holds 280 ft-lbs



These twins have proven to make over 470rwhp, without perfect tuning.



The list isn't in chronological order, i know i didnt mention that anywhere, mainly because the purchases will prolly come within a week of each other



I dont think i have to "add" brakes just upgrade them, which will be free via school so it's not listed.



ANd yes i don't have an rx7 but instead of jumping on my case you might like to know im facing 6 charges in state court and paying for my attorney has prevented me from buying a vehicle, as is the fact that i dunno if im going to prison or not so why buy a car if ill be in prison for a couple years?



I was looking for advice, not attacks.



g'day sir.



kevin.

Too Weak? you are planning to make more than 400 ft/lbs of torque? Please, tell us how, especially running twins...

Although I guess being able to say ACT XTREME clutch makes it seem like its faster https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



I'd move the downpipe, radiator and AST WAY up on your list...



And add brakes - why do people try to double the horsepower of the car, yet feel the stock brakes are sufficient?



I just reread your post - you don't even have an RX-7? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif



Bench racing ROCKS https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif [/quote]

the S/S only holds 280 ft-lbs



These twins have proven to make over 470rwhp, without perfect tuning.



The list isn't in chronological order, i know i didnt mention that anywhere, mainly because the purchases will prolly come within a week of each other



I dont think i have to "add" brakes just upgrade them, which will be free via school so it's not listed.



ANd yes i don't have an rx7 but instead of jumping on my case you might like to know im facing 6 charges in state court and paying for my attorney has prevented me from buying a vehicle, as is the fact that i dunno if im going to prison or not so why buy a car if ill be in prison for a couple years?



I was looking for advice, not attacks.



g'day sir.



kevin.[/quote]

OK Lemme address these one at a time..



Directly from the ACT website



"Applications: Pull type clutch, Stock 236mm Suggested Retail Price

Clutch Kit Number: ZX3-HDOO $601.00

Torque Capacity: 402

Pressure Increase: 40% Over Stock

Weight: 17.00 lbs.

ACT Pressure Plate: MZ-011

ACT Disc: MZSD069

Release Bearing: RB600

Pilot Bearing: PB1013

Alignment Tool: AT03 "



Show me a 470rwhp dyno plot on these turbos please - thats a LOT higher than Ive ever heard stock-based twins going.

Not to mention clutches hold T-O-R-Q-U-E and not H-O-R-S-E-P-O-W-E-R .. very few streetable rotaries are making 400 ft lbs, and none that I know of through the stock-based housings/manifold.



Add brakes - a simple rotor/pad upgrade is not going to be sufficient for over double the power on the car - Id think new front rotors and 4-pot calipers, as well as rotors and pads for the rear. Don't forget the wheels that become necessary when you need to fit adequate (larger) brakes.



Sucks about your current legal situation, but if you are facing jailtime, and a couple of years at that, then there may be a ton of different parts available/discontinued by the time you are out. Good luck, I hope your fines and incarceration are minimal



Didn't mean to sound like it was attack, but it seems your list you created was straight from an Import Tuner FD3S upgrade plan. It appeared it was a lot more name dropping for "see what my rx-7 has - bling bling" as opposed to actually thinking out your position, budget and desires/requirements/purpose of the vehicle. Theres a limited amount of these beautiful automobiles available anymore, so I kind of cringe when someone comes up with a list of hardcore upgrades for a car they don't even have yet.



Advice - get the car first, do the reliability mods and learn to drive it. Find out what it doesn't have that you require. Determine which of the stock systems you are maxing out. Then address those issues.



Again, no flames or attack intended - you wanted input .. Good luck



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You may also want some block off plates so that you can eliminate your emmissions. I think they go for about $75. Your also going to want more guages like EGT, Oil Pressure, A/F ratio, and Oil Temp. The guage prices depend on brand. Don't forget tires, suspension and rear strut tower bar. Last but not least an ignition. Possibly HKS twin power. Hope this helps.



Have there been any new develope meants on your legal issues? Hope you get this **** solved soon. BTW I still think it's bogus that they are charging you. You didn't know about it until after the fact. Did the prosecuter(sp) offer you any deals?

HE SAID BNR STAGE 3 TURBOS..ID THINK ITS POSSIBLE ON A PORTED ENGINE...



DONT FORGET MY EX HUGE SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

BNR's are stock based. I think there was a 407-RWHP dyno sheet. Not 470. But I could be wrong.



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Ok my turn for one at a time:



You must assume i said the ACT Extreme, when I Said the ACT S/S. This actually was a misprint by me due to a mistake in my reading of a site. There is no ACT S/S listed for the 3rd gen, which you could've pointed out, instead you decided to just say i was talking about the ACT Extreme...which i WAS NOT. The extreme is more expensive and handles less torque (according to the site i am on) then the 4 puck and 6 puck. So OBVIOUSLY in a smart-consumer's mind you'd choose a 4 or 6 puck as well. No need to quote **** that i wasn't referring to in the first place. but hey if you wanna play that i will too:



Applications: Pull type clutch, Stock 236mm Suggested Retail Price



Clutch Kit Number: ZX3-HDR4 $556.50

Torque Capacity: 514

Pressure Increase: 40% Over Stock

Weight: 17.00 lbs.

ACT Pressure Plate: MZ-011

ACT Disc: 4P240H

Release Bearing: RB600

Pilot Bearing: PB1013

Alignment Tool: AT03 Actual Photo

XACT Flywheels Available: 600145 600140

Comments: *Not recommended for street use due to harsh engagement.

Note:





Now attached you will find an overly richly semi-tuned dyno chart of the guinea pig rx7 for the turbos i am speaking of. Something to take note of is that this set has unclipped compressor wheels, and due to the fact it was running pig rich in tuning isn't showing it's best possibilities. With tuning alone another 20hp can be taken out. Oh and he is also running 1 psi less then what the final, clipped compressor wheel, with a finely tuned PFC map, version of the turbos will come with. so i believe 1 psi on the rx7 is suppsoiovely 16hp or something at the block...so let's say you lose 15% in the driveline...it's still another 14hp or so at the wheels. So thats an extra 34hp without the clipped wheels. So take the 412hp add 34hp and you have 446hp...then you can factor in the clipped wheels and you see where the 470 comes from. Also note the torque on the chart.....thats pretty damn close to 400ft-lbs huh? Now you may say "well it's not that close"..... I've seen rotaries with 4 puck ACT clutches with barely over 300hp, and probably mid 200's in the torque category, so to say mine is overkill would be laughable.



So again you "ASSUME" that im doing a simple rotor/pad upgrade.....like i said last time, don't assume stuff. I will be doing a 6-piston brembo upgrade. 13.5" rotors up front, 11.5" out back. I've been told that stock rims should work. Now as for how im getting it for free, our school has a sponsored drag car (i believe each Lincoln Tech has a sponsored car), hell we installed 4-wheel steering on i believe a 240sx without paying for parts, and since we do it ourselves the labor is free.



As for it being a "import tuner list"....name something un-needed or classifiable as rice in there...no seriously go ahead and try to do it. Oh too bad you couldn't. And why not? This list has gone through scrutiny time and time again all due to research on my own behalf, this is the first time i reached out for the public's opinion on what is missing.



Now to you talking about my budget....dont ASSUME stuff, seriously. Read my post again and you'll see how i am getting the money. I have a truck to sell, i have a job, i have a sound system to sell. I'm also planning on buying the car with a blown engine, these can usually be had for $5k, hell i've been involved on some "almost" purchases of those exact type of vehicles.



Also which reliability mods am i missing here? Let's see collant system i replaced, vaccuum hoses are a given even though there won't be many due to the non-sequential conversion, fuel has been taken care of with a PFC to manage it and larger injectors and a modified fuel rail, the engine will be completely rebuilt with new housings and the whole shablam, The exhaust will be replaced with a DP and MP from top speed and a dual tip CB for RB.... Can you name me some more reliability mods other then a hood for cooling (which, granted, almost slipped my mind)



You gave me input, so i guess this is my output, do not take offense to what is said but when you come in my topic and tell me what im doing is wrong i'm not exactly going to take it nicely.



so again, g'day sir.



kevin.



edit: also before you mention the 4-puck not being streetable even vosko agrees it is streetable.

Yea I was considering block off plates because i'll be removing the cat so no need for the rest of the emissions ****. I was gonna talk to amp who i believe made his own, someone made their own i've actually been looking for their name lol.



My gauges are going to be simple D-Series Black Face Defi gauges. The only reason why i didn't list the EGT and A/f gauges was because 1) i don't think i want an EGT gauge 2) I'm hoping to use the "build it yourself" wideband o2 that someone posted a link to. They send you a kit and you put it together, it's not super cheap but it's cheaper then a brand name wideband (although it's from the same people who make the brand name ones, this is simply their alternative company) and overall it's more effective then an A/F gauge.



Oil pressure and Oil Temp are definitely gauges I will need to add to my list though, no idea how they slipped my mind lol.



Tires I'll choose when i have the car and everything on it, in case a sale or whatever is going on, i will be keeping stock rims though. As for suspension I'm still in the research stage as far as that goes, the car's aim is obviously the drag strip so I have to find one properly suited as well as adding in trailing arms, etc. Now when it comes to the Rear Strut Tower bari was half-considering fabrication of a three-point bar that i mentioned to someone who was creating a rear bar with harness attachment points on it...gotta search for the topic in 3rd gen discussion as i forget who it was https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png. Ignition i'm probably going with MSD with a setup like vosko with about 3 of them in there. They've always worked nicely and installed easily for me before so i'll stick by them....however again no idea why i didn't list that ****. So thank you for your suggestions you caught something si missed yet definitely needed.



As for court I have court again on monday as a "status conference" gonna tell my lawyer to try and talk my sentence down to maybe just straight parole or something because rumor is the guys who actually did it one will be out in august and the other one is getting 9 months of parole....so we shall see. The only offer on the table atm is 7 years in prison with 85% served which factors out to just about 6 years total in jail. Thanks for your concern thouggh, it is welcomed.



kevin.

lol actually this just in that chart with 412rwhp on those twins was only at 16.5psi....the final production is running non-seq with max boost hitting 20psi



imagine the power, vroom vroom. (im a bit behind because most of the info has been on the other forum)



oh and the thing that SPO has (the guy who ran that chart) that i havent listed as something on my list is 850cc primary injectors, and he's only running 1300cc secondaries. Still not sure if ill switch primaries... more research here i come.



kevin.

There IS an ACT S/S clutch for third gen, also known as the street/strip. This is the clutch many of the people on the forum with modified twins, or small single turbos are using.. and it is rated at a hair over 400ft/lbs. The extreme does cost less like you said, but just because it cost less does not mean it is a better value. I don't see how not choosing a truly streetable clutch over something that chatters and rattles your bones is an obvious choice, but it all depends on your tolerance level and application. On even the BNR turbos I can't imagine someone hitting 400ft/lbs, but I am welcome to being proven wrong. Personally I have had puck clutches before and they are terrible on the street, especially with a lightened flywheel.. they chatter like hell and are very on/off.

And anyone who opts for a 4 puck clutch with only mid 200's torque is really silly, why cause more pain for yourself and wear to your drivetrain if you don't need to..



I think you need to calm down a little bit and listen to what people have to say, most of us have experience owning and modifying the car so it would benefit you to take some positive criticism. If people are coming in and telling what you are doing wrong maybe you should listen before you go off, after all that is why you started the topic is for people's input right? You can't except everyone to come in here and tell your setup is perfect, except criticism and deal with it.



Matt

Sigh



Maybe we start over - What is the purpose of the car? Street use? 1/4 mile? Road Race? Everything (LOL)



That dyno doesnt look anywhere NEAR 470 RWHP, but I could be wrong, my eyes are going, not to mention you didnt address the fact that the clutch will hold torque instead of horsepower - seems this chart is down on torque too, which AGAIN shows the point i was trying to make, the S/S will be fine, IMHO. Lots of assumptions on the extra power those turbos will make...

I did misread, When you were changing to a unsprung puck clutch, but the point remains the same.. hell you can put a 4-puck in a geo metro, but whats the point?

You have obviously never driven a puck clutch. I have a 4-puck in my race neon and it is a bitch to drive on the street. But, again, your opinion of streetable and mine I'm sure will differ. I would I bet I am older than you too...



When you said "upgrade brakes" to me that meant pads,rotors, lines.. you never said anything about ADDING bigger calipers and larger rotors. Now that I look back, I did not see ANY brake upgrades in the first list you have gone through "time and time again"

Stock rims on a 13.5" rotor? LOL :bigthumg:



As far as you import tuner list goes - WTF is a "Blitz type R BOV:? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif Noone at Blitz USA or Blitz Japan has ever heard of it?

How about a fuel filter? or lines for that matter? Or are you using the stock supply/return lines? What about a fuel pressure regulator? What size fuel pump? Just going to leave stock suspension on it too? heh Strut Tower bars as the only suspension mod? heh typical Hondatech.



Don't recall ever mentioning your budget, just asked if you had considered it. hell for all I know you could have millions (maybe thats why you are going to jail?) Re-read my sentence, here it is for reference-



"It appeared it was a lot more name dropping for "see what my rx-7 has - bling bling" as opposed to actually thinking out your position, budget and desires/requirements/purpose of the vehicle."



Doesnt seem like I mentioned an amount, but Im glad you did read the post https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png Good luck finding a blown up FD in decent shape for $5k - perhaps the market in Jersey is better.



Very nice that you have a place that will perform thousands of dollars (literally) of labor for you for free. Caveat Emptor, you get what you pay for. Are they going to tune it for you for free too?



Yeah you have the reliability mods there, but the fact remains YOU DONT EVEN HAVE THE CAR YET. How can you possibly know what systems are inadequate for your needs? You are a classic "bench racer" my friend. Upgrading a car you dont have with tons of performance parts you read about.



Renew your subscriptions to Import Tuner and Super Street - they will have all the tech advice you need. Perhaps you can make the readers rides page!



I think I'm with Sinful 7 on this, send me your address, I'll send you a big-ol "Type-R" sticker to drape over the hood and fenders. And those illuminated wiper nozzles. No charge, so your budget stays intact https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

There's no need to bust his balls man... This forum is for people to HELP eachother. Not to see who's smarter.



Lots of youngsters and elders make wish lists, and the reality of actually getting everything falls short when they actually see the downtime involved. Most people would rather drive it than see it sit. That and the cars ****** fast to begin with, so modding happens a bit slower.



I had the same list. I started with reliability though, as a mid-high 13 second car is still fast in my book.





And I have a type-R sticker... On the windshield. JDM baby. Christ, leave those jokes in the club-si forum.

With 470rwhp you might want to change your stock LSD and axles, especially if your going to race.

Good point.



I can't even see where you would need 470 in the street... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I agree 9BASE3 - It may have come out harsh - My apologies. I lose patience sometimes.



But when a person is asking for advice, and they shoot down EVERYTHING an experienced person offers - because they know better - well then, it doesn't seem like they are asking for advice, more for acceptance and praise... And I cant praise the uneducated. Thats one of the main problems with the world today - tolerance of ignorance.



I wasn't insinuating I was smarter - Just a lot more experienced with rotary engines and RX-7's in general -

I have owned 7 Rx-7's (raced 5), and used to be sales manager at Racing Beat for a couple of years, not to mention 12 years of jobs in the performance/import/tuning industry.



Sorry about the Type-R comment - that was dickish

1: It's cool man. We really need your help in the forums. The more experience, the better. We've all lost our patience before... Believe me. I've gone stone-age on a few newbs asking about reliability and how long till rebuilds..



2: Agreed.



3: We've all done that one! My reply was just as dickish!





Welcome to the forum! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

1) The car will be focused on 1/4 mile with the occasional race with my friends 1/4 mile only cars on the highway or wherever when we feel like making videos. I will have a beater car for whenever i feel like driving, honestly at first i wanted a daily driving FD, but i'd rather keep the miels low and just beat on it lol haha.



2) If you read what i said it is 412rwhp without clipped compressor wheels (factor in about 15 more hp) and with completely pig rich tuning (a safe 15-20hp more can be taken in tuning), and at 16.5psi as opposed to the 20psi that the final version of the turbos is running. You can then see where 470rwhp is possible. I swear BNR posted a 470rwhp chart but i could be wrong, i think i even read r_xplicit talk about the 470rwhp BNR twins.



3) I'm not buying the car to drive around like an old man in a corvette, if i have to do some work to shift with a 4 puck i'm fine with that, it's not a show car.



4) Who cares if you're older, thats like saying i'm taller, which I probably am. It holds no weight as to ho9w knowledgeable you are about cars. Quite honestly i would be ashamed to make such a statement no matter what my age. You are the type of person that hurts any type of "community" by stating you're older shows you think you're superior, well guess you you'll just die before me thats all that your age matters to me.



5) As i said i was told that the brembo kit works with stock rims, if i eventually discover it won't i'll switch rims or go to a smaller kit, no big deal.



6) Ok again a mistake on my part it isn't a Blitz Type R BOV, it's a GReddy. Just because it says Type R doesn't mean it is rice, would you like me to leave the turbos unprotected? It's a standard longevity issue, honestly i HATE the sound of BOV going off left and right, but you have to do what you have to do.



7) You finally give me useful knowledge with the fuel filter and such info....although you forget i mentioned a walbro fuel pump in my original post. You could've simply listed this info at the beginning instead of trying to ridicule the topic. But i forgot you're the old and wise almighty annoying dude.



8) Guess the USA market rocks because so far I've seen/been involved in cars for that price in the condition i mention in Maryland and quite a few other states, including one in NJ. I'm also in contact with a guy who has a rolling chassis for $2k. Trying to figure out if it's worth it having to pay for the trans and new engine just to have the engine rebuilt when i get it.



9) Wow you're old age is really making you senile. I DO THE WORK MYSELF. I go to school at Lincoln Tech, an automotive technical school. We do anything and everything on our own cars in a state of the art level shop. As far as the tuning AGAIN you missed the boat, BNR will be sending me their finely tuned PFC Map for their turbos, the map they will be sending is tuned to a car with close to the same mods as I have here except he has 850cc primaries and 1300cc secondaries.



10) I prove you wrong about the reliability mods and what do you do? You don't admit YOUR wrong you go back to the same worn out topic about me not having the car, you're definitely getting senile.



11) How about this you pay for a subscription for super street for me, and I'll get you a giant catalog of nice senior citizens homes since you're sooo old and wise my mighty master.



12) You can call me whatever you want, but once i have this car done you'll see me at your house parked out front standing on the roof of my car pissing on your cars literally. You're an insult to everyone on this board for your lack of even a decent amount of respect and your complete uselessness when it comes to assisting a fellow rotary fan.



You sir have permission to bite the big one,

kevin.

ya know what i dont even have time for this stupid ****, I was looking for real feedback and instead i get some crotchy old people attacking me, and you people say the other forum is ******* communist.



I'm done with this topic, and personally i think this is the complete opposite of what nopistons is. This topic has turned into a ******* communist forum topic now. So yea we so need more of the old guy.



kevin.

If he hadn't talked down to me like I'd never seen a car before then yes I would consider my reaction to be overboard. But hell he came in and basically tried to rip apart what i had to say talking down to me and acting as though he was god because he was born first.



I've taken in everyone elses responses nicely and made additions to my written list, they were all stated nicely and with reasons, and they gave me respect at least.



He acts ike i wouldnt know the difference between an rx7 and a vette or something. I have no time to deal with senile old men.



kevin.

Wow we finally find out you are building a drag car - then streetability shouldn't be an issue right? It won't be registered or driven on the street at all?



Attacking you? Talked down to you? If I had a nickel for every time someone asked me these questions, I wouldn't need a job.. I asked a couple of questions to you, and then realized you don't have the car. No Point in me helping someone that may never well own the vehicle in question. Seems like you are already getting some bad advice on the buildup, thought I could save you some hassles





Here for the benefit of those people who are just joining us, is my FIRST post, the one before you got your ass up on your shoulders...





"Too Weak? you are planning to make more than 400 ft/lbs of torque? Please, tell us how, especially running twins...

Although I guess being able to say ACT XTREME clutch makes it seem like its faster



I'd move the downpipe, radiator and AST WAY up on your list...



And add brakes - why do people try to double the horsepower of the car, yet feel the stock brakes are sufficient?



I just reread your post - you don't even have an RX-7?



Bench racing ROCKS "



Nothing was insulting (except I misconstrued when you said puck clutch vs Xtreme - My bad, and I believe I apologized for this earlier), everything was true and realistic. I want to know how you are making that torque from the stock turbo housings. Im sure a lot of people would like the secret too. I suggested you do the reliability mods first. You had nothing listed about brakes in the first post, that was ADVICE. i then realized you dont have the car... Boy watch me get flamed when I jump on a Ferrari (Or any performance car) forum and talk about the upgrades I am going to do to a car I don't have...









Still waiting for this "470rwhp" dyno chart to materialize . Not to mention the whole discussion was regarding a clutches ability to hold TORQUE, or have you not gotten to that part in your class yet?





Mail order tuning? Nice - search the boards about how successful this is



If you read my post, I asked what SIZE fuel pump.. Do you even know your flow requirements?.. I read where you said you are getting the Wal-Mart pump... Jeez man you are really on the defensive



hehe try that 4-puck on the street - Go ahead. nothing like looking like an ass cause you stall the car in traffic, or revving it up to 3krpms to slip for the launch



Prove me wrong on reliability mods? Ummm OK - I need some of that NJ weed, cause its obvious you are spun - where exactly did this happen.

When I mentioned reliability mods, I was thinking A) you actually own the car first. B) you were going to drive it a little before you immediately tore into it.. I did not realize the minute you get an FD you will strip the chassis and rebuild EVERYTHING without even driving it first.. Silly me, what was I thinking..



The Brembo kit will NOT work with stock wheels. period. End of discussion. Perhaps you could call Brembo USA and ask? I believe Jim Hodgeman is still in charge, I'm sure he can enlighten you - But wait, hes older than you, so he must be senile right?



Then you make a bunch of personal attacks on my age.. lol I'd hardly consider 35 senile, and seeing how I've been driving and modifying cars since before you were born, you might rethink your attitude - I like realism.. I thought I knew everything at one time also, funny, I was about your age too- reality is a bitter pill



I am glad you are in an Automotive Tech School - Proves my point about how you feel you know everything already, and truly were not asking for advice, merely looking for Kudos on your "research"..



I need to move to the east coast, I have never seen FD's go for that cheap here in California, even with fire damage.



LOL you come on here, asking for ADVICE, and then condemn anyone that doesn't think your plan is foolproof..



I was trying to give the benefit of my YEARS of experience in modification and automobile performance enhancements- I'm sorry you can't see the difference. You are about to make a lot of mistakes that many people have made....



But apparently, to you, everything with your list is perfect (and the labor is free) and your RX-7 will be the baddest car around due to your Bench Racing and the fact that you are in Automotive School



Oh and your last comment, about pissing on my car I think sums you up to a "T" - Just another ricer kid who saw F&F too many times and wishes he could be badass like Vin...



Throw as much "RESEARCH" as you want into your car - Bring it - I'd bet you good money my Neon (yes, a NEON) would smoke you so bad, I wouldn't even have to warm up the RX-7..





Good luck with your project Kevin- I look forward to reading about your progress



And don't drop the soap... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png









P.S. OK THAT was a joke, or are you gonna get your panties in a wad over that too?

[*insert overly wordy response here in which half of it wouldnt be read anyway, and the other half misconstrued*]



kevin.