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SilverSeven 09-16-2005 02:23 PM

[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Sep 14 2005, 05:58 PM']the fd looks better, and its faster, but the rx8 handles way way better,

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Having driven both, I couldn't disagree more with saying the 8 handles better, so I'm curious what it is about it that makes you say that.



In my opinion, that 8 is easier to go fast, and much less work, but the overall handling doesn't do it for me. And to be clear, the FD should be faster through the corners if you know what you're doing. Everyting I have heard says the RX-8 does 0.89 on the skidpad, and the FD was 0.98, if I'm not mistaken.



So what's your mind on the matter?

FC3SDrifter 09-16-2005 04:06 PM

FD .99 g on the skid pad. The rx-8 is like what 210 pounds heavier of course it doesn't haddle better and don't forget that big gap that the doors leave in the rx8 meaning a less stiff chassis than the rx7.

j9fd3s 09-18-2005 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by SilverSeven' post='759541 (Post 666535)
The RX8 has a lot of wheel hop during hard acceleration from a stand still. And everybody knows the RX7 is the ultimate performer.



yeah we tried burnouts last week, it just hops. fd hops too. 1st gen is the best burnout machine

neit_jnf 09-19-2005 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by FC3SDrifter' post='759570' date='Sep 16 2005, 01:06 PM

FD .99 g on the skid pad. The rx-8 is like what 210 pounds heavier of course it doesn't haddle better and don't forget that big gap that the doors leave in the rx8 meaning a less stiff chassis than the rx7.





Believe it or not the RX-8 chassis is stiffer

FC3SDrifter 09-20-2005 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by neit_jnf' post='760354' date='Sep 19 2005, 11:55 AM

Believe it or not the RX-8 chassis is stiffer



Thats right the rx8 got that center beam. I still believe the 3rd gen rx7 is a better performer, has a greater potencial and with a change in advanced(vs the old stock ones that the car came with) tires the FD can go well over 1.0g with BFgoodrich G-force tires perhaps. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Il RX8 lI 09-20-2005 01:40 PM

All I know is this: the FD has been around a decade and some change longer than the 8. It's had a lot more time to have aftermarket parts developed for it, is now cheaper to actually buy, and is lighter. I don't really know what the potential of the 8 is considering the most powerful one (outside of drag racing, that I've seen) was powered by a 13b-REW. I can't really justify modifying a $36,000 RX-8 (with a warranty) when I've got a '94 R2 (that comes out of the box quicker) in near-perfect condition for $14,500. Now, when it comes time to retire my RX-8 (warranty expires) I'll start looking into parts for it, since 4 years is a good amount of time for developers to make more parts for it.

jlogins 09-22-2005 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by APE RX7' post='758035' date='Sep 13 2005, 03:36 AM

I sold my RX7 today! ($34,350). https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif . I thought the price was good, I'm planning on spending the money on my WRX. It has already posted a 11.1 on street tyres so should be very impressive with a bit more cash on it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif .

Who thinks I should spend the money on another RX7? One that is a bit more streetable. And who thinks I should spend it on the Rex? Just curious to know what you guys think. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/unsure.png



BS



At the end of the day the RX-8 is ugly as hell and would be owned by any FD driver. The only thing good about the 8 is the mpg. Otherwise what the point.

Il RX8 lI 09-22-2005 11:48 PM

So you're saying I can own my own car with my other?

Bobfish 09-27-2005 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='760097' date='Sep 18 2005, 10:43 PM

the 8 is way easier to drive, plus its still fast, without the power advantage = handles better.

What?!!! how does less power make it handle better?



Sure if your a total tard and cant drive...more power makes no beans on handling unless you cant control your right foot!



The way i see it is that Mazda have taken a great car, light, high powered, low and stiff, two seater, and replaced it with another car that is larger, heavier, has less power, more seats, higher up on the road and softend up a bit.



Either they made a bad replacement, or it wasnt supposed to be a replacement.



I think its option 2, and you cant really say which car is better - because it depends what you look at. Sportscar buyers look at all the qualties of the FD, where as family car buyers may be tempted to buy an RX8 for the "sporty" side of it.



I see the RX8 as a middle aged compromise for a sportscar - which is an excellent market for Mazda to go into - because there are no other cars in that sector at the moment. Had it have done 30mpg the RX8 im sure would be one of the most sucesful cars on the road!



They are slow though...i watched one do a 17 second quarter the other day, right after i did a 13.8 in my standard FD.

j9fd3s 09-27-2005 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Bobfish' post='763399' date='Sep 27 2005, 07:54 AM

What?!!! how does less power make it handle better?



Sure if your a total tard and cant drive...more power makes no beans on handling unless you cant control your right foot!



The way i see it is that Mazda have taken a great car, light, high powered, low and stiff, two seater, and replaced it with another car that is larger, heavier, has less power, more seats, higher up on the road and softend up a bit.



Either they made a bad replacement, or it wasnt supposed to be a replacement.



I think its option 2, and you cant really say which car is better - because it depends what you look at. Sportscar buyers look at all the qualties of the FD, where as family car buyers may be tempted to buy an RX8 for the "sporty" side of it.



I see the RX8 as a middle aged compromise for a sportscar - which is an excellent market for Mazda to go into - because there are no other cars in that sector at the moment. Had it have done 30mpg the RX8 im sure would be one of the most sucesful cars on the road!



They are slow though...i watched one do a 17 second quarter the other day, right after i did a 13.8 in my standard FD.



lol sorry thats not what i meant. if we took a stock fd and a stock rx8 to the track, id prolly post better laptimes in the rx8. the rx8 is easier to drive, and its still fast, despite it not having the power of the fd. if you put a REALLY good driver in the fd its fast, but most of the time an na fc can keep up except for the straights.


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