RX7 FD TT VS Skyline R32 GT-R VS Supra MKIV TT (the last gen)
06-03-2007, 10:47 PM
#11
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being from new zealand, i would never have a skyline, i would drive it off a cliff 
they are everywhere
dont see to many supra's but yea i dont like them, never have never will.
and yea ive got a rota as a heart so rx7 it is.
but like someone else said, go drive them all and make up your own mind on what you want.
dont see to many supra's but yea i dont like them, never have never will.
and yea ive got a rota as a heart so rx7 it is.
but like someone else said, go drive them all and make up your own mind on what you want.
06-05-2007, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by d1rx7' post='873976' date='Jun 3 2007, 07:47 PM
being from new zealand, i would never have a skyline, i would drive it off a cliff
dont see to many supra's but yea i dont like them, never have never will.
and yea ive got a rota as a heart so rx7 it is.
but like someone else said, go drive them all and make up your own mind on what you want.
I had a Skyline R32 GTS-T until very recently (Just sold it and bought an RX-7 FD). The skyline is a VERY nice car, make no mistake. And they are not as rare as you might think, consider that skylines are legal to import into Canada so parts can be bought from Canadian cars that have gotten into wrecks. Also you'd be surprised at the number of 240SX parts that work with the Skyline R32, as well as Fairlady Z32 parts.
But overall I think that the RX-7FD is a better sports car driving experience, while the Skyline in any shape or form is a WAY better GT car. It's heavier, it's a little more predictable in most cases, and the engine is possibly one of the most solid tuning engines ever built.
I have no experience with the supra.
You cannot go wrong with either a skyline or an RX7. The only problems the FD has is the reliability. If you're an FD owner you need to have deep pockets or you need to be ok with turning your own wrenches. There is a lot that can go wrong on a twin SEQUENTIAL turbo, with a rotary engine. It's kind of like the odds are stacked against it. But still a very good concept even if a little higher maintenance than many other engines. It's a sports car, the maintenance obligations come with the car!
06-11-2007, 07:22 PM
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Ok, the 7 for me.
two weeks ago in Reno i passed a race prepped Ferrari 355 on the track. My car is running seqentials still, and about 320 RWHP. Yes the driver was not the best but i doubt the Supra could have done it.
I have an STi as well so while 4WD is very nice esp in the rain but i prefer the driving experience of the RX7, and the subie is no slouch but it is what i like to drive, track and be seen in.
two weeks ago in Reno i passed a race prepped Ferrari 355 on the track. My car is running seqentials still, and about 320 RWHP. Yes the driver was not the best but i doubt the Supra could have done it.
I have an STi as well so while 4WD is very nice esp in the rain but i prefer the driving experience of the RX7, and the subie is no slouch but it is what i like to drive, track and be seen in.
06-20-2007, 01:42 PM
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WOW
I went through this! When I sold my previous car I had about 20k to work with. That would buy me a decent R32 GTR (with no money left over) A Supra, or an FD. My friends all wanted me to get a Skyline. It is the apidimy of coolness (and performance) right? I have found the GTR a bit heavy for my liking, I would rather have less power and less weight than more power and more weight. (you can always add power anyways weight is hard to take off) I think its because we don't have Skylines in the US, what you cant have or see is brought up to a higher level. Just like the giant in "Big Fish" something thats imagined is always exaggerated. Not that the Skyline isn't a good car, its a great car but no car is perfect. In the US people don't buy skylines to race, they buy them to be cool. An FD will take a Skyline in the mountains. It is smaller and more nimble. There are conditions though where the Skyline would take the FD though I don't want to get into this too deeply. The Supra is a nice car, I was never that attracted to it though. I was at a Toyota dealership once and they had a pretty black one. It is just so BIG! I would have drove it but it was an automatic. I didn't want to waste the dealers time and my time.
I will have an FD when I move to Japan and my bf a R32. R32's are a dime a dozen there, you can fit 4 people in it and it doesn't require the maitenence the FD does. Although rotary engines are a dime a dozen there as well I am sure my FD will be down every so often and I may need to go somewhere I can't (or don't want to) take the bus.
I went through this! When I sold my previous car I had about 20k to work with. That would buy me a decent R32 GTR (with no money left over) A Supra, or an FD. My friends all wanted me to get a Skyline. It is the apidimy of coolness (and performance) right? I have found the GTR a bit heavy for my liking, I would rather have less power and less weight than more power and more weight. (you can always add power anyways weight is hard to take off) I think its because we don't have Skylines in the US, what you cant have or see is brought up to a higher level. Just like the giant in "Big Fish" something thats imagined is always exaggerated. Not that the Skyline isn't a good car, its a great car but no car is perfect. In the US people don't buy skylines to race, they buy them to be cool. An FD will take a Skyline in the mountains. It is smaller and more nimble. There are conditions though where the Skyline would take the FD though I don't want to get into this too deeply. The Supra is a nice car, I was never that attracted to it though. I was at a Toyota dealership once and they had a pretty black one. It is just so BIG! I would have drove it but it was an automatic. I didn't want to waste the dealers time and my time.
I will have an FD when I move to Japan and my bf a R32. R32's are a dime a dozen there, you can fit 4 people in it and it doesn't require the maitenence the FD does. Although rotary engines are a dime a dozen there as well I am sure my FD will be down every so often and I may need to go somewhere I can't (or don't want to) take the bus.
06-21-2007, 04:54 AM
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To sum up:
Supra: Big, Japanese monster waiting to be unleashed with your wallet. Endless aftermarket JDM parts available. Think of it as the muscle car. Easy power, RWD, hope you don't have to take a corner too fast on stock suspension. Relatively inexpensive imported from Japan.
Skyline R32 GTR: Smaller, but with a very heavy (600lbs over the GTS-T) over-engineered and to this day, state of the art 4wd system. Someof the best stock ECU tuning out there (5 automatically adjusting fuel maps depending on how you drive). Thankfully this car comes with a piston engine that can run into the 700hp range without having to swap out internals. Again, with the wllet in hand, ever more endless JDM parts available for this car. More specifically, all R32, R33, R34 RB26DETT parts are swappable to an extent that's 16 years of RB tech out there. Oh, and almost any competent mechanic can work on it. Think of this as the tuner car. GTR's are still very desirable in Japan, finding a no accident car for sale is difficult for a good price. Anything over 50k on the engine, it has to be rebuilt, no questions asked.
FD: Smallest. RWD, 50/50 weight distribution. Finicky to say the least. But out and out a true driver's car, get in turn the key, and turn hot laps (not too hot!!!). Good luck finding a mechanic to work on it, and even more luck to you if you wish to diagnose a porblem yourself involving the turbo system. Far less potential for HP's than the previous two, but way less weight, and with only suspension upgrades you can easily take on a GTR with many power adders. You will be forced to work on it yourself (which I think is what really sells this car to us rotor heads young and old), which if you'd like to join our little club, is not a problem. Oh and, this car was available for sale in Japan for 10 years. To the end it was contending with some real heavyweights (don't believe me? search r34 or fd3s lap battle on youtube, find the one with tsukuba circuit 5 lap battle) and there are a more than a few aftemarket parts out there for it. And even a few dedicated JDM rotary tuners (FEED, RE-A, Scoote, R-Magic, AutoExe). Think of this as the exotic car. You can pick a JDM FD up for around the same price as the Supra.
oh, and the guy who passed a 355? I'm told by my boss, (who owns a Porsche, Lotus and Lamborghini dealership) who has spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of numerous Ferrari's, that the car is quite gutless. Not to rain on your parade, but I believe his words were "That car pulls like a sewing machine".
Supra: Big, Japanese monster waiting to be unleashed with your wallet. Endless aftermarket JDM parts available. Think of it as the muscle car. Easy power, RWD, hope you don't have to take a corner too fast on stock suspension. Relatively inexpensive imported from Japan.
Skyline R32 GTR: Smaller, but with a very heavy (600lbs over the GTS-T) over-engineered and to this day, state of the art 4wd system. Someof the best stock ECU tuning out there (5 automatically adjusting fuel maps depending on how you drive). Thankfully this car comes with a piston engine that can run into the 700hp range without having to swap out internals. Again, with the wllet in hand, ever more endless JDM parts available for this car. More specifically, all R32, R33, R34 RB26DETT parts are swappable to an extent that's 16 years of RB tech out there. Oh, and almost any competent mechanic can work on it. Think of this as the tuner car. GTR's are still very desirable in Japan, finding a no accident car for sale is difficult for a good price. Anything over 50k on the engine, it has to be rebuilt, no questions asked.
FD: Smallest. RWD, 50/50 weight distribution. Finicky to say the least. But out and out a true driver's car, get in turn the key, and turn hot laps (not too hot!!!). Good luck finding a mechanic to work on it, and even more luck to you if you wish to diagnose a porblem yourself involving the turbo system. Far less potential for HP's than the previous two, but way less weight, and with only suspension upgrades you can easily take on a GTR with many power adders. You will be forced to work on it yourself (which I think is what really sells this car to us rotor heads young and old), which if you'd like to join our little club, is not a problem. Oh and, this car was available for sale in Japan for 10 years. To the end it was contending with some real heavyweights (don't believe me? search r34 or fd3s lap battle on youtube, find the one with tsukuba circuit 5 lap battle) and there are a more than a few aftemarket parts out there for it. And even a few dedicated JDM rotary tuners (FEED, RE-A, Scoote, R-Magic, AutoExe). Think of this as the exotic car. You can pick a JDM FD up for around the same price as the Supra.
oh, and the guy who passed a 355? I'm told by my boss, (who owns a Porsche, Lotus and Lamborghini dealership) who has spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of numerous Ferrari's, that the car is quite gutless. Not to rain on your parade, but I believe his words were "That car pulls like a sewing machine".
07-09-2007, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by liddy' post='875746' date='Jun 21 2007, 01:54 AM
To sum up:
Supra: Big, Japanese monster waiting to be unleashed with your wallet. Endless aftermarket JDM parts available. Think of it as the muscle car. Easy power, RWD, hope you don't have to take a corner too fast on stock suspension. Relatively inexpensive imported from Japan.
Skyline R32 GTR: Smaller, but with a very heavy (600lbs over the GTS-T) over-engineered and to this day, state of the art 4wd system. Someof the best stock ECU tuning out there (5 automatically adjusting fuel maps depending on how you drive). Thankfully this car comes with a piston engine that can run into the 700hp range without having to swap out internals. Again, with the wllet in hand, ever more endless JDM parts available for this car. More specifically, all R32, R33, R34 RB26DETT parts are swappable to an extent that's 16 years of RB tech out there. Oh, and almost any competent mechanic can work on it. Think of this as the tuner car. GTR's are still very desirable in Japan, finding a no accident car for sale is difficult for a good price. Anything over 50k on the engine, it has to be rebuilt, no questions asked.
FD: Smallest. RWD, 50/50 weight distribution. Finicky to say the least. But out and out a true driver's car, get in turn the key, and turn hot laps (not too hot!!!). Good luck finding a mechanic to work on it, and even more luck to you if you wish to diagnose a porblem yourself involving the turbo system. Far less potential for HP's than the previous two, but way less weight, and with only suspension upgrades you can easily take on a GTR with many power adders. You will be forced to work on it yourself (which I think is what really sells this car to us rotor heads young and old), which if you'd like to join our little club, is not a problem. Oh and, this car was available for sale in Japan for 10 years. To the end it was contending with some real heavyweights (don't believe me? search r34 or fd3s lap battle on youtube, find the one with tsukuba circuit 5 lap battle) and there are a more than a few aftemarket parts out there for it. And even a few dedicated JDM rotary tuners (FEED, RE-A, Scoote, R-Magic, AutoExe). Think of this as the exotic car. You can pick a JDM FD up for around the same price as the Supra.
oh, and the guy who passed a 355? I'm told by my boss, (who owns a Porsche, Lotus and Lamborghini dealership) who has spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of numerous Ferrari's, that the car is quite gutless. Not to rain on your parade, but I believe his words were "That car pulls like a sewing machine".
Supra: Big, Japanese monster waiting to be unleashed with your wallet. Endless aftermarket JDM parts available. Think of it as the muscle car. Easy power, RWD, hope you don't have to take a corner too fast on stock suspension. Relatively inexpensive imported from Japan.
Skyline R32 GTR: Smaller, but with a very heavy (600lbs over the GTS-T) over-engineered and to this day, state of the art 4wd system. Someof the best stock ECU tuning out there (5 automatically adjusting fuel maps depending on how you drive). Thankfully this car comes with a piston engine that can run into the 700hp range without having to swap out internals. Again, with the wllet in hand, ever more endless JDM parts available for this car. More specifically, all R32, R33, R34 RB26DETT parts are swappable to an extent that's 16 years of RB tech out there. Oh, and almost any competent mechanic can work on it. Think of this as the tuner car. GTR's are still very desirable in Japan, finding a no accident car for sale is difficult for a good price. Anything over 50k on the engine, it has to be rebuilt, no questions asked.
FD: Smallest. RWD, 50/50 weight distribution. Finicky to say the least. But out and out a true driver's car, get in turn the key, and turn hot laps (not too hot!!!). Good luck finding a mechanic to work on it, and even more luck to you if you wish to diagnose a porblem yourself involving the turbo system. Far less potential for HP's than the previous two, but way less weight, and with only suspension upgrades you can easily take on a GTR with many power adders. You will be forced to work on it yourself (which I think is what really sells this car to us rotor heads young and old), which if you'd like to join our little club, is not a problem. Oh and, this car was available for sale in Japan for 10 years. To the end it was contending with some real heavyweights (don't believe me? search r34 or fd3s lap battle on youtube, find the one with tsukuba circuit 5 lap battle) and there are a more than a few aftemarket parts out there for it. And even a few dedicated JDM rotary tuners (FEED, RE-A, Scoote, R-Magic, AutoExe). Think of this as the exotic car. You can pick a JDM FD up for around the same price as the Supra.
oh, and the guy who passed a 355? I'm told by my boss, (who owns a Porsche, Lotus and Lamborghini dealership) who has spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of numerous Ferrari's, that the car is quite gutless. Not to rain on your parade, but I believe his words were "That car pulls like a sewing machine".
thank you guys! all of your posts were really enlighting, however I still don't know which one to choose LOL!....the RX7 is small and sexy..but I don't really have any place to work on a car..nor the time to do it..the supra is quite expensive..I could only get the automatic TT or the Manual N/A with the money I got..and the R32..well It's to common..too big...too..."unoriginal"..
07-09-2007, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Feel-IX' post='877424' date='Jul 8 2007, 10:49 PM
thank you guys! all of your posts were really enlighting, however I still don't know which one to choose LOL!....the RX7 is small and sexy..but I don't really have any place to work on a car..nor the time to do it..the supra is quite expensive..I could only get the automatic TT or the Manual N/A with the money I got..and the R32..well It's to common..too big...too..."unoriginal"..
supra tt m/t should run you about the same as an FD of the same condition... (that is directly out of japan)
07-12-2007, 11:38 PM
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come to Australia and you will tire of supras and skylines within a week. Oz has become a dumping ground, im not exaggerating too, they are literally everywhere.
We're still relatively fd free because of the rotary reputation and the exorbiant price tags.
We're still relatively fd free because of the rotary reputation and the exorbiant price tags.
07-14-2007, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by liddy' post='875746' date='Jun 21 2007, 01:54 AM
To sum up:
Supra: Big, Japanese monster waiting to be unleashed with your wallet. Endless aftermarket JDM parts available. Think of it as the muscle car. Easy power, RWD, hope you don't have to take a corner too fast on stock suspension. Relatively inexpensive imported from Japan.
Skyline R32 GTR: Smaller, but with a very heavy (600lbs over the GTS-T) over-engineered and to this day, state of the art 4wd system. Someof the best stock ECU tuning out there (5 automatically adjusting fuel maps depending on how you drive). Thankfully this car comes with a piston engine that can run into the 700hp range without having to swap out internals. Again, with the wllet in hand, ever more endless JDM parts available for this car. More specifically, all R32, R33, R34 RB26DETT parts are swappable to an extent that's 16 years of RB tech out there. Oh, and almost any competent mechanic can work on it. Think of this as the tuner car. GTR's are still very desirable in Japan, finding a no accident car for sale is difficult for a good price. Anything over 50k on the engine, it has to be rebuilt, no questions asked.
FD: Smallest. RWD, 50/50 weight distribution. Finicky to say the least. But out and out a true driver's car, get in turn the key, and turn hot laps (not too hot!!!). Good luck finding a mechanic to work on it, and even more luck to you if you wish to diagnose a porblem yourself involving the turbo system. Far less potential for HP's than the previous two, but way less weight, and with only suspension upgrades you can easily take on a GTR with many power adders. You will be forced to work on it yourself (which I think is what really sells this car to us rotor heads young and old), which if you'd like to join our little club, is not a problem. Oh and, this car was available for sale in Japan for 10 years. To the end it was contending with some real heavyweights (don't believe me? search r34 or fd3s lap battle on youtube, find the one with tsukuba circuit 5 lap battle) and there are a more than a few aftemarket parts out there for it. And even a few dedicated JDM rotary tuners (FEED, RE-A, Scoote, R-Magic, AutoExe). Think of this as the exotic car. You can pick a JDM FD up for around the same price as the Supra.
oh, and the guy who passed a 355? I'm told by my boss, (who owns a Porsche, Lotus and Lamborghini dealership) who has spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of numerous Ferrari's, that the car is quite gutless. Not to rain on your parade, but I believe his words were "That car pulls like a sewing machine".
Supra: Big, Japanese monster waiting to be unleashed with your wallet. Endless aftermarket JDM parts available. Think of it as the muscle car. Easy power, RWD, hope you don't have to take a corner too fast on stock suspension. Relatively inexpensive imported from Japan.
Skyline R32 GTR: Smaller, but with a very heavy (600lbs over the GTS-T) over-engineered and to this day, state of the art 4wd system. Someof the best stock ECU tuning out there (5 automatically adjusting fuel maps depending on how you drive). Thankfully this car comes with a piston engine that can run into the 700hp range without having to swap out internals. Again, with the wllet in hand, ever more endless JDM parts available for this car. More specifically, all R32, R33, R34 RB26DETT parts are swappable to an extent that's 16 years of RB tech out there. Oh, and almost any competent mechanic can work on it. Think of this as the tuner car. GTR's are still very desirable in Japan, finding a no accident car for sale is difficult for a good price. Anything over 50k on the engine, it has to be rebuilt, no questions asked.
FD: Smallest. RWD, 50/50 weight distribution. Finicky to say the least. But out and out a true driver's car, get in turn the key, and turn hot laps (not too hot!!!). Good luck finding a mechanic to work on it, and even more luck to you if you wish to diagnose a porblem yourself involving the turbo system. Far less potential for HP's than the previous two, but way less weight, and with only suspension upgrades you can easily take on a GTR with many power adders. You will be forced to work on it yourself (which I think is what really sells this car to us rotor heads young and old), which if you'd like to join our little club, is not a problem. Oh and, this car was available for sale in Japan for 10 years. To the end it was contending with some real heavyweights (don't believe me? search r34 or fd3s lap battle on youtube, find the one with tsukuba circuit 5 lap battle) and there are a more than a few aftemarket parts out there for it. And even a few dedicated JDM rotary tuners (FEED, RE-A, Scoote, R-Magic, AutoExe). Think of this as the exotic car. You can pick a JDM FD up for around the same price as the Supra.
oh, and the guy who passed a 355? I'm told by my boss, (who owns a Porsche, Lotus and Lamborghini dealership) who has spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of numerous Ferrari's, that the car is quite gutless. Not to rain on your parade, but I believe his words were "That car pulls like a sewing machine".
i've checked the prices with my importer and the supra tt especially the manual 6 speeds is WAY over my price range...a little bit more than twice the price of a rx7 tt in mint condition..lol so I guess that my poll will now be more like "SUPRA N/A VS SKYLINE R32 GTR VS RX7 FD TT"....if some of you want to correct their answers considering this new factor lol...
08-19-2007, 08:46 AM
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Come to england where rx-7's are worth about £2. http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/rx7_Cars_W...R34QQsacatZ9801
The weird thing is that they are much rarer than skylines and supras here, but damn they are worth nothing over here anymore, simply because of all teh crap coming from japan
The weird thing is that they are much rarer than skylines and supras here, but damn they are worth nothing over here anymore, simply because of all teh crap coming from japan