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9BASE3 07-23-2003 03:04 PM

Ok... So the plan is:



Nippondenso pump (or similar)

550cc pri / 1300cc sec

Rising rate regulator

stock rails



What I want to do is:



Run steel braided lines from the driver side firewall (where the lines come from under the car) to the FPR and rails.



Anybody have this setup? Can you provide me a list of the required fittings and sizes, lines lengths/sizes and anything else I'll need to piece this together? TIA!

93 R1 07-23-2003 03:08 PM

I wouldn't run 1300's due to the horror stories I've heard about them. Go with 1600's and a different rail.



Don't have the setup yet but when you figure it out let me know;)

9BASE3 07-23-2003 03:13 PM

You know... I just noticed SR has:



1700cc Bosche Injectors



These top feed , low impedence high flow injectors, may be just what you need for your high HP fuel flow needs.



129.00 each! Damn...



I guess I could get these and a rail huh?

93 R1 07-23-2003 03:34 PM

When I get home I'll PM you a place to get injectors from. You can get 2 for that price. They are actually 1680cc, SR must be rounding up the #'s.

vosko 07-23-2003 03:38 PM

i got my injectors for $80 each from precisionte.com . i would go 1600's it's harder to setup but you don't have to worry about them failing!

9BASE3 07-23-2003 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jul 23 2003, 02:38 PM
i got my injectors for $80 each from precisionte.com . i would go 1600's it's harder to setup but you don't have to worry about them failing!

How bout the 1680's Justin mentions?

amp 07-23-2003 03:53 PM

interested on the braided lines as well..

93 R1 07-23-2003 05:23 PM

O.K. since everyone seems to want to know.



Marren fuel injection

www.injector.com they quoted me $75 per injector. I was thinking it was $65 but I just double checked and its $75ea. This is for Bosch low impedance top feed units.

9BASE3 07-23-2003 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by 93 R1' date='Jul 23 2003, 04:23 PM
This is for Bosch low impedance top feed units.

And these are what we want, right?

toddp31 07-23-2003 05:41 PM

I have just started changing my fuel system out from the stock lines before I go and get tuned. I am running 2 walbro in tank to a Y into -8 hard line (cheaper) then when they get to the front I Y them into 2 -6lines(550/ 1600), one to each rail. Then in to the fuel pressure regulator and back into the stock return line. I am still putting it in and am about 50% done, I will post some pictures of what it looks like when I am done. I order about $400 dollars worth of line and fittings from Jegs, but I have some extra fittings. Didn't want to be one fitting short!

IGGER-IKE-EW-FD3S 07-23-2003 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by 93 R1' date='Jul 23 2003, 12:08 PM
I wouldn't run 1300's due to the horror stories I've heard about them. Go with 1600's and a different rail.



Don't have the setup yet but when you figure it out let me know;)

i agree cuz i got the 1600 ^ 550 set up with dual fuel pumps and a regulator that work just fine for my TO4R

Travisty 07-23-2003 05:45 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif but whats with that damn cow sig???

IGGER-IKE-EW-FD3S 07-23-2003 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by IGGER-IKE-EW-FD3S' date='Jul 23 2003, 02:43 PM
[quote name='93 R1' date='Jul 23 2003, 12:08 PM'] I wouldn't run 1300's due to the horror stories I've heard about them. Go with 1600's and a different rail.



Don't have the setup yet but when you figure it out let me know;)

i agree cuz i got the 1600 ^ 550 set up with dual fuel pumps and a regulator that work just fine for my TO4R [/quote]

also if you go with the 1600 >1680cc injectors dont forget to get the resistors to solder in and the new connectors for the injectors

IGGER-IKE-EW-FD3S 07-23-2003 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Travisty' date='Jul 23 2003, 02:45 PM
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif but whats with that damn cow sig???

thats my buddy the moderator messin with me

Travisty 07-23-2003 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by IGGER-IKE-EW-FD3S' date='Jul 23 2003, 05:48 PM
thats my buddy the moderator messin with me

amusing



ok back to the thread that i have no knowledgable input on

IGGER-IKE-EW-FD3S 07-23-2003 05:50 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif by the way can someone mess with dragon as a payback for messing with my signature https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif please https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif please https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

rxrotary2_7 07-23-2003 11:02 PM

i can supply you with

the secondary rail and mounting hardware

2 new 1680cc injectors and the clips

a tapped primary rail (OEM so all you have to do is pop your current injectors in)

ALL the braded line and fittings already assembled

resistors if running a PFC



this will replace your fuel system form the firewall up and back... basicly a bolt on and all you have to supply is a regulator and fuel guage. (i can do that for additional also) takes all the guess work out of the process.

the price for all this is $510 shipped. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

if you want a breakdown

rail= $130

1680cc injectors =$150 (for both)

all needed lines and fittings pre assembled =$220

injector clips = included

resistors already soldered on clips= included...

$10 shipping

total= $510



if you would like the rail anodized any special color just ask. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



BTW, i would need a refundable deposit until i recieve your primary rail. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png





any interest just email me rxrotary2_7@yahoo.com

rxrotary2_7 07-23-2003 11:06 PM

i have top feed primary rails too.... http://www.3rdgenrx7.com/keithsrails.htm

toddp31 07-23-2003 11:08 PM

where were you when I bough mine? It would be nice to get a package deal. Group Buy? Could help alot of people out, if you could support that.

rxrotary2_7 07-23-2003 11:11 PM

i have been around. there are many people with the setup already. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



group buy? i'm down. i would need some money up front if that were to happen just to make sure i dont get burned before going and investing in $1,000,000 worth of crap. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

toddp31 07-23-2003 11:15 PM

You can see if there is any interest, no one likes to get screwed over. Start small with maybe 5 or 10 and see how it goes.

rxrotary2_7 07-23-2003 11:20 PM

not really interested in *seeing how it goes* though... if someone is serious enough to buy the whole deal, i highly doubt that a $200 PRE payment and about a weekish wait is to much to ask. if someone would not be willing to do that then they can fend for themselfs so to speak. i have a good enough reputation of being honest guy between the two boards, ebay, partstrader and just plain people knowing me. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

toddp31 07-23-2003 11:25 PM

I don't want you to get ripped off.

rxrotary2_7 07-24-2003 01:43 AM

oh i know that! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png and i am not trying to rip anyone off... hell rx7.com sells JUST the rail and injectors for $598... BUT no pre assembled lines/fittings that will total out to about $200 easily, no shipping included, i dont believe they include injector clips (about $10 each), the rail design they use will not allow you to upgrade to a top feed primary anytime down the road really....

jspecracer7 07-24-2003 09:12 AM

wow...renewed interest in fuel. This is what I run:



2 stock FD pumps...one for the primary and one for the secondary.



2 1680cc top feed low impedance bosch injectors

2 550cc stock injectors

PPR 2ndary fuel rail with -6 a/n fittings

Stock primary rail tapped with 3/8 npt and -6 a/n fittings

aeroquip fpr(which is also they "Y")

Return line via the stock metal lines that went to the charcoal canister.

Bulk head fitting on the fuel pump assembly as the return.



all -6 and a/n fittings. NEVER had any problems with fuel except for tightening down a/n fittings too tight. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png

9BASE3 07-24-2003 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by rxrotary2_7' date='Jul 23 2003, 10:02 PM
i can supply you with

the secondary rail and mounting hardware

2 new 1680cc injectors and the clips

a tapped primary rail (OEM so all you have to do is pop your current injectors in)

ALL the braded line and fittings already assembled

resistors if running a PFC



this will replace your fuel system form the firewall up and back... basicly a bolt on and all you have to supply is a regulator and fuel guage. (i can do that for additional also) takes all the guess work out of the process.

the price for all this is $510 shipped. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

if you want a breakdown

rail= $130

1680cc injectors =$150 (for both)

all needed lines and fittings pre assembled =$220

injector clips = included

resistors already soldered on clips= included...

$10 shipping

total= $510



if you would like the rail anodized any special color just ask. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



BTW, i would need a refundable deposit until i recieve your primary rail. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png





any interest just email me rxrotary2_7@yahoo.com

Well, I guess I found the man! I knew you did the rails... I guess I should have asked what else you do! Just wondering if there is a regulator you recommend that would be good for this setup, and how much more will that add to the deal.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

jspecracer7 07-24-2003 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by 9BASE3' date='Jul 24 2003, 11:14 PM
[quote name='rxrotary2_7' date='Jul 23 2003, 10:02 PM'] i can supply you with

the secondary rail and mounting hardware

2 new 1680cc injectors and the clips

a tapped primary rail (OEM so all you have to do is pop your current injectors in)

ALL the braded line and fittings already assembled

resistors if running a PFC



this will replace your fuel system form the firewall up and back... basicly a bolt on and all you have to supply is a regulator and fuel guage. (i can do that for additional also) takes all the guess work out of the process.

the price for all this is $510 shipped. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

if you want a breakdown

rail= $130

1680cc injectors =$150 (for both)

all needed lines and fittings pre assembled =$220

injector clips = included

resistors already soldered on clips= included...

$10 shipping

total= $510



if you would like the rail anodized any special color just ask. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



BTW, i would need a refundable deposit until i recieve your primary rail. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png





any interest just email me rxrotary2_7@yahoo.com

Well, I guess I found the man! I knew you did the rails... I guess I should have asked what else you do! Just wondering if there is a regulator you recommend that would be good for this setup, and how much more will that add to the deal.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png [/quote]

go with the aeroquip FPR. when my wastegate line blew off and I boosted 2.6 kilos(that is not a typo btw), my fuel pressure actually held just fine...course my motor didn't but that's another story. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png

9BASE3 07-24-2003 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Jul 24 2003, 08:17 AM
when my wastegate line blew off and I boosted 2.6 kilos

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif



Holy ****!

jspecracer7 07-25-2003 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by 9BASE3' date='Jul 24 2003, 11:25 PM
[quote name='jspecracer7' date='Jul 24 2003, 08:17 AM'] when my wastegate line blew off and I boosted 2.6 kilos

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif



Holy ****! [/quote]

lol...I acutally guessed it was 2.6... My defi gauge reads only to 2.0 kilos boost. The "Peak" needle was actually at "E"...as in P(needle here)AK...lol

Srce 07-25-2003 02:08 AM

Holy **** is right, damn LOL!!!!

fastcarfreak 07-28-2003 12:34 AM

i second that "HOLY ****" what did it sound like?? do the tires chirp at that much boost?

jspecracer7 07-28-2003 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by fastcarfreak' date='Jul 28 2003, 02:34 PM
i second that "HOLY ****" what did it sound like?? do the tires chirp at that much boost?

I was on a roll, I have drag suspension(HKS Hiper D Drag) and had 275 BFG Comp T/A's...tires didn't chirp...but I tell ya what...It was a MEAN SOUNDING SOB that 9 seconds that it lasted...lol

9BASE3 07-28-2003 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Jul 28 2003, 04:15 AM
I was on a roll, I have drag suspension(HKS Hiper D Drag) and had 275 BFG Comp T/A's...tires didn't chirp...but I tell ya what...It was a MEAN SOUNDING SOB that 9 seconds that it lasted...lol

I'm guessing a clean pair of underwear was on order after that run? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

jspecracer7 07-28-2003 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by 9BASE3' date='Jul 28 2003, 11:42 PM
I'm guessing a clean pair of underwear was on order after that run? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

lol...I have that underwear framed!

9BASE3 07-28-2003 08:15 PM

Ok.. I talked to Keith. He's going to set me up the bomb! Haha.. Sorry couldn't resist!



Can't wait to start bolting **** back together!!!

9BASE3 08-19-2003 12:41 PM

Bump for interest. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Fd3BOOST 08-20-2003 07:49 AM

how the **** did i miss this one.



Kieth. I want a set. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png

email me fd3boost@comcast.net



Dave


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