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02-20-2007, 07:36 PM
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i have 2-1600cc, and 2-1000cc injectors. and both are on aftermarket fuel rails. the injectors are Bosch.
i know i need clips for the 1600's to clip in. but do i need clips for the 1000's?????
and i have the PFC ecu, and google.com says i need their ballast resistors for using low reisistance injectors with a high resistance computer application.
so do i need the resistors if im using the PFC? or can the ECU handle it?
i know i need clips for the 1600's to clip in. but do i need clips for the 1000's?????
and i have the PFC ecu, and google.com says i need their ballast resistors for using low reisistance injectors with a high resistance computer application.
so do i need the resistors if im using the PFC? or can the ECU handle it?
02-21-2007, 09:50 AM
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i was gonna stay with stock 550cc injectors for clean idle and nice driving. but i have my TII for that.
and i wanna make around 500-600WHP. and i dont think i can that with 550's
ok, so i need the resistors. but do i need the injector clips? probley so...damnit.
and i wanna make around 500-600WHP. and i dont think i can that with 550's
ok, so i need the resistors. but do i need the injector clips? probley so...damnit.
02-22-2007, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sen2two' post='860251' date='Feb 21 2007, 10:50 AM
i was gonna stay with stock 550cc injectors for clean idle and nice driving. but i have my TII for that.
and i wanna make around 500-600WHP. and i dont think i can that with 550's
ok, so i need the resistors. but do i need the injector clips? probley so...damnit.
well you're switching from side feed injectors to top feed, so yeah, you would need injector clips for the new ones.
so... just curious, i had pipe dreams of 500-600rwhp before, how do you plan on acheiving this, what is your budget, how are you going to keep all that power on the ground, what ECU are you going to be using, who will tune your car?
you're planning to do the 500-600rwhp with the oil cooler sandwitched between your front mount and radiator?
you should save your money and shoot for somewhere between 350-400, that way you'll be able to drive the car and enjoy it before you die or put a second mortgage on your house.
just so you know... boostn7 has acheived 500+/- with just an upgrade of his secondaries to 1680cc
02-22-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FikseRxSeven' post='860527' date='Feb 22 2007, 12:27 PM
well you're switching from side feed injectors to top feed, so yeah, you would need injector clips for the new ones.
so... just curious, i had pipe dreams of 500-600rwhp before, how do you plan on acheiving this, what is your budget, how are you going to keep all that power on the ground, what ECU are you going to be using, who will tune your car?
you're planning to do the 500-600rwhp with the oil cooler sandwitched between your front mount and radiator?
you should save your money and shoot for somewhere between 350-400, that way you'll be able to drive the car and enjoy it before you die or put a second mortgage on your house.
just so you know... boostn7 has acheived 500+/- with just an upgrade of his secondaries to 1680cc
i'm with this guy......seriously save yourself the $ and headaches, and just shoot for ~350-400, the car is plenty fast enough with that. big hp #'s are overrated..... if i could do it all over agian i would, but i'm too far in at this point lol
02-22-2007, 11:50 AM
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well....my goal was 400 at first. but i soon got tired of the average 400. there plenty of hondas running that around here in Orlando.
my set up basicly is:
rebuilt by me, with RA super seals, RA racing apex seal springs, RA rebuild kit, atkins 2mm solid corner seals, Atkins free flow thermal pelet, new rotor bearings, stat. gear bearings, blah, blah, blah....everything....
large street port
T60-1 Precision turbo
1600cc secondary
1000cc primary (got all the clips and resistors now, plus both rails)
PFC with FC Data-logit
and the oil cooler might be placed a little further back than the stock placement now. the way im running the piping gives me room to do so...im gonna be posting a new thread on that in a minute...
I want Gabby from Puerto Rico to tune my car. but he is only here every so often. if not, then most likely Pettit Racing. there only about an hour from me. theres plenty of Rotary tuners around here. i just would like the best...
im thinking of getting a water/alchohol injection system to run high boost on pump gas. i just need more eductaion on this first.
and theres about a 100 other little things like pulleys and **** that add up $$$$$.....what else would you like to know?
this is my first real build on the car. im only 23, so i got to do this while i can you know....?
i started to build on the TII. but im selling the things i got for it cause i dont need 2 money pits! keeping it a daily....as hard as it may be.
oh as for budget...didnt set one. that hurts the build i found. better off broke and happy than semi-broke and unsatisfied.
my set up basicly is:
rebuilt by me, with RA super seals, RA racing apex seal springs, RA rebuild kit, atkins 2mm solid corner seals, Atkins free flow thermal pelet, new rotor bearings, stat. gear bearings, blah, blah, blah....everything....
large street port
T60-1 Precision turbo
1600cc secondary
1000cc primary (got all the clips and resistors now, plus both rails)
PFC with FC Data-logit
and the oil cooler might be placed a little further back than the stock placement now. the way im running the piping gives me room to do so...im gonna be posting a new thread on that in a minute...
I want Gabby from Puerto Rico to tune my car. but he is only here every so often. if not, then most likely Pettit Racing. there only about an hour from me. theres plenty of Rotary tuners around here. i just would like the best...
im thinking of getting a water/alchohol injection system to run high boost on pump gas. i just need more eductaion on this first.
and theres about a 100 other little things like pulleys and **** that add up $$$$$.....what else would you like to know?
this is my first real build on the car. im only 23, so i got to do this while i can you know....?
i started to build on the TII. but im selling the things i got for it cause i dont need 2 money pits! keeping it a daily....as hard as it may be.
oh as for budget...didnt set one. that hurts the build i found. better off broke and happy than semi-broke and unsatisfied.
02-23-2007, 11:58 AM
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i wish you luck.
the reason i pointed those things out is because i was in the same boat as you, along with many many others that ended up wishing that they had set more modest goals for the car when things are said and done. Or at least wished that they only did things once and not do some trial and error with the car which can get very very expensive.
so if you are set to have that much power and determined to get that far, do some planning. for example the more suitable ecu for that kind of power is TEC3, and a turbo that can flow more than a 60-1, etc. next thing you gotta think of is once you get that power or anything over 400hp is how are you going to keep that on the ground, maybe chromolly axels, diff and transmission braces to save your power plant frame and differential. better than stock motor mounts, probably solid ones. and an engine torque brace to add. then you will need a pretty good clutch, either puck style or multidisc clutch. huge wheels.
now that you know the injector size for your motor, how are you going to feed the injectors and sustain the proper fuel pressure? for 600hp, you need a lot of flow from the pumps, something that can push out 70psi+ at full boost. -AN lines to deliver and return the fuel(at least return since the stock pipes are too narrow).... and on and on and on.... in other words, you dont want to be stuck ready to start your car with problems still at had, you will lose your sanity.
Im only 25, only a couple of years older than you and many thousand dollars more in debt. i am speaking of recent experiences and not once upon a time stories.
lastly, dont be too intimidated with 400hp hondas cuz at the end of the day, they're still driving economy cars, (well i drive one and they are great economy cars) not sports cars. most of those power claims are bullshit anyways.
the reason i pointed those things out is because i was in the same boat as you, along with many many others that ended up wishing that they had set more modest goals for the car when things are said and done. Or at least wished that they only did things once and not do some trial and error with the car which can get very very expensive.
so if you are set to have that much power and determined to get that far, do some planning. for example the more suitable ecu for that kind of power is TEC3, and a turbo that can flow more than a 60-1, etc. next thing you gotta think of is once you get that power or anything over 400hp is how are you going to keep that on the ground, maybe chromolly axels, diff and transmission braces to save your power plant frame and differential. better than stock motor mounts, probably solid ones. and an engine torque brace to add. then you will need a pretty good clutch, either puck style or multidisc clutch. huge wheels.
now that you know the injector size for your motor, how are you going to feed the injectors and sustain the proper fuel pressure? for 600hp, you need a lot of flow from the pumps, something that can push out 70psi+ at full boost. -AN lines to deliver and return the fuel(at least return since the stock pipes are too narrow).... and on and on and on.... in other words, you dont want to be stuck ready to start your car with problems still at had, you will lose your sanity.
Im only 25, only a couple of years older than you and many thousand dollars more in debt. i am speaking of recent experiences and not once upon a time stories.
lastly, dont be too intimidated with 400hp hondas cuz at the end of the day, they're still driving economy cars, (well i drive one and they are great economy cars) not sports cars. most of those power claims are bullshit anyways.
02-23-2007, 07:25 PM
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the keeping power on the ground part is difficult for me right now. i think im gonna go with the rx7.com drag kit. pricey, but nice. i already have the engine torque brace and im having the motor pinned. im undecided on the cluth right now. but most likely 4 or 6 puck with a heavy duty pressure plate. wheels, also undecided. im very picky. but 18's with a 10.5" tire in the rear will do nicely. i have a walbro 255lph fuel pump in there right now. wich im pretty sure needs to be upgraded. im thinking of just adding a inline to help out and still keeping the walbro in there. what do you think? and the rails have no choice but to be fitted with AN fittings and new lines. im also going to run new line all the way to the tank. its only 30 bucks for metal lines.
oh...why dont you think the PFC is good enough? from the research i have done. it seemed to be better than most ecu's out there. microtech, haltech, and all those. plus no wiring.
theres still a lot that needs to be done and bought. but i enjoy it....most of the time
but my fun will come in time
oh...why dont you think the PFC is good enough? from the research i have done. it seemed to be better than most ecu's out there. microtech, haltech, and all those. plus no wiring.
theres still a lot that needs to be done and bought. but i enjoy it....most of the time
but my fun will come in time