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Grizzly 11-30-2006 02:28 PM

Ok i am feeling a bit gutted at the moment, I have just rebuild my Motor and not the first engine i've built i may add, i've forget to put the Rubber Seals under the Primary Injectors.



In your opinion does this sound about right for the sort of Symptoms, It runs but takes a bit of starting (like an Air leak) and once it is running its ok but only when you hold it on the Throttle (Won't idle).



I don't belive it i had just finished fitting the new Motor and i was Tidying up and noticed the Injector seals on the floor (it was an OMG!!! moment)



Do you think these Symptoms are due to this? Or maybe another Fault is Looming.

Grizzly 12-01-2006 11:10 AM

Ok, Bit of an Update. I have spent all day fitting two new Primary Fuel Injector seals (Not a nice job) only to find its still Flooding and won't idle.



I tightened the Throttle cable up and started it (so it idled at 1500) and ran it for a good 30 mins, every thing seems to work fine (well apart from the Oil presure gauge which i some how have damaged the wire??)



So now i'm looking for a fault that can cause a bad idle and flooding?

herblenny 12-01-2006 11:12 AM

did you install the inj. fuel diffusers?

Grizzly 12-01-2006 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by herblenny' post='847473' date='Dec 1 2006, 09:12 AM

did you install the inj. fuel diffusers?

Yes, Dumb i know but i paid for it when i put the seals in today and its still not running properly.



I need to leave it for a day, I've spent most of this week carfully building it up and fitting it (its not gone to plan), The best bit is i thought "Did i put the Seals under the Injectors??" as i was fitting the starter then as i was getting out from under it i saw the two rubber seals in whats left of the Gasket kit........ F**King DUMB!!!! I don't belive it, Blond Moment!!!!!!



Now god only knows what i've done, am at that stage where you've spent two days in the Cold getting rained on and not got any Closer to fixing it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif All i can say is its NOT a Vac leak, so thats one down, Try The Ecu Codes tomorow and see where that takes me.



I'm looking for ideas to try at the moment.

l8t apex 12-01-2006 08:06 PM

TPS signal is off ? check calibration.Injectors do get stuck also.

herblenny 12-01-2006 09:33 PM

Usually, its something simple and when you find it, you will hate yourself. I had seq turbo issue 3 years ago and took me 3 vac jobs to realize it was 2 lines mis plugged.. I almost killed myself for not finding out sooner...



The point is.. Take your time going thru all your vac lines, wires, etc etc..

Grizzly 12-02-2006 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by herblenny' post='847561' date='Dec 1 2006, 07:33 PM

Usually, its something simple and when you find it, you will hate yourself. I had seq turbo issue 3 years ago and took me 3 vac jobs to realize it was 2 lines mis plugged.. I almost killed myself for not finding out sooner...



The point is.. Take your time going thru all your vac lines, wires, etc etc..

The thing is with the Vac lines i replaced them one by one so i can't see them being too out of wack, My plan today is to Pull the Upper inlet again and get a mate to give the Vac lines a once over (often its possable to miss something realy ovious so its good to get opinions) then i'm going to try geting the ECU fault codes, if all this don't work i'm going to check all the Grounds and stuff like the TPS is correctly set up.



If all that don't work i'm going to kick it and get very Drunk https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.gif

Grizzly 12-02-2006 03:24 AM

This may sound daft too, But it was acting like the Timing was out, is it possable to plug the Crank position sensor's in the wrong way roung (The two plugs look very simalar??)



Or do you think i'm experiancing the Limp mode (some thing is giving a bad or no signal and the ecu has made everything go rich?) But if thats the case i don't understand why it won't idle?

Grizzly 12-02-2006 05:37 AM

Is there any one clued up on the Codes? I have just done the Ten Bridge thing and Multi metered B+/Fen, the Meter just reads power all the time so it's basicly the Power is on all the time.



Any ideas what this means?

Grizzly 12-02-2006 05:58 AM

Ok after searching i've found this.





Diagnostic code: Turn key to "ON" and count number of flashes and pauses.



1.) Remains on} Damaged diagnostic module or poor connection of diagnostic module connector



2.) Flashes 3 times} Open circut or poor connection of power source circuit



3.) Flashes 5 times} Damaged D-sensor (D-sensor ON)



4.) Flashes 10 times} Damaged diagnostic module (system-down fuse burnt)



5.) Flashes 4 times} Damaged S-sensor



6.) Flashes 6 times} Damaged air-bag module or poor connection of clock spring connector



7.) Flashes 9 times} Open circuit between diagnostic module and D-sensor.





So as my car is remaining on should i be looking at the ECU/Earths/conections?


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