How Much Boost Is Bad?
#11
Originally Posted by NoCal' date='May 3 2003, 03:19 PM
I don't get how...
kevin.
#12
Originally Posted by teknics' date='May 3 2003, 01:16 PM
the single turbo's are more efficient, and efficiency = more power. those little twins are struggling to push 12psi so you see some losses, whereas on a big wellmade single 12psi is child's play for it. at least thats how i always thought of it.
kevin.
kevin.
#13
Think of it like this:
The stock turbos are like a coffee straw. You can push 12psi through a coffee straw but there won't be a large volume of air. A single turbo is like blowing through a regular straw. Its still 12psi but its alot more air. More air = more power
The stock turbos are like a coffee straw. You can push 12psi through a coffee straw but there won't be a large volume of air. A single turbo is like blowing through a regular straw. Its still 12psi but its alot more air. More air = more power
#14
It depends on your turbo maps wether or not a particular turbo will make more power than twins at lower boost. A large single turbo won't make as much power at 10psi as stock twins at 10psi. A smaller single turbo to medium sized turbo will defenitly make more power at 12psi than stock twins at 12psi. Then once you get to 15+psi the single will make tons more power than the small twins. The stockers being so small have to spin much faster than a larger turbo, hence putting more stress on them. My friend who installed my apexi turbo is running 12psi and the power difference from before to now is very noticable. He even still has the stock intercooler. The turbo spools just as fast as the twins, makes more power, more reliable, less heat, and looks much better.
#15
Originally Posted by 93 R1' date='May 3 2003, 07:25 PM
Think of it like this:
The stock turbos are like a coffee straw. You can push 12psi through a coffee straw but there won't be a large volume of air. A single turbo is like blowing through a regular straw. Its still 12psi but its alot more air. More air = more power
The stock turbos are like a coffee straw. You can push 12psi through a coffee straw but there won't be a large volume of air. A single turbo is like blowing through a regular straw. Its still 12psi but its alot more air. More air = more power
#18
Originally Posted by rx7trix' date='May 3 2003, 04:24 PM
I'm done with this thread...I agree with this guy's sig
12psi is 12psi on any kind of turbo. However there are different trims, compressor and exhaust sizes that effect cfm. Kinda like on Brians 1st gen, he has q trim on a turbo with a .7 compressor and a 1.0 on the exhaust, while I have a P trim. If I were to run 12psi and Brian were to run 12psi he would make more power than me cause his turbo trim allows him to flow more exhaust.
#19
Agreed 12psi is 12psi no matter how you look at it. The difference in CFM between a single and twins, even at the same boost level, is where the extra power comes from.
No arguments here, just stating facts
No arguments here, just stating facts
#20
Ok... First of all YES I AM AN IDIOT. So let me be goddammit.
Question: If in Non-Sequential mode (As the turbo's are after 4500 RPM, provided that the primary turbo makes 8psi) : Don't the turbos make a COMBINED psi? Like 12psi = 6psi per turbo? How does that seem to kill these stockers? Is 6psi THAT much for one of them?
Here's why I ask this...
The primary turbo, on it's own, makes 10 psi until transition... If the primary turbo can handle 10psi all by itself... why can't they (BOTH TURBOS) handle 20psi together?
Sorry for the NEWB question... I was always scared to ask that one on the other forum... afraid of getting banned.
Question: If in Non-Sequential mode (As the turbo's are after 4500 RPM, provided that the primary turbo makes 8psi) : Don't the turbos make a COMBINED psi? Like 12psi = 6psi per turbo? How does that seem to kill these stockers? Is 6psi THAT much for one of them?
Here's why I ask this...
The primary turbo, on it's own, makes 10 psi until transition... If the primary turbo can handle 10psi all by itself... why can't they (BOTH TURBOS) handle 20psi together?
Sorry for the NEWB question... I was always scared to ask that one on the other forum... afraid of getting banned.