Well i'm really getting screwed over. For those of you who dont know i'm 17. Well my dad called the shop were i am getting work done and told them to drop the TO4E and 1300 CC secondary inj off of it. And but Non-Sequintial Twins back on. Not only am i not getting any money back due to labor but this also means that they are putting that whole mess of vacume lines back on. And i'm not getting a ******* penny due to labor. My father who is a god damn ass hole say's i have to much power with the T04E. What do you guy's think i shoudl do i spent too much money on the car to drop the ******* T04E. Any one have any idea's and how bad is this goin to be?

Have him speak to a shop that knows what they are doing. They will probably explain that the car will be more RELIABLE with the single turbo. Have them explain how a WASTEGATE works, and have the shop that has your car put in a 10 psi wastegate and no external boost control. Viola, your car now will not make anymore power then is possible with non-sequential turbos.

he just dosent under stand. And the shop is all for the ******* twins ass holes. But the more i look at this the more i see i'm losing. I paid more for the car in the 1'st place because of the single plsu the twins are junk and cant do ****. At least in comparison to my T04E. All this not to mention that T04E for Twins is the worst trade i have ever heard of.

Why would the shop listen to your dad if their working on your car?



Thats fucked....

at 17 that might be a little too much for you. i wouldn't let my 17 yr old son have that kinda car, but i'm only 20 now so **** that ****. i'd say that unless you get through to your dad your screwed.

get all the work and sell the car

j/k...... be happy with what you have

Yeah i'v talked to engough people it looks like i'm fucked. The thing is i'm paying for it and i'm not going to pay for what i dont want. So if my dad wants to be an ass and do the twins i'm never goin to pay him for the car. so i lose the 7 but he's stuck with 23k in bills. I have this angle covered i just dont want to go into it. So i loose the 7 but dont have to pay for ****. Yes i am an ass liek that. If you were me and had a dad liek mine you woudl be too.

Why not wait till your 18 and then put the stuff on your car then the shop has no reason to listen to your dad you are an adult! Get a handle on driving in factory trim then add more power. Seen way too many cars get totaled because of young drivers with too much power! I am not much older. I won't be running a single for about another 6-8 months. Gonna run the twins non-seq w/ 1300cc till then. This will give me a chance to work on tuning until then.

I hate people who don't understand ****.. The To4e will increase the reliability of the engine, makes maintenance easier, and will only make the same power as the twins. when the to4e goes bad you order a overhaul kit for a garret standard shaft turbo and pay $100 and it's fixed.. When the twins go to junk you pay for a used set of turbo's at $500-1k.. and have to go threw hell to get them off and back on the car. The twins will cause massive heat soak and back pressure and blow the engine easy as ****.. tell your dad to go read some of the forum or tell him to read my post.. The shop is probably lieing to your dad as well because they get to work on the car and make more $ when it blows.. Tell your dad that sombody that is 32 and has built over 30 13B's says he needs to listen to reason and ask him if he's going to pay for the new turbos when the stock twins go to **** or if he's going to pay for a new engine when it blows.