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rx-7addict 01-15-2003 01:28 PM

Ok guys as some of you know that I've talked to about this already I'm getting a third gen soon. I had to get one after driving my friends a few times, and working on it a fair amount. Here's the setup I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with let me know what you think about it. I may have left a couple of things out as it relates to other upgrades I'll be getting but this is straight off the top of my head while I'm sitting here bored at work. Here goes:



updated GT35/40 turbo which has a better wastegate, that is V band setup

upgraded radiator (forget the brand)

M2 Downpipe

stainless midpipe

ACT street strip Clutch/flywheel kit or I may get this twinplate ceramic button clutch setup depending on how much more expensive it'll be

M2 dual tip exhaust

M2 horizontal mount IC

Apexi power FC and upgraded fuel system along with that not quite sure on exact specs of the fuel system yet

Pulley kit



Yeah that's all I can remember off the top of my head right now, but I've been talking to the guys over at A-spec tuning and although I'm probably paying a little more to go through them they're closer and I can get the stuff all at once, drive there pick it up, install it and then drive back to tune the **** out of it. Anyway another thing I was thinking is since I'm going to get the horizontal mount IC I should probably also get a vented hood right? Just a thought but I wanna know what you guys think and well if I forgot something major then I guess let me have it haha. Thx in advance guys :bigthumg:

vosko 01-15-2003 01:31 PM

sounds good some little stuff you are missing though

9BASE3 01-15-2003 02:30 PM

GT35-40 has custom downpipe doesnt it? THe M2 is just for the stock twizzys.

vosko 01-15-2003 02:33 PM

yup GT35/40 comes with a nice downpipe

rx-7addict 01-15-2003 03:37 PM

yeah duh my bad about the downpipe my brain only works like half the time

tfhuth 01-15-2003 04:05 PM

rx-7addict you from Ohio??



Tom

rx7machine 01-15-2003 04:13 PM

Don't forget your reliability mods.. :smirk: Silicone vacum hoses, alumminum AST (air seperation tank), fan mod. That maybe be all the reliability mods.. might wanna search for some more.. You wouldn't want anything to break..not saying any names..

teknics 01-15-2003 05:14 PM

lol that is so far from "all" the reliability mods, i've got a long ass list if you need it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png most things with a price next to them and where to pick them up.



kevin.

Fd3BOOST 01-15-2003 06:27 PM

I never understand why guys plan on tossing the stock turbo before they even get the friggin car.

You don't even know if you like the twins yet and you want a single.

Jumping the gun a bit dont you think?





Also you should set your sights a little lower unless you have **** load of cash to drop.



Your post should be more like........

I am soon buying a 3rd gen.

Where can I get a workshop manual?

Also I want to get a few mods done to get me started,

I want to get your opinions about what I plan on doing.

I am gonna do a vacum hose job, install a down pipe, boost guage, and a cat back.



When I get that all done I am gonna take it to the track and see what happens.

Thanks for any advice,





But do whatever floats your boat.

It's your car that is gonna be fucked from inexperience.





I hope that you get it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

teknics 01-15-2003 07:31 PM

Fd3Boost: damn ripped into him nicely, wow. Maybe he already has the workshop manual and has studied every page of it. The 3rd gen he is going to buy may have all those things done as well. And he already stated he's ridden, and probably driven, in his friend's FD's before.



I'm not criticizing your post because honestly I agree with you, I'm one of the newest of the new around here and when I'm bored believe it or not I go through the pages of the shop manual that i downloaded form iluvmyrx7.com. I also have one of the most comprehensive step by step modification lists I have found, of course it is tailored to what I'm looking for, but still.



Just think if he comes back and says his motor's blown you can point to this thread and say "see i told you so" https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Back to the original topic though, you've got your sights set nice and high and i wish you well with your project, as well as your wallet, cause as everyone knows speed don't come cheap https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png.



Also about needing a vented hood for the horizontal intercooler, unless it's the Scoot hood with the "ram air" type thing in the front not much air will be going into your engine via the hood, the aerodynamics will push the air up and over the vents, so while i doubt it would be a necessity, a vented hood is always a good thing to have with these gril...engines of ours.



kevin.

9BASE3 01-15-2003 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jan 15 2003, 06:27 PM
I never understand why guys plan on tossing the stock turbo before they even get the friggin car.

You don't even know if you like the twins yet and you want a single.

Jumping the gun a bit dont you think?





Also you should set your sights a little lower unless you have **** load of cash to drop.



Your post should be more like........

I am soon buying a 3rd gen.

Where can I get a workshop manual?

Also I want to get a few mods done to get me started,

I want to get your opinions about what I plan on doing.

I am gonna do a vacum hose job, install a down pipe, boost guage, and a cat back.



When I get that all done I am gonna take it to the track and see what happens.

Thanks for any advice,





But do whatever floats your boat.

It's your car that is gonna be fucked from inexperience.





I hope that you get it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Well, I hate to say it but this is a very true post. I can understand the frustration one experiences when a new FD owner has everything picked out before he/she gets the car... Because MOST OF THE TIME, they get the car, crank the boost and either Pop the ******* motor, or total the car.



I did everything in order from recalls and Reliability, to ECU and power... But that's me.



I do know that having a heavily modded FD even on the twins (sequential still) is a dream come true. There are very few cars that are streetable that can handle a FD3S. And NONE have the looks.



Just make sure you LEARN the cars characteristics before you go ****** around. Make sure the car is in PERFECT mechanical order before you go trying to run your friends BPU Supra.



If your car acts goofy, GET IT FIXED> BY A REPUTABLE TUNER> NOT PEP BOYS. I suggest you see if you can hang out and learn something.



Chances are, if you buy a stock FD... You are gunna need to fix something.



Best of luck with the purchase. But in all honesty, stick to the basics. Do the reliability. REPLACE THE GODDAMN CLUNKY BUSHINGS. UPGRADE THE BRAKES. And drive safe!

rx-7addict 01-16-2003 12:14 PM

ok well that's fucked I had a long post in reply to all the things said. Regardless I'll shorten it and repost.



Basically I want to say thanks to all of you including fd3boost, teknics, and 9base3. I know you guys know your stuff about fd's and I appreciate what you're trying to say. Like I said I've had time under the hood of my buddies FD. I'm sure no where near the time you guys have but I've driven his a fair amount too. He has the stock twins on his modded fd, and yeah you're right they are very nice, but I want something different. There are a few modded fd's around here but they're all either stock or the mods they have never really involve the turbos, so I want something different plus I have the money for it since I've been saving for about 5 years now in hopes of getting a project to dump my money into. I didn't decide on an FD until about a year ago. As for the reliability mods I figured that was a given that I didn't need to even state that but my bad of course those were what I planned on doing first, and as for the shop manual I've had that for about a year now since downloading while working on my buddies FD.

I'm not taking any offense to what you guys had to say cause honestly if I were in your shoes I'd be thinking I was a dumbass too, and well if I **** something up then you have more than the right to rip me one.... hell at that point you might as well come to my house and beat the **** out of me for doing something wrong. I appreciate the input you guys have given me and like I said that's my plan for what I want to do. If I actually do it when I get the car is a whole other story.



oh yeah as for tuning and work I was leaning towards A-spec Tuning in IL since I only live a couple of hours away and they seem to be very reputable, plus that's probably where I'm going to get all my parts from.

Anyway Thanks again guys.

9BASE3 01-16-2003 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by rx-7addict' date='Jan 16 2003, 12:14 PM
ok well that's fucked I had a long post in reply to all the things said. Regardless I'll shorten it and repost.



Basically I want to say thanks to all of you including fd3boost, teknics, and 9base3. I know you guys know your stuff about fd's and I appreciate what you're trying to say. Like I said I've had time under the hood of my buddies FD. I'm sure no where near the time you guys have but I've driven his a fair amount too. He has the stock twins on his modded fd, and yeah you're right they are very nice, but I want something different. There are a few modded fd's around here but they're all either stock or the mods they have never really involve the turbos, so I want something different plus I have the money for it since I've been saving for about 5 years now in hopes of getting a project to dump my money into. I didn't decide on an FD until about a year ago. As for the reliability mods I figured that was a given that I didn't need to even state that but my bad of course those were what I planned on doing first, and as for the shop manual I've had that for about a year now since downloading while working on my buddies FD.

I'm not taking any offense to what you guys had to say cause honestly if I were in your shoes I'd be thinking I was a dumbass too, and well if I **** something up then you have more than the right to rip me one.... hell at that point you might as well come to my house and beat the **** out of me for doing something wrong. I appreciate the input you guys have given me and like I said that's my plan for what I want to do. If I actually do it when I get the car is a whole other story.



oh yeah as for tuning and work I was leaning towards A-spec Tuning in IL since I only live a couple of hours away and they seem to be very reputable, plus that's probably where I'm going to get all my parts from.

Anyway Thanks again guys.

Where in IL are you located? There's a mess of us in Saint Louis... Right over the river... I work at Scott Air Force base... In O'Fallon IL. And as for the car...



You sound more well trained than most of the new owners that come to the boards with questions. The "other" forum does have a really good single turbo forum... There are very many reputable owners in there that know all the **** about single setups. There are a good bunch here too. Don't be afraid to ask questions... We'll help with whatever we can!

rx-7addict 01-16-2003 01:20 PM

thanks 9base3.... Actually I live in Elkhart, IN it's near South Bend like where Notre Dame is, but A-Spec is only like 2 hours from where I live, so it's easy for me. Yeah I'm still a noob in comparison to many of you guys, but I have put my time in under the hood of an fd in the last couple of years as well as some other cars like my buddie's 69 Trans Am, ::gulp:: a 96 mustang cobra, a couple of old beamers, and even some shitty honda's but everyone's gotta start somewhere I guess. I have no qualms about asking questions and I sure as hell have no problem admitting that I fucked up when I did, but hell once I get it up and running maybe I'll make the trip to St. Louis since I have a couple of friends that go to school at Wash U and then I can meet up with a couple of you guys as well.

9BASE3 01-16-2003 01:34 PM

Hell yeah! Let us know when you are in town. We party by Wash U all the time!

rx-7addict 01-16-2003 01:51 PM

No doubt man I'll definately let you know. It'll probably be a couple of months like I said I have yet to get the car and the parts. I'm aiming to buy the parts mid to late February and do the reliability mods and any other fixups then, and then work on the new parts. So I'm aiming to hopefully get it done somewhere in the time span of early April provided I have the time to really sit down and work on it. I'll be juggling working full time, school, and a girlfriend, so as you can imagine the free time isn't always there, but I'll keep you posted.

Fd3BOOST 01-16-2003 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by rx-7addict' date='Jan 16 2003, 10:14 AM
ok well that's fucked I had a long post in reply to all the things said. Regardless I'll shorten it and repost.



Basically I want to say thanks to all of you including fd3boost, teknics, and 9base3. I know you guys know your stuff about fd's and I appreciate what you're trying to say. Like I said I've had time under the hood of my buddies FD. I'm sure no where near the time you guys have but I've driven his a fair amount too. He has the stock twins on his modded fd, and yeah you're right they are very nice, but I want something different. There are a few modded fd's around here but they're all either stock or the mods they have never really involve the turbos, so I want something different plus I have the money for it since I've been saving for about 5 years now in hopes of getting a project to dump my money into. I didn't decide on an FD until about a year ago. As for the reliability mods I figured that was a given that I didn't need to even state that but my bad of course those were what I planned on doing first, and as for the shop manual I've had that for about a year now since downloading while working on my buddies FD.

I'm not taking any offense to what you guys had to say cause honestly if I were in your shoes I'd be thinking I was a dumbass too, and well if I **** something up then you have more than the right to rip me one.... hell at that point you might as well come to my house and beat the **** out of me for doing something wrong. I appreciate the input you guys have given me and like I said that's my plan for what I want to do. If I actually do it when I get the car is a whole other story.



oh yeah as for tuning and work I was leaning towards A-spec Tuning in IL since I only live a couple of hours away and they seem to be very reputable, plus that's probably where I'm going to get all my parts from.

Anyway Thanks again guys.

Well I wasnt trying to rip you so much as set you on the right path. Seems like you got yourself on it already.

I hope that you find a nice car. Good luck and keep us posted.

GWYGUY 01-16-2003 10:57 PM

9BASE3!!! How's it going, man? Where you work on Scott? I'm here, too. My baby's garagin' while this bullshit weather slides out. It'll gimmee some time to replace the rear bushings. Ain't nuthin' compares to an FD, and ain't nuthin' can spin heads like them either. Just out of curiosity, who does your tuning and hard parts work? I'm still looking for that special mechanic for the harder stuff. Mazda up in Fairview is a rapist, and they sound like they don't know what the hell's going on. Take it easy. G Out!

teknics 01-16-2003 11:33 PM

rx7_addict:



I was actually trying to protect what you were saying aboutwhat setup you wanted and i was telling them that you mentioned you worked on one before and have ridden/driven in one. Also I honestly don't believe i know half as much as anyone else here, the things i were suggesting were complete basics that i've been taught is the way to start from scratch, of course that doesnt apply to your build because you have worked and ridden/driven in one before. me i've only ridden in one once....never even touched a rotary engine yet.



kevin.

rx-7addict 01-17-2003 08:10 AM

fd3boost:

Again thanks for the input; I knew you weren't rippin me one when you posted you just were tryin to help me out I guess I didn't state that I realized that ..... my bad. Basically I just wanted to put up a big post explaining all my plans and all so you guys could all see that I'd put a little more thought into it then I'd probably originally portrayed.



teknics:

Thanks for trying to back me up on what I said I didn't make it clear in my post that I realized that either.





I get distracted as hell at work right when I sit down to do something like this and then it screws my whole thought process. I'll keep you guys posted on how things are coming along. Right now I'm just trying to find a car that's in good condition and is not half a world away, but I'm getting to the point that if I have to spend like 250 bucks to fly out to look at one somewhere then I'll do it, it could save me a shitload of pains down the road. We'll see though. Anyway thanks again.

9BASE3 01-17-2003 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by GWYGUY' date='Jan 16 2003, 10:57 PM
9BASE3!!! How's it going, man? Where you work on Scott? I'm here, too. My baby's garagin' while this bullshit weather slides out. It'll gimmee some time to replace the rear bushings. Ain't nuthin' compares to an FD, and ain't nuthin' can spin heads like them either. Just out of curiosity, who does your tuning and hard parts work? I'm still looking for that special mechanic for the harder stuff. Mazda up in Fairview is a rapist, and they sound like they don't know what the hell's going on. Take it easy. G Out!

I do it all myself. Let me know if you need something. Mines getting some paint work right now.... But after that I'll be back under the hood doing some polishing and tinkering... I turned my garage at home into my shop... So I do it right at home...



I work at TRANSCOM at Scott. You? I'm in 1961. Right by the commisary. Do you have the silver one? Or the black one? I've heard of 2 others here, and those are the colors... Never seen them though... We need to get together! Oh, Mines a VR. But a clean one!



Justin

rx7machine 01-25-2003 02:57 PM


lol that is so far from "all" the reliability mods, i've got a long ass list if you need it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png most things with a price next to them and where to pick them up.



kevin.
Sorry.. that's all I could think of at the time.. so, what all am I missing?


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