Speeder

OK folks.

Wondering how long it took to replace an FD motor in your ride. I have a rebuilt sitting on the floor next to my `94. Can`t even see the floor hardly from the top of the engine compartment. Those little fellows across the water sure shoehorned everything in! LOL! I am thinking of pulling the motor from the top instead of dropping it out of the bottom like some do. I am sure that there are some "pros" here who could do it quick. Wish I could say that I was one!



I need to also have the twin turbos rebuilt. Staying stock on everything for the most part. Any suggestions for a good company to go with for the rebuild of the turbocharger?



Thanks a bunch for any info that could be passed along!



Nat

amp

depending on what you have access to.. ive found pullin from the top with everything intact much easier..

all accessories including turbo and tranny.. as far as the rebuilt twins.. theres enough folks sellin used ones cheap..

ive got a set with a secondary oil leak with good primary for 75 smackers... find a good secondary and slap em together..

qwester007

First timer? Take pictures and label everything-

Speeder

First time pull in a 3rd gen. Have done 2 1st gens in the past. You`re right on the pics & labeling. Good advice! Plan to do just that! If I hadn`t of taken pics of the last projects while I was working, there were a few areas that might not have gone as smoothly as they did. Hehehe! Hard to believe that there are so many things under the hood of the 3rd gen cars. I think patience is the key here. I am figuring 3 or 4 weeks for me to do this. Will have to find a shop to rebuild the turbos though. Still looking into this one. Anyone know where I can have a set done that is reasonably priced instead of getting raped on the deal? I am hoping someone on this forum has had a set done at one time or another & could tell me where they sourced the work & what kind of results they had gotten as far as reliability with the rebuilts.



Thanks for the info guys!

Nat

j9fd3s

i think book time is like 12-14 hours..



the "rebuilt" twin turbos never work right, they usually use more oil than the old non rebuilt ones.



and they "rebuilders" also cannot fix the cracks in the housing either.



it works much better to find a good used set, or buy new if you feel like dropping another $2500

Speeder

Wish I could do mine in 12-14 hours! LOL!! Think it will take me longer ( Add MUCH longer here ).



As far as the rebuilt turbos go, usually see cracks in about every photo I have seen on used sets. Some better, some worse, than others. Haven`t had mine off yet so don`t know how bad they are at 112K miles.



Thought about buying a used set but you never know what you are truly getting when you buy used. I have been looking on eBay alot & have seen some good ones go cheap but always have been leary as to what the real mileage may be on the turbos up for sale. I would be pretty disgusted to have pulled the engine, put in a new one & then 10K miles down the road, "used" turbos go POOF! Eek! Getting a new set is doable but I hate to drop that kind of cash. I do know that you get what you pay for most times...unless you are REALLY lucky! Hehehe! Years ago I did an `83 with a Cartech turbo kit ( Garrett turbo ) which lasted about 60K before needing a rebuild. When I see used turbos with 40 or 50K on them ( common ), I kinda shy away from the offers. My opinion only but, I figure that they will be needing rebuilt sometime in the near future & getting all of that stuff out of the way around a 94 intake manifold, looks pretty ugly to me. Have you had the opportunity to use rebuilt sets in the past or was your comment based on what you have seen others report? Curious now.



Thanks,

Nat

Signal 2

Get a hard copy of the FSM or download one from one of the on-line sources before hand. Study it, it will be your bible. Also look for a YOUTUBE link to the "dealing with the pull-type clutch" video. Big help.

Personally, I prefer to remove the motor only, but either way after doing it on mine and some others, I could do it myself in a couple of hours.

As for shops, you didn't say we're your at, but in the mid-west, BANZAI RACING in Pierceton Indiana. There's also Rotary Resurrection in Tennesee. Check for they're respective websites for details.

Signal 2

http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/3rdgen/techmenu.html

They have a tech section covering engine removal.

I also agree that the stock twins generally don't accept rebuilding well. Get new or good used.

Speeder

Jim,

Thanks for the replies! I have a FSM that has helped me alot in running down some troubles I have had in the past. That thing is a treasure to have for us guys with 3rd gens!



Wow! You can get one out in a couple hours?!! Man! That`s something else! LOL! I wouldn`t dream that it could be done that quickly! I guess if someone has done a few it really speeds things up on following pulls. Just makes sense. I am dreading doing this but I have the time. Recently layed off from employment in the automotive industry so not rushed for time here.



I have had the fun experience of finding out what happens when the tranny goes back together with the motor incorrectly. Had to put a clutch in the car a few years ago. Took me doing it twice to get it right. That pull type clutch is different from what I am used to dealing with. The first gens are much easier to work with in my opinion. I guess it is also what you are used to that`s easiest though.



Rotary Resurrection is over in Morristown which is about a 40 minute drive from me. I am in Knoxville TN. I think the guy is available to take jobs right now. In the past, he stayed covered up. Economy must be taking a toll on him too like others right now. Maybe I need to give him a call. Haven`t really thought about that one. He might be a good source for a turbo or be able to give me the scoop on turbo rebuilding & its ups & downs.



Are you still with the stock twins or running a single turbo? Known anyone to have good luck with rebuilt twins or was it hit or miss?



Thanks,

Nat

Signal 2

In all honesty, I have a lift and the last one I was involved with was a single turbo. And both my friend (the owner) and I are experienced. It actually took us a little less 2 hours to have it out and on an engine stand. But a single turbo does make it easier.



BTW, here's that YouTube video I mentioned on the Pull-type clutch. Might help visualize how it's done........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPCi4RpGQCU



Landers (Rotary Resurrecton) has a decent reputation for providing good value in a rebuild. Good luck.