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Old 12-14-2006, 10:51 AM
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This is another reason why you shouldn't worry too much about EtOH exposure to O rings and gaskets in the short block. First the engine combustion will experience pretty high heat where any EtOH should be burned off. Second, if the EtOH should happen to seep thru and make contact with O rings and such, then I think you already had issues with your engine prior to running E85.



I personally think you don't need to worry about it except maybe affecting the injectors or some rubber fuel lines (I also don't think that would be a problem). I just can't think of anything that would be harm the car by running E85...



Another benefit I see is that you will have less carb build up using E85... Which I think its a big plus!
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Those 1600s are also used for straight methanol
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:51 PM
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ive been thinking of using an additional fuel cell for e85

also a gas station over in council bluffs iowa by lake manawah is selling e85 for 1.70 ish a gallon where premium is about 2.45



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Originally Posted by bheiman' post='849674' date='Dec 19 2006, 08:51 PM

ive been thinking of using an additional fuel cell for e85

also a gas station over in council bluffs iowa by lake manawah is selling e85 for 1.70 ish a gallon where premium is about 2.45



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ha I just drove through council bluffs lol.. i was on my way back from cedar rapids
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I found some 3/8 and 1/2 methanol fuel lines for 6.99-9.99 per foot from a local guy around here who is running his methanol fueled supercharged big block chevy with mechanical fuel injection. so fuel lines are taken care of, now to determine wether I need a new fuel rail, regulator, pump and God forbid a new tank.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by black93fd' post='849763' date='Dec 20 2006, 04:43 PM

I found some 3/8 and 1/2 methanol fuel lines for 6.99-9.99 per foot from a local guy around here who is running his methanol fueled supercharged big block chevy with mechanical fuel injection. so fuel lines are taken care of, now to determine wether I need a new fuel rail, regulator, pump and God forbid a new tank.


I'm confused.. again... did you read any of the posts above?? Why are you changing out fuel lines, rail, regulator, pump, and... tank??



I would really like to hear your reasons.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by black93fd' post='849763' date='Dec 20 2006, 04:43 PM

I found some 3/8 and 1/2 methanol fuel lines for 6.99-9.99 per foot from a local guy around here who is running his methanol fueled supercharged big block chevy with mechanical fuel injection. so fuel lines are taken care of, now to determine wether I need a new fuel rail, regulator, pump and God forbid a new tank.


I never said I was going to change them all out. If there was any confusion what I meant was that I will change my fuel lines ( nothing else yet ). Also I'm just adding information about fuel lines that would be able to handle more corrosive properties than what ethanol dishes out. I heard from a local shop that I may need larger lines as you run a considerably larger amount of fuel when you use ethanol compared to gasoline. So if I'm using the stock lines they may bottle neck the fuel system.
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OK.. I'm not sure what kind of power you are trying to make but I know people using stock lines with good ole gasoline making 500+HP.

So, just how much is "considerably larger amount"? When someone tells me considerable amount, I normally think of 50+% more. If its that much more, I also wonder about the cost effectiveness of this conversion (E85 might be about the same cost as 93 OCT).
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well I dont know what he meant by "considerably" more fuel I want to try and make around 450+whp if possible. I'm a firm believer in overkill especially when it comes to fuel and if I ever get the money to go with a 20b then I bet I could use larger lines so the way that I see it this is a safe guard and an investment for the future.
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9.8-1 is stoic for E-85. You need LOTS more fuel than gasoline.



You need much larger injectors, lines, and a fuel pump that can handle conductive liquids. Gasoline is dielectric, e-85 is not.
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