Im getting back into making composite parts, and looking to have a broader product line. What parts would you like to see made out of fiberglass or carbon fiber for the fd?



One of the resins I use is stable to 330 degrees F, so I can make parts to survive in the engine bay.



Im finishing up a prototype of an elbow similar in design to the Greddy one, but in carbon fiber. Ill have more information up on that next week.



Lets hear some ideas.

a reasonably priced carbon fiber diffuser would be nice https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

carbon fiber is useless....lol





you could try replicating whats in demand and then starting on your own "designs". if its done well and priced right ppl will buy it, right martin.

[quote name='treceb' date='Jun 18 2005, 08:36 PM']carbon fiber is useless....lol

you could try replicating whats in demand and then starting on your own "designs". if its done well and priced right ppl will buy it, right martin.


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The exact purpose of me posting this thread is to see whats in demand.



Fikse, what would you consider a reasonable price?

im interested in some intake pipes for my apeki dual intake, i think that would be sweet. umm the elbow would be nice, anything interior obviously would be sweet, door panels would be hella popular if reasonably priced. let me know what price ur thnking for the intakes and elbow. thanks

The interior plastics, circling from driver door armrest all the way to the shifter surround, doors if they're stupid light, and the GT-C wing, since I have yet to find one anywhere else.

the outside door handles .... feed is now making them full carbon fiber not a overlay.. if you could do carbon fiber door handles like the whole outside handle i would be so down. My stock ones are all chipped and shitty looking

[quote name='nopistons94' date='Jun 18 2005, 11:50 PM']the outside door handles .... feed is now making them full carbon fiber not a overlay.. if you could do carbon fiber door handles like the whole outside handle i would be so down. My stock ones are all chipped and shitty looking


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feed door handles has no carbonfiber in it whatsoever.... they are painted so they look like carbon fiber

[quote name='mazdaspeed7' date='Jun 18 2005, 08:06 PM']The exact purpose of me posting this thread is to see whats in demand.



Fikse, what would you consider a reasonable price?


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300-400 dollars

I'm wanting to see doors and door handles.

Cold air intake box like M2 made.

[quote name='Signal 2' date='Jun 19 2005, 11:18 AM']Cold air intake box like M2 made.


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Seconded.

how about the intake pipes for the apexi dual intake? and door panels would be sweeeeeet, expensive but who owns an rx-7 that doesnt spend money on it. =)

im seriously looking to replace the sunroof panel with a carbon fiber piece. even if i have to pay for a one-off and send in a core.

Cold air box is definately do-able. Ill get started on a prototype next week.



Door panels are doable, complete doors would be very expensive.



The sunroof panel is doable, but my fd doesnt have a sunroof, so Id need to get a sunroof to make a mold from.



BTW, Im always up for doing one-off parts, just keep in mind the prices are higher because I cant spread up the mold/prototype costs out like I could over the course of a production run.



Ill look into door handles and the diffuser, but it wont be easy to get a diffuser down to the price level martin recommended.



I remember seeing a number of people looking for the east bear style headlight kit. Still a big interest for a light kit of that style?

[quote name='FikseRxSeven' date='Jun 19 2005, 04:03 AM']feed door handles has no carbonfiber in it whatsoever.... they are painted so they look like carbon fiber


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WRONG.





new style is full carbon fiber. One of their newest editions.. and their sweet



Link : http://www.fujita-eng.com/fd3s/index_2.html

[quote name='nopistons94' date='Jun 19 2005, 10:13 PM']WRONG.

new style is full carbon fiber. One of their newest editions.. and their sweet



Link : http://www.fujita-eng.com/fd3s/index_2.html


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did you see vancouverrx7's car? they are painted.... i was referring to the one i saw, not the new one, i doubt that its real carbonfiber

Yes, a east bear headlight kit would be nice. I would definately be interested in getting a set out of carbon fiber.

Rearview mirrors man!

[quote name='nopistons94' date='Jun 19 2005, 11:13 PM']WRONG.

new style is full carbon fiber. One of their newest editions.. and their sweet



Link : http://www.fujita-eng.com/fd3s/index_2.html


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Thats not real carbon fiber.

how about them dual intake apexi pipes =), im veryy interested in that. andany interior plastic piece, would u do an entire dash ? how about building a speaking box wrapping around the back of the car, where i ripped up the Bose system is still showing carpet and id like to build a nasty fiberglass, or carbon fiber setup going around the back.??? watcha think

[quote name='mazdaspeed7' date='Jun 20 2005, 01:32 AM']Thats not real carbon fiber.


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whatever, you guys know everything. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

I would buy a set of doors...

[quote name='nopistons94' date='Jun 20 2005, 08:45 AM']whatever, you guys know everything. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif


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it says next to the price in parenthesis "carbon look"....learn to read japanese or get a translator.lol







actually, i think those parts at the feed site would be cool to have, like door handles, front brake vents and mirrors.

[quote name='treceb' date='Jun 20 2005, 11:30 AM']it says next to the price in parenthesis "carbon look"....learn to read japanese or get a translator.lol

actually, i think those parts at the feed site would be cool to have, like door handles, front brake vents and mirrors.


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ya feed did come out with a handle though.. i dunno if its on that site or not but feed came out with a new one. I want a all carbon fiber door handle though that would be schweeeeeeeeeeettttt

i think all CF would be kinda hard. have you seen what the door handle looks like in side? maybe a nice cover would be more appropiate.

ya i've had to install mine on my previous FD, pretty mechanical. My handles are just starting to look like junk now and I don't feel like just respraying them or anything

I'd buy a East Bear kit from you.

still working out some details, but heres a little teaser pic



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...9_140_9758.jpg

I would love to replace all the plastic on my center console, by the climate control, radio, and shifter, with carbon fiber. That would look sweet. Also whatever on the inside of the doors could be done would be great also.

[quote name='mazdaspeed7' date='Jun 20 2005, 06:32 AM']Thats not real carbon fiber.


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Is yours? Surely not at those prices https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png



Mark

Want to borrow my leaf blower before you take anymore pics? We could trade on a light weight hood for my fd 20b conversion.

I think if you want the look only and functionality is not important but cost savings is go CF layover. Then if the CF look with some functionality "like most stuff , its CF matting with regular temp resin" then.... that saves money"

I think the next medium is to take the afore mentioned a vacume bag and use the 45 degree layup and 90 temp setup.

This is still not the high dollar autoclave under vacume using the expensive resins as in GT,F1 or other stuff.

I think $600 dollars for the vacbag "outside only" door using regular resine would be good.I have too see how the stock outside panel is. Even the inside"another $600".I assume they bolt onto the center frame.

Goodluck I will check in to see whats you got going on. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I have too much instructional videos on this and no place any more to try myself.

Just some ideas.

[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Jun 20 2005, 07:04 PM']Is yours? Surely not at those prices https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png



Mark


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what prices? The only mention Ive made of price here was for the diffuser, and I said it would be hard to get to that price level. But I assure you everything I do is real.





[quote name='bpmfla' date='Jun 20 2005, 08:38 PM']Want to borrow my leaf blower before you take anymore pics? We could trade on a light weight hood for my fd 20b conversion.


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https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

[quote name='l8t apex' date='Jun 20 2005, 09:46 PM']I think if you want the look only and functionality is not important but cost savings is go CF layover. Then if the CF look with some functionality "like most stuff , its CF matting with regular temp resin" then.... that saves money"

I think the next medium is to take the afore mentioned a vacume bag and use the 45 degree layup and 90 temp setup.

This is still not the high dollar autoclave under vacume using the expensive resins as in GT,F1 or other stuff.

I think $600 dollars for the vacbag "outside only" door using regular resine would be good.I have too see how the stock outside panel is. Even the inside"another $600".I assume they bolt onto the center frame.

Goodluck I will check in to see whats you got going on. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I have too much instructional videos on this and no place any more to try myself.

Just some ideas.


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First off, an instructional video by no means makes you an expert. Autoclaves and even vacuum bagging arent the end-all, greatest thing to happen to composite fabrication. Sure, they can make for nice parts, but a skilled person can make a better part with a basic wet layup than a less skilled person could do vacuum bagging or autoclaving it.



Vacuum bagging basically doubles the material cost as well the amount of time invloved to make all but the largest parts. One of the important factors of vacuum bagging is the appearance of control over the resin/cloth ratio. The ratio is imperitive to have the lightest and strongest part you can. A high quality hand laid piece can be within a few percent of the ratio of a high quality vacuum pagged part, and better than a vacuum bagged part done by someone who didnt really know what they were doing.



Autoclaves simple take out a lot of the area where human error can occur, and lowered the required skill level. Autoclaved parts are made using pre-pegs, which already has the resin impregnated into the cloth at the proper ratio, partially hardened, and then refrigerated until needed. The pre-peg cloth has a very limited shelf life. There only human effort required is to cut the pre-peg cloth, lay it in the mold, and hook up the autoclave connections. An autoclave is nothing more than an elaborate vacuum bagging system inside what accounts to an oven. The pre-prg cloth needs heat to fully cure.







You may have notices that the pic I posted is mostly fiberglass. Hence the inside being more white. This is a prototype. Why would I waste expensive cf cloth on a part Im going to throw away when Im done with it? In that same sense, I also made it with the cheap resin. My production resin is quite expensive, but its a far cry from the boat building resins you will find in a boat supply store, let alone the polyester crap they sell at home depot and hardware stores. My production resin is a crystal clear commercial resin noted for its impact resistance and high temperature stability. The heat distortion temperature is 330 degrees F.



Enough ranting. All of my prduction pieces will be all carbon fiber, with the exception of the flanges, which will use a fiberglass core with carbon fiber on either side. Its just not practical for me to use 40 layers of carbon fiber cloth in a flange.



This is the quality level of my production pieces. Flanges are going to be cut from this for another product.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...140_201090.jpg

[quote name='mazdaspeed7' date='Jun 20 2005, 10:16 PM']First off, an instructional video by no means makes you an expert. Autoclaves and even vacuum bagging arent the end-all, greatest thing to happen to composite fabrication. Sure, they can make for nice parts, but a skilled person can make a better part with a basic wet layup than a less skilled person could do vacuum bagging or autoclaving it.


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dont you know a video and the internet is all you need to make anything? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif



I dont know why you bother https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png

[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jun 20 2005, 10:46 PM']



I dont know why you bother https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png


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The preaching or actually trying to sell parts?

either tends to get nowhere, no offense to you, I feel you pain

Okay how about an upper intake manifold cover like the one on the feed website...Have not been able to find it over here...Please?

[quote name='tigerdriver' date='Jun 20 2005, 11:37 PM']Okay how about an upper intake manifold cover like the one on the feed website...Have not been able to find it over here...Please?


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Thats next on my list.