Hi guys,



I'm new to the world of RX-7s. I have a 3rd generation car on the way that I am getting rid of my WRX for. I love the WRX, but my eyes were wide open after I got my ass royally kicked by an RX-7. I want to build the RX-7 ultimately into a reliable 11second street car. Is this possible? and if it is, what are the steps I need to take. I am looking to you guys because you are much wiser than I when it comes to the mystical rotary.

where were you when you lost???



oh yeah sorry and you could make a reliable 11sec 7. i just wouldn't try to make it an everyday driver.

You can make it a daily driver just as reliable as any other car. Throw us some stats on the seven your picking up. Its prolly best to work from there.

Buy the Rx-7...Get your ass handed to you buy a Ferrari and then you will want one of those. You want a reliable 11sec car.....Buy a Supra

First things first.



Joe, If the car is an 11 sec. car, I will not be getting my ass handed to me by any ferrari except maybe the enzo if I have a slow 11. I don't plan on seeing an enzo anytime soon.

As far as stats on the RX-7, it is bone stock with 58k miles on it. Let me know where to go from here guys.



Thanks a million

you knwo what one of the running in-house supra forum jokes is?



what do 300, 400, & 500hp supras have in common?????



12 second time slips......





i know, because i have been searching for a new car for a few weeks and am looking for a replacement for the fd i just sold.....



you can make an fd rx7 a reliable performerin teh 11 second realm, but it will take time, $$$$, and patience just like every other car.



what many people do not hear about the supras is their lack of [engine] management and some of the car's idiosynchricies. like the rx7, the fabled end-all supra has its share of problems too. they get crank walk, tranny problems, and especially-ignition issues under high boost. not to say that they are not bad ass, but to say that they are not limited to, as the rx7 is or is not.



there are a **** ton of 700-900hp supras running around and for less money, you could get a FULL BLOWN pettit bansai 3 rotor (33K) and out perform and be more streetable and reliable than the supra.......how'd that be?



and 11 second rx7 is what i always wanted, but never took it to that last level. many have, such as ernieT, anthonyNYC, and others....vosko of course has the same set up, and he might be the best preacher for the sermon.



to achieve greatness, you must suffer and endure. meaning, as it is in every struggle for power in what ever car, you will inevitably break trannys and rear ends, roast clutches and demolish axels......it just depends on how serious you are and how deep your pockets go......



i would like to conclude by saying that the rx7 CAN be as reliable for about the same $ as a supra, as long as you are guided by the right hand, and have the will and determination to do so. read where others have gone, and follow what works....tried and true is usually a good way to go, and on the way, do something slightly different, and you could get a whole different result.



take your FD, build it appropriately.....meaning, know your goal, and start heading towards it.......but do nottake that last step unless everything is ready for the party....that is what i was doing with my car.....and hopefully the guy who bought it, and the $ from his settlement, will get him to where i wanted the car to go.....i just did not have the right timing.......





louis.....i ramble, cant type, and have no idea what i just said.....

good post

Very good post!!!



You could start with an aluminum radiator, boost gauge and downpipe!!! LOL

thanks guys.



i figured that i would cut to the chase, and get to the real deal....

wooohoooo that's the way to go! play it safe! you really need to focus on reliabilty before trying to run 11's out of the hole.

louis that was a great post. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif



srt-4, the first thing you have to realize is these cars are 10 years old (ok not the 94 and 95 just bear with me). you will have to replace things. you might as well get the car 'up to par' so to say.... vacuum hoses, possibly new bushings, worn interior pieces, yadda yadda yadda. get those little things fixed first, then focus on reliability like Srce and wraith mentioned. if your car isn't running right and you dump 5 grand in mods into it at the same time, it's going to run even worse, and you'll have a helluva time trying to figure out what the problem is.



check out these two sites. they are overflowing with information that can only help you.



http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/index.html'



http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobinette/



any other questions just ask, we're here to help.



Jimmy

My setup is good for an 11 second timeslip on pump gas, daily driver, and has proven reliable thus far. Gotham has built a few FDs similar to mine, it's not all that hard. Just need a strong ported motor, BNR twins in parallel, and all the supporting fuel/power mods.

What, you don't want a Ferrari? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

good point rich. there are prolly 20 different set ups with turbos and misc. **** that can net an 11 sec timeslips for the fd. some are higher modded ones with guys who are not very good drivers, and the other ones are lesser modded versions with the **** driven ou tof them. the both have their pro's and con's.....just decide. like i said make sure you have the "platform" as rich implied, a strong ported motor, and then pick your poison from there. hybrid twins, single.....yadda....

i'll take 2 ferraris.....

An 11 second street driver ain't all that tough.



I'm not quite there yet but pretty close and I pass Maryland clean air tests too because I am still running a cat. A midpipe would cinch it.

tcb100, very nice times. Were those runs on DRs?

Werd!!

I agree... with a supra you wont have to worry about all the problems.. and Supras are easier to maintain

i dont think you will need a ported motor. if you stick with the stock motor you will need to get larger injectors and engine management. not to say that porting is a bad thing, if you got the extra money a mild street port is nice. porting will affect driveability and idle depending on the extremity.

I have to agree with joe flo, if you want to drag race often, go 11's while being reliable doing this, the supra is a better choice.

Yeah, but I think he wants to look good while blasting down the strip https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

In case anyone forgot. Rikkis old rx-7 ran 11.7.

It was a ported engine on stock twins set up non sequentail.

It was his daily driven car. He drove it in DC traffic everyday from Maryland over to his work (PFS) in Manassas Va.

He never broke down on the 11 second engine either.

That only proves to me that its all in parts and tunning.



So I simply answer your question.

Yes you can build a reilable 11 sec RX7, and I want to add that you dont necessarily need anything other than stock turbos to do it.

There was a guy at rotorfest that was claiming 400 on stock engine and turbos.

Did anyone ever confirm that?

Thanx for pointing that out Dave. You need some good tuning and a few key parts. BNR turbos will help but it can be done with stock motor and turbos. But the turbos will be like an oil change https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png Oh has the BNR's stop smoking yet? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif







-Ryan

ONe more addition to htis it that you need to know about your rotary engines. I have had my FD for 7 months and I am still learning about things so soak up all the info you can but info from the right people. Not to put anyone down here but not all these guys on the internet know what their talking about. You should go to a good rotay shop and tell them that you want to build an 11 sec. RX-7.

Yeah, it is confirmed. That's John from NJ...his stock looking white FD did 404 at the wheels (17psi I believe on ported motor) on the stock twins and has run an 11.1 on ET Streets (ported). Both of those numbers are high up on the all-time record lists when using stock twins. The guy is a great tuner.

Tuning is the most important and it help's if you are a good driver to get into the 11's.

Thanx for pointing that out Dave. You need some good tuning and a few key parts. BNR turbos will help but it can be done with stock motor and turbos. But the turbos will be like an oil change https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png Oh has the BNR's stop smoking yet? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif







-Ryan [/quote]

LOL

Your ears must have been burning.

You come out of the wood work as soon as your name comes up.

sorry to sound dumb but what does that mean? [/quote]

That means to make that much power with the stock twins...they will

not last long!

sorry to sound dumb but what does that mean? [/quote]

It means your turbos wont live terribly long and they will be blowing oil like a hooker on sale at Mardis Gras. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

and you will have to replace them like you change your oil.

Thanx for pointing that out Dave. You need some good tuning and a few key parts. BNR turbos will help but it can be done with stock motor and turbos. But the turbos will be like an oil change https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png Oh has the BNR's stop smoking yet? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif







-Ryan [/quote]

Hey Rikki,



Both my good friend Nick Haralam out in NJ and myself are running the BNR Stage 3s with no oil smoke problems at all. A customer of ours Eddie (drifter93 here) also has no excessive oil smoke problems.



This problem ONLY occurs w/the Stage 3s, b/c of the dynamic seals, which enable quick spooling. The stock rebuilds, Stage 1s, and Stage 2s have no problems whatsoever with smoking.



Additionally, Bryan has found a solution to the smoking problem and will be instituting it soon on future sets.



Just wanted to set the record straight----

Thank you. Supras have good engines, I'll give 'em that. If all you want is a car that can accelerate fast in a straight line then a Supra's not a bad choice. If you want a car that can handle and accelerate, then get an Rx7.



The best description I've heard of a Supra is "Good engine, bad chassis." They're also severely traction limited. Hence the joke about timeslips. It takes a really good driver to get a Supra down into the 11s.

Thank you. Supras have good engines, I'll give 'em that. If all you want is a car that can accelerate fast in a straight line then a Supra's not a bad choice. If you want a car that can handle and accelerate, then get an Rx7.



The best description I've heard of a Supra is "Good engine, bad chassis." They're also severely traction limited. Hence the joke about timeslips. It takes a really good driver to get a Supra down into the 11s. [/quote]

You know, I don't even own a Supra and I take a bit of offense at your post. You make it sound like a Supra is a poor handling car, it is FAR FAR from that and in fact has an excellent chassis. The FD is a lighter, smaller car and as such is a bit more nimble feeling and a better AutoX, tight turn performer..but a Supra isn't far behind at all and is in fact probably a better road race platform. A Supra can do a whole lot more than just accelerate my friend.



I don't know who the hell told you 'good engine, bas chassis' but they were talking out of their ass completely. Traction limited? And the FD isn't? The joke about timeslips has to do with the street driven 700HP Supras that go to the track with street tires and average drivers, you mean a heavy car with a lot of turbo lag and IRS can't hook up like a Camaro? No ****! It wasn't designed for hole shots, and all it takes to get a Supra into the 11's is a decent driver with DR's in the back, even on stock turbos. I can't believe how misinformed you are about MKIV's.

Yup. I've seen Andi Baritchi's Supra tear ass around Motorsport Ranch.......he'd put a huge whuppin' on most of the FDs out there https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

it doesnt take alot to put a supra into the 11s, and I know FD's can go fast in the 1/4, it's just if you want to go drag racing often, and go 11's often, the FD probably isnt the best choice, and if you detonate on the FD when you're pushing the limits, you're building a new motor... replacing turbo(s) and so on. the supra engine will tolerate alot more abuse/stupidity, which definitely is a factor when making these types of decisions.



Marco's 9 second supra @ GLD - and thats a street car.

Only Vosko is crazy enough to regularly drag his 7

Negative, Ghostrider.



Ol' Steve Kan was drag racing his FD back when Vosko was in junior high https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png.



I've prolly got about 150 passes down the strip on my rex, and I know of many guys that drag theirs every weekend......

Yup, there are alot of guys racing Fd's.

has he also found a solution for the customers to get their money back for paying for R/I of turbos 3 times? the ones who had to have 3 different sets installed to get a set that did not smoke... or if the mechanic was nice enough to do it 3 times for free any money? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png





dave- yes that white FD is making the numbers it claims. i have seen the thing run and it is impressive!



WishIhadaRX7- you are absolutly right!! vosko is the ONLY person EVER who races an FD... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif stop swinging from his nuts, i am sure they hurt at this point. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png LOL!!