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FikseRxSeven 05-13-2005 01:32 PM

well my alternator crapped out, and i sourced out a place that will change the stator, and paint the alternator to whatever color you want for $255



better price than $500 from

http://www.mazsport.net/

GreyGT-C 05-13-2005 03:09 PM

i had my alternator rebuilt a few years ago for about $35.

nopistons94 05-13-2005 03:36 PM

at 200 ampszzzz ?

FikseRxSeven 05-13-2005 03:39 PM

yeah 200amps



he's charging me 50 to rebuild it.



www.escessiveamperage.com

naponome 05-13-2005 04:02 PM

Does the amperage outputted by the alternator fluctuate with rpm? and if I have a 200amp fuse attached to my battery, will this alternator set it off all the time?

Cheers! 05-13-2005 04:03 PM

the higher the current rating the more parasitic loss you have. Keep that in mind. The difference between a S5TII one and FD one is 3 HP. 3 HP is a lot. I spend 500 bucks to get like 50 hp.

FikseRxSeven 05-13-2005 05:50 PM

thanks for the info, ill contact the alternator guy to see how much more parasitic loss i will get with that alternator

teknics 05-14-2005 11:07 AM

if you really want the extra horsepower on a dyno or drag strip, get twin batteries and disconnect the alt. at the staging lanes or just before you dyno. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png.



kevin.

nopistons94 05-14-2005 11:11 AM

if you really want the extra 3 hp, hire a 65 lb 4'9 guy to drive the car... I mean 3 hp, I'd rather have my car run better with a 200 amp alt and not worry about 3 hp honestly...

FikseRxSeven 05-14-2005 03:18 PM

[quote name='teknics' date='May 14 2005, 11:07 AM']if you really want the extra horsepower on a dyno or drag strip, get twin batteries and disconnect the alt. at the staging lanes or just before you dyno. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png.



kevin.

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wouldnt that mess up the tuning on the car if all of a sudden it lose some parasites?

teknics 05-15-2005 02:28 PM

[quote name='FikseRxSeven' date='May 14 2005, 03:18 PM']wouldnt that mess up the tuning on the car if all of a sudden it lose some parasites?

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if its a 3hp gain, i really find it unlike that youd even notice it to be honest.



if you really wanted 3 extra horsepower just finetune your ecu more. this talk of 3hp is silly.



kevin.

nopistons94 05-15-2005 02:32 PM

yes yes, like I said 3 HP can be determined by many factors including amount of gas in the car, wind, weight of driver, Ect ect ... 3hp is just silly

Cheers! 05-16-2005 07:08 AM

How is it that 200 amps will run better than 110 amp alternator? Are you exceeding 110 amps for your total current draw on your car?

turbovr6 05-16-2005 07:41 AM

unless you have some massive stereo system, or 60000 lights on your car there is no need for a 200 amp alt. Bigger is not allways better!

ColinRX7 05-16-2005 09:12 AM

Are you sure there are windings available to increase amperage that much?



I had an S4 FC alt rebuild from 65 amp and brought up to "100" amps, afterwards I found out you can't buy windings anywhere that increase amperage for the size of the S4 casing



Long story short I got gyped by alot of hot-air from a rebuild shop

treceb 05-16-2005 01:22 PM

i was told to change the battery...but well see. my interior lights dim noticeably when i step on the brakes at night.

Cheers! 05-16-2005 01:51 PM

[quote name='treceb' date='May 16 2005, 01:22 PM']i was told to change the battery...but well see. my interior lights dim noticeably when i step on the brakes at night.

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Maybe you should fix yuor grounds and clean up the terminals for your headlamps/relays with some sandpaper and some dielectric grease.

FikseRxSeven 05-16-2005 07:06 PM

well i got the alternator rebuilt for now, and the other one that i have that also crapped out (chrome one) will be sent to either be just rebuilt or maybe reamped, dunno yet.



the main reason i was thinking of uping the amperage is because im running 2 fuel pumps, 2 sets of HID's and fog lights, ignition amp, planning on some kind of sound system in the future... and

pianoprodigy 05-23-2005 07:50 PM

I have the Mazsport alternator (he's my mechanic). The problem with rebuilding the stock alternator (that type, I forget what brand they are) is that they won't make much more amperage at idle. If someone is telling you that you'll get 200A out of the alternator, I think you're being misled.

pianoprodigy 05-23-2005 07:59 PM

Here is a picture of the alternator installed in my car. As you can see, it is a very beefy unit. It makes 100A at idle and 200A max. The stock alternator only makes 40A at idle and 100A max.



http://www.alantripp.com/alternatorout.JPG

treceb 05-24-2005 02:39 PM

where can i get one of those? i think montego blue owners should get one at a discount...

wolfgang 05-24-2005 03:11 PM

what are u running that requires 200amps? A small carnival? my 79 Sa has a 15 amp alternator, and my 2003 protege (with a 200w stereo, car computer, etc...) runs a 55 amp and only draws like 43amps peak.

treceb 05-24-2005 05:07 PM

a true 200w stereo will draw more than 55 amps.

FikseRxSeven 05-24-2005 06:43 PM

[quote name='pianoprodigy' date='May 23 2005, 07:50 PM']I have the Mazsport alternator (he's my mechanic). The problem with rebuilding the stock alternator (that type, I forget what brand they are) is that they won't make much more amperage at idle. If someone is telling you that you'll get 200A out of the alternator, I think you're being misled.

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i only had it rebuilt to stock specs, wich costed me 50 bucks, and 200amps is more




Here is a picture of the alternator installed in my car. As you can see, it is a very beefy unit. It makes 100A at idle and 200A max. The stock alternator only makes 40A at idle and 100A max.


this guy makes alternators for a living, and his alternators come with warranty so i dont think he'd screw anyone over. lets see what happens, i decided to just get the alternator i have rebuilt because the voltage regulator is fucked up, so if it comes back and i dont have any further issues with it, i wont even send out the other one to get reamped.

Cheers! 05-24-2005 06:52 PM

[quote name='wolfgang' date='May 24 2005, 03:11 PM']what are u running that requires 200amps? A small carnival? my 79 Sa has a 15 amp alternator, and my 2003 protege (with a 200w stereo, car computer, etc...) runs a 55 amp and only draws like 43amps peak.

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A tig/stick welder... Just stick a tig attachment onto the battery and you can fix any body work on your car!

pianoprodigy 05-30-2005 05:11 PM

[quote name='wolfgang' date='May 24 2005, 04:11 PM']what are u running that requires 200amps? A small carnival? my 79 Sa has a 15 amp alternator, and my 2003 protege (with a 200w stereo, car computer, etc...) runs a 55 amp and only draws like 43amps peak.

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AC on, headlights on, 2 fuel pumps, 3 MSDs, Microtech LT8 with display, 4 electric fans, Eclipse HU, Polk 350W RMS sub amp, Polk 150W RMS x 2 amp for components, and a Profec-B Spec II. All of that pulls 90A at idle. The stock FD amplifier puts out 40A at idle (I bought a brand new one and tried it for a while), so it is grossly insufficient for my setup.



These can be purchased through Mazsport. Their contact information is in my sig.


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