Well i have to T04E and i'm looking at runnin more boost i also have a PowerFC which i would like to get the datalogit for. So i wanted to either get 1300 or 1600 CC secondary injectors. I wanted to know which ones you guy's would get i'm planing on runnin no more than 17 psi of boost. Also if you coudl tell me where i can get step my step instructions on how to put em in that woudl be great. The only other thing is shoudl i upgrade my primary ones too?



Thanks for all the help.

Opps will one of the mods move this please i ment to post in in 3'rd gen my bad.

17 psi is out of the effeciency range of a t-04E...why would you want to boost that with a small turbo?

I just know that the max i can boost is 17 psi due to my sensors i'm only norm goin to do 15 psi.

stick to 15psi or get a bigger turbo.. no use in blowing hot air...

I have a FMIC so there's no hot air goin into my engine.

since 17psi is out of that turbos efficiency rating, if you run 17psi the turbo starts to be inefficient and heats up the air it forces into the engine...



Cool air = good.

Yea i know it starts to heat air too much but the FMIC will help keep it cool even at high boost. Like a said i dont plan on running more than 15 ever anyway. But that wasent my question any way my question was what size injectors to use and how to install them.

I have the to4e. I run 1600's. plenty of fuel.



but the rail/injector combo kit from sportcar motion.

as far as the install it's not that hard, you basically take out the one rail and put in the other. But you do need a datalogit to program the PFC to run them correctly

Now i can use the datalogit with out a commander right. It just plugs into the commander port on the PFC and the other end goes into my laptop. I dont want to have to go but a commander if i dont have to. My laptop sits around my house doing nothing allday any way so i think it would be cool to just permently attach it to my car https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Your missing the point here...once a turbo gets out of it's effeciency range, it doesn't matter what FMIC you put on it, it'll STILL be too hot.



Also, you want the commander. Trust me. Ask ANYBODY that has a PFC...guarantee you that even if they have the datalogit...they'd still HIGHLY RECOMMEND getting the commander.

No i'm not missing the point i dont plan on ever running 17 psi. And i cant afford the commander and the datalogit at this point so i have to pick on and then i can get one or the other in a few months when i have the money. I just bought a new engine and rebuilt my turbo dont have the money for both right now. So i think the datalogit is the better of the 2 for now. It's not liek i'll be changing things all the time i just want to adjust for the 1600 CC and then set my boost to 15 psi.

Then why not slow down and WAIT until you can afford both. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Is it true you dont use the old splash gaurds and o-rings from the origanal secondary injectors?

Ok quick solution. Buy the commander. Get with someone that has Dataloggit to set the profile for your car and fine tune it later. What people are trying to tell you is to pay attention. They are trying to help you not to make the mistakes they might have or know will not work. With the amount of memebers on this board and other RX-7 forums I am sure there is someone in your area that would love nothing more than to stop by and give you a hand in this adventure. Having a new rebuild on your turbo, and your engine I am sure you want it all right when you decide to get on it. You posted all the information you were trying to do at once. These guys saw red flags flying, they are just trying to help. Take this as a blessing and not a hit on your ego. If more than 2 people are trying to tell you something is wrong, you might want to sit back and rethink what you are doing.

You do not use the splash guards again or the O-ring....You have to remove them in order to make the injectors sit right. Also you need to cut a small piece of 5/8 inch hose and put it on the injectors to make sure it seals good. Just stick it on the fuel rail and see how much still sticks out and then cut a piece of hose a little bigger then that length. It's pretty straightforward, except you have to buy different injector clips, at least for the 1600's you do.

seems like your rushing it. SAVE YOUR MONEY. You want both...not one or the other.

Sorry if i came off as a little pissed in my last post. I just had my wisdom teeth pulled on friday and these meds are reallly messin with me. But any way's i see where you are coming from. I could just save up for both, but your saying that if i can find someone with the datalogit to go ahead and get the commander? Also what are the red flags the last thing i need is to blow up this engine. I didnt think i was harming the engine by putting 1600 CC inj on it. Other than more boost, more power, more wear.

The red flag I noticed was when you got defensive about someone telling you that you should not run 17psi on that turbo. Understanding the efficiency of a turbo is ket to its power output. Having a FMIC does not mean you will automatically take all of that heated air down to a good power making level. Once the FMIC becomes heatsoaked from the input air from the turbo you will begin to lose power. I wish I could remember the formula off the top of my head, but its close to 10° in temp drop = 1 hp gained. And depending on the efficiency of your FMIC, you may not be able to make the required temp drop running the boost level up that high. Although in the later post you said you would not run above 15 psi, the thought was there that you may take away the gains you would make at 17psi because of the heat. Hope this makes sense

Right i understand i cant run 17 psi and that any thing above 15 psi will cause to much heat now. But there is no prob in running the 1600 CC @ 15 psi right.

correct.