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Old 06-23-2003, 08:45 AM
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Microtech if you are on a budget



latech if you can afford it
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Old 06-29-2003, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jun 22 2003, 09:11 AM
the more load points under atmosphere is smoke and mirrors. generally you have a load vs injection time vs rpm fuel map. if you have a 1 bar map sensor you have a load range of -15psi to 0 psi. if you have a 2 bar map sensor you have

-15psi to 15psi load range. so your na more load points under atmosphere microtech is the same as me using a 1 bar map sensor on my haltech.

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Go into the E6K, and look at your fuel map. Then go to Setup -> Main setup and change your MAP sensor setting to 1BAR or 2 BAR. See if you gain any more resolution under atmospheric. You don't.



Hardly "smoke and mirrors".



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Old 06-29-2003, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by No7Yet' date='Jun 29 2003, 06:56 AM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jun 22 2003, 09:11 AM']the more load points under atmosphere is smoke and mirrors. generally you have a load vs injection time vs rpm fuel map. if you have a 1 bar map sensor you have a load range of -15psi to 0 psi. if you have a 2 bar map sensor you have

-15psi to 15psi load range. so your na more load points under atmosphere microtech is the same as me using a 1 bar map sensor on my haltech.

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Go into the E6K, and look at your fuel map. Then go to Setup -> Main setup and change your MAP sensor setting to 1BAR or 2 BAR. See if you gain any more resolution under atmospheric. You don't.



Hardly "smoke and mirrors".



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http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showthread.p...light=microtech



personally i would look into autronic... they seem to have a pretty cool setup. But the haltech support for rotaries is top notch.



The fact that there are so many people using haltech and have such a big base of knowledgable people would make me want to sway towards haltech.



E11 would be sweet if they could get all the bugs out.



E6K is what i would go for if my original harness burnt to a crisp.
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Old 06-29-2003, 12:59 PM
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I'll give up my electromotive when you pry it from my cold dead hands. Actually i may step up to a tec3 when i redo the car over winter.
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Old 06-29-2003, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by No7Yet' date='Jun 29 2003, 02:56 PM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jun 22 2003, 09:11 AM']the more load points under atmosphere is smoke and mirrors. generally you have a load vs injection time vs rpm fuel map. if you have a 1 bar map sensor you have a load range of -15psi to 0 psi. if you have a 2 bar map sensor you have

-15psi to 15psi load range. so your na more load points under atmosphere microtech is the same as me using a 1 bar map sensor on my haltech.

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Go into the E6K, and look at your fuel map. Then go to Setup -> Main setup and change your MAP sensor setting to 1BAR or 2 BAR. See if you gain any more resolution under atmospheric. You don't.



Hardly "smoke and mirrors".



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um? actually, you have a fixed # of bars available in the e6k software (load points), when you use the 1 bar, -15 to 0 consumes all the bars, so yes you get increased resolution with the 1 bar on the e6k vs the 2 bar or 3 bar, because on the 2 bar or 3 bar you have the same # of load points (bars in the software), but they are divided up among a larger range, making it coarser grained than the 1 bar. do you need me to take screenshots of the e6k software to demonstrate?



I hope not, because I'd have to get dosemu working on my linux laptop if so, and that doesnt sound like fun without a network connection.
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Old 06-29-2003, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Jun 29 2003, 12:14 PM
[quote name='No7Yet' date='Jun 29 2003, 06:56 AM'] [quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jun 22 2003, 09:11 AM']the more load points under atmosphere is smoke and mirrors. generally you have a load vs injection time vs rpm fuel map. if you have a 1 bar map sensor you have a load range of -15psi to 0 psi. if you have a 2 bar map sensor you have

-15psi to 15psi load range. so your na more load points under atmosphere microtech is the same as me using a 1 bar map sensor on my haltech.

<snip>

mike
Go into the E6K, and look at your fuel map. Then go to Setup -> Main setup and change your MAP sensor setting to 1BAR or 2 BAR. See if you gain any more resolution under atmospheric. You don't.



Hardly "smoke and mirrors".



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http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showthread.p...light=microtech



personally i would look into autronic... they seem to have a pretty cool setup. But the haltech support for rotaries is top notch.



The fact that there are so many people using haltech and have such a big base of knowledgable people would make me want to sway towards haltech.



E11 would be sweet if they could get all the bugs out.



E6K is what i would go for if my original harness burnt to a crisp. [/quote]

That is why I went with Haltech, and i have local tuners that are good with Haltech, They probably have never even heard of microtech...
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Old 06-29-2003, 01:53 PM
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Mea culpa - I went and looked again, and yes, the E6K does 'realign' the bars. I was expecting to see the software reinterpolate the curve and drop the high-boost values. I stand corrected.



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I have the Microtech LT8... it works.. it does what it's suppose to do.. so.. i can't complain.. I think my bill was something like 720 or so shipped w/hand controller, laptop interface, and software for it..



so is the haltech worth the extra 300 bills.. maybe.. but for my applications.. I'm fine with what i've got.
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Originally Posted by Blink' date='Jun 29 2003, 04:36 PM
I have the Microtech LT8... it works.. it does what it's suppose to do.. so.. i can't complain.. I think my bill was something like 720 or so shipped w/hand controller, laptop interface, and software for it..



so is the haltech worth the extra 300 bills.. maybe.. but for my applications.. I'm fine with what i've got.
When you come by we can peep each other's setup I am interested in how the microtech works/setup, in person ofcourse..
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Old 06-29-2003, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Blink' date='Jun 29 2003, 09:36 PM
I have the Microtech LT8... it works.. it does what it's suppose to do.. so.. i can't complain.. I think my bill was something like 720 or so shipped w/hand controller, laptop interface, and software for it..



so is the haltech worth the extra 300 bills.. maybe.. but for my applications.. I'm fine with what i've got.
does the LT8 support knock retard?
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