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j9fd3s 03-04-2003 07:04 PM

the autronic systems do knock retard, they have a self learning, and trction control, but no leading and trailing split



mike

vosko 03-04-2003 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 07:59 PM
how would that happen? wouldnt it retard the trailing ?



yeah that doesnt make much sense to me at all vosko, it shouldnt be any different from retarding the timing manually by turning the CAS for instance, and it would be just a few degrees probably unless you've got some serious problems.

well a J&S can only retard leading. as far as i know they can only do leading ? but i could be wrong

pengaru 03-04-2003 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Mar 5 2003, 01:13 AM
[quote name='pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 07:59 PM'] how would that happen? wouldnt it retard the trailing ?



yeah that doesnt make much sense to me at all vosko, it shouldnt be any different from retarding the timing manually by turning the CAS for instance, and it would be just a few degrees probably unless you've got some serious problems.

well a J&S can only retard leading. as far as i know they can only do leading ? but i could be wrong [/quote]

tec3 != j&s

vosko 03-04-2003 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 08:15 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Mar 5 2003, 01:13 AM'] [quote name='pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 07:59 PM'] how would that happen? wouldnt it retard the trailing ?



yeah that doesnt make much sense to me at all vosko, it shouldnt be any different from retarding the timing manually by turning the CAS for instance, and it would be just a few degrees probably unless you've got some serious problems.

well a J&S can only retard leading. as far as i know they can only do leading ? but i could be wrong [/quote]

tec3 != j&s [/quote]

i don't think TEC III or any other EMS can do 100% knock retard on a rotary.... i could be wrong

j9fd3s 03-04-2003 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Mar 4 2003, 05:16 PM
[quote name='pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 08:15 PM'] [quote name='vosko' date='Mar 5 2003, 01:13 AM'] [quote name='pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 07:59 PM'] how would that happen? wouldnt it retard the trailing ?



yeah that doesnt make much sense to me at all vosko, it shouldnt be any different from retarding the timing manually by turning the CAS for instance, and it would be just a few degrees probably unless you've got some serious problems.

well a J&S can only retard leading. as far as i know they can only do leading ? but i could be wrong [/quote]

tec3 != j&s [/quote]

i don't think TEC III or any other EMS can do 100% knock retard on a rotary.... i could be wrong [/quote]

i'm not really sure either, it would be nice to have some sort of warning though



mike

1Revvin7 03-04-2003 07:23 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/index.php?...hl=knock+sensor



I bumped my old thread up so we could get some more input

7mech 03-08-2003 08:09 PM

Wow!! Ummm!!! I'm not sure what to think now. I wish I knew about this before hand. I guess I didn't do enough research. I'm sure when Steve Kan tunes my car he will do a great job, but I'm a little worried about the fuel that I get in this town. I always run 93 octane but I don't think that it's the gratest. Is there a way that I can ensure that the fuel in my car is good? If I add some octane booster will it help to clean up the fuel so that I don't experience bad knock?

pengaru 03-08-2003 09:19 PM

'octane booster' only increases your octane by a few points, so like, adding one bottle to a tank of 93 will make it like 93.2 or something, it's relatively useles...



adding significant amounts of xylene or toluene can make a huge difference though, this archive is kindof interesting:

http://www.eng-tips.com/gpviewthread.cfm/q.../lev2/6/lev3/35

j9fd3s 03-09-2003 11:56 AM

that second guy was right, a couple years ago vp103 was only like 3.80 a gallon delivered to your house



mike

7mech 03-09-2003 10:09 PM

Umm that was like going back to chem class in highschool. I didn't understand a word some of those guys said, but I got your point that octane boost is a total waste of money and time. From now on I will run 93 octane and if I plan on doing some serious racing I will mix it with some race gas or just run race gas.


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