Warped Rotor Housing?
06-01-2005, 07:46 PM
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hello, got a hold of a 90 vert. It will start, but it idles very rough, and has a top speed of 10-15 mph... if you try to give it more gas then that, it just makes noise through the intake (kinda howling) and when it does that creates NO power at all. If you pull the air cleaner and cover the air intake with your hand, it will rev up, but other than that you cant get it to go over 2500 rpm. You can drive the car for a block or so at a time before it dies, then you need to let it sit for a while before it will restart. The car had a bad radiator in it and the guy SAID he didnt overheat it, but my suspicion is that he overheated it and warped a rotor housing. Does this sound like a good diagnosis? or should I be looking into something else. The car is at a friends house now, and needs to be towed here. if i'm wrong about the diagnosis and can fix it there and drive it home, that would be great.
06-01-2005, 07:49 PM
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This should be moved to 2nd gen forum
To do a quick compression test, remove the lead plug on the front rotor housing, disconnect the EGI fuse, and crank the motor. Listen for wooshing that will be constant, like a train.. (choo choo choo choo).
If it sounds more like a galloping horse (choo ...... choo choo ..... choo) then you are missing compression on the rotor somewhere. Obviously if there is no wooshing, there is no compression.
Do this one rotor housing at a time, make sure the EGI fuse is disconnected.
This will help determine if it's a raw motor/compression problem or some kind of injection/ignition problem.
To do a quick compression test, remove the lead plug on the front rotor housing, disconnect the EGI fuse, and crank the motor. Listen for wooshing that will be constant, like a train.. (choo choo choo choo).
If it sounds more like a galloping horse (choo ...... choo choo ..... choo) then you are missing compression on the rotor somewhere. Obviously if there is no wooshing, there is no compression.
Do this one rotor housing at a time, make sure the EGI fuse is disconnected.
This will help determine if it's a raw motor/compression problem or some kind of injection/ignition problem.
06-01-2005, 07:51 PM
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Oh BTW welcome to the forum, the car is very nice looking, hope to hear it's running again smoothly soon.
BTW what do you mean by it will rev with the air cleaner out... If the problems are solved with the air cleaner removed, buy a new air cleaner...
BTW what do you mean by it will rev with the air cleaner out... If the problems are solved with the air cleaner removed, buy a new air cleaner...
06-01-2005, 09:04 PM
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[quote name='ColinRX7' date='Jun 1 2005, 04:51 PM']BTW what do you mean by it will rev with the air cleaner out... If the problems are solved with the air cleaner removed, buy a new air cleaner...
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thanks for hte welcome... I wish it was as simple as dropping in a new air filter.... if you pull the air filter, reach down inside the air box and block the flow to the afm, it will rev up, take your hand out, it bogs
also bogs with or without the air filter
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thanks for hte welcome... I wish it was as simple as dropping in a new air filter.... if you pull the air filter, reach down inside the air box and block the flow to the afm, it will rev up, take your hand out, it bogs
also bogs with or without the air filter
06-02-2005, 01:24 PM
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[quote name='Baldy' date='Jun 2 2005, 07:50 AM']Any smoke from the exhaust?
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very small amount of smoke, not any more than the other rotaries I've owned. Its got a coolant leack (top seam of radiator) and the guy said he had a huge puddle underneath it one day, and since then it had a rough and uneven idle, he SAYS he didnt overheat it, but I'm thinking he did. Thats why I'm suspecting warped housing, especially since it runs a little bit till it gets hot, then dies.
I guess that could be somethign else heat related though :\ I'll check the compression tomorrow, never made it home with the car, wound up making it 4 blocks from the guys house then having to tow it to my father in laws house. Wont be able to go over there till tomorrow
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very small amount of smoke, not any more than the other rotaries I've owned. Its got a coolant leack (top seam of radiator) and the guy said he had a huge puddle underneath it one day, and since then it had a rough and uneven idle, he SAYS he didnt overheat it, but I'm thinking he did. Thats why I'm suspecting warped housing, especially since it runs a little bit till it gets hot, then dies.
I guess that could be somethign else heat related though :\ I'll check the compression tomorrow, never made it home with the car, wound up making it 4 blocks from the guys house then having to tow it to my father in laws house. Wont be able to go over there till tomorrow
06-02-2005, 01:37 PM
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".... if you pull the air filter, reach down inside the air box and block the flow to the afm, it will rev up, take your hand out, it bogs"
Sounds to me like a big vac leak, or maybe a stuck AFM.
CEL??
Sounds to me like a big vac leak, or maybe a stuck AFM.
CEL??