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abnoea 06-18-2007 09:56 PM

Alright, so ive had my rx7 for almost a year now and i love the little thing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/bowdown.gif , but i would like even more from it >=D



Looking around at forums and such has lead me to believe that the best way to do this would be a turbo swap or just adding a turbo onto it. Seeing as im 16 and make all my moneys during the summer which would be the best way for me to do it?

buying an s4 turbo II and swapping it in? (also, ive read some bad things about JDM, are these true?)

sticking a turbo on my NA and just changing a few parts?

buying a turbo II rx7 (really not ideal seeing as i live in nebraska and ive only seen 4 other rx7s around)



any opinions and insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

RotaryVillain 06-19-2007 05:25 AM

honestly man if you only have one car i wouldnt turn your only rx7 into a turbo project.

if you really want a turbo rx7 your MUCH better off just buying one and keeping your non turbo as a daily driver.

jdm engines vary greatly in quality , although SOME get away just installing as is and its ok MOST dont and no reputable engine builder would recommend installing a jdm engine WITHOUt rebuilding it first!

keep in mind also that to do the TII swap CORRECTLY you pretty much need the whole tii anyways because you'd want the tranny rear end & axles.

djmtsu 06-19-2007 08:10 AM

Bah, I've been using the NA driveline for 2 years now with no issues. But that aside-



If you work fast and have the ability a TII swap shouldn't take but a few hours.



Get an S4TII from a JDM supplier, have it shipped to Rotary Resurrection, have it rebuild with no emissions and a streetport, ask him to put an NA flywheel on it. In the meantime, locate the items the engine might not come with, AFM, ECU, Boost sensor, ect. If you can , source an S5 turbo and manifold and install those before you put the engine in.



Easy as pie, and inexpensive way to get the swap done and on the road.

toplessFC3Sman 06-19-2007 02:13 PM

$arm

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djmtsu 06-19-2007 03:03 PM

$testicle

1Revvin7 06-19-2007 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by djmtsu' post='875537' date='Jun 19 2007, 08:10 AM

Bah, I've been using the NA driveline for 2 years now with no issues. But that aside-



If you work fast and have the ability a TII swap shouldn't take but a few hours.



Get an S4TII from a JDM supplier, have it shipped to Rotary Resurrection, have it rebuild with no emissions and a streetport, ask him to put an NA flywheel on it. In the meantime, locate the items the engine might not come with, AFM, ECU, Boost sensor, ect. If you can , source an S5 turbo and manifold and install those before you put the engine in.



Easy as pie, and inexpensive way to get the swap done and on the road.



Depends on how you drive and how much power you have. I see broken t2 drivetrains every other week...

One320B 06-19-2007 04:49 PM

Diddo revvin - there is no way an NA tranny would put up with even a little turbo abuse on the autox or time attack, lol. Stop driving your car like a grandma https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif





Everything else aside, at 16 - don't get involved with a project car, seriously. You want a turbo rx7, go out and buy a turboII. I know money is tight at that age unless you've got rich and understanding parents, otherwise, project cars are no fun. You could sell your NA and buy a T2, but it may take a little extra cash and you might have to do a little road trip.



My friends and I have driven hundreds of miles to get a clean T2. My one buddy drove from VA to upstate NY on a thursday just to LOOK at an '87 T2. It was super clean, he came home the same day then drove BACK on Sat to get it... good cars are worth the drive.

djmtsu 06-19-2007 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by One320B' post='875600' date='Jun 19 2007, 04:49 PM

Diddo revvin - there is no way an NA tranny would put up with even a little turbo abuse on the autox or time attack, lol. Stop driving your car like a grandma https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif



I don't autoX, or do time attack. This is a street car. But I do go to Deals Gap every year and beat the living **** out of it. And when I drive her on the weekends, I'm not friendly either.



If you don't miss shifts, you should have little worries.

One320B 06-19-2007 05:07 PM

Lol, I dont miss shifts - i guess i just make too much power for the NA's max (and thats the later ribbed NA tranny too, the earlier ones probably wont even take that much abuse)..



If you do have the NA tranny thats ribbed I think you'll get more luck..those early smooth trans suck!

teknics 06-19-2007 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by One320B' post='875600' date='Jun 19 2007, 05:49 PM

My friends and I have driven hundreds of miles to get a clean T2. My one buddy drove from VA to upstate NY on a thursday just to LOOK at an '87 T2. It was super clean, he came home the same day then drove BACK on Sat to get it... good cars are worth the drive.



i dont even want to list the trips ive taken for stuff. hell NJ to pittsburgh = 6hours and over 300 miles each way i drove nonstop in a 91 suburban to pick up and tow an NA all the way home with me...and a broken NA at that.



then i drove from NJ to one320b's place in VA to pickup just a motor....in that same n/a i bought.



damn i need to stop taking trips...except for when i drive out to sevenstock



kevin.

j9fd3s 06-20-2007 02:14 PM

lol, i dont go more than 15 minutes for anything. its kind of a guideline though, not a rule

djmtsu 06-20-2007 02:23 PM

Longest I ever drove for a part was from Nashville to Knoxville to get my engine from Landers.



Otherwise, over 20 miles, ship that ****!!

turborotor 06-20-2007 03:39 PM

I'm turning my Vert into TII.



So far,



TII drivetrain $400

Engine $400 + over haul kit which I'll be doing myself so that would about 600 on top of that for seals and gaskets depending on what get's replaced.



This is my second NA to TII status change on another car. First time was much expensive.

abnoea 06-20-2007 04:04 PM

being that im only 16 i dont quite have the resources to travel the country looking for a tII so i would really prefer to do the swap myself, and i want to learn more about my car and how it operates... so doing a swap would help me on that front as well.

But if its something that i really shouldnt be starting i would have to start saving and looking until i could find a TII and sell my na



additionally, I guess the question i was really looking to get answered is:

Would it be totally absurd for someone like me (no hands-on experience under the hood) to do a turbo swap for a fair price?

and other than JDM how could i line up all the needed parts? i.e. tranny/ecu/wiring without getting the wrong stuff?



im really oblivious when it comes to this kind of stuff but i do want to learn!



and, another thing ive been wondering, is there anywhere you can buy kits to build your own 13b?



man, im just full of noob questions =)

djmtsu 06-20-2007 07:18 PM

www.rotaryresurrection.com

djmtsu 06-20-2007 07:37 PM

I have most of the TII driveline in my attic, but I am waiting until the NA stuff grenades first.



If it aint broke don't fix it right!!



I still need to get a flywheel, and diff. Once the driveline swap occurs I am installing all the stiff mounts (collecting dust)



I am still working on more power first!!!


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