Top Mount Air Intake?
06-12-2003, 02:03 PM
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Actually the air in the spot that the scoop is in really isn't that low in pressure. It could still work. I say take some carbon fiber and make a box out of it and permenately attatch it to the bottom side of the scoop with some screws and weather stripping (for seal). Place the largest flat/square filter inside the box. Plumb your piping(aluminium preferably) wrapped in header/exhaust wrap to keep out the heat. When cutting the piping, cut it in 2 pieces. One from the box going half way to the turbo or TB and the other from this pipe to the turbo or TB. Put some sort of quick release coupler in the middle so that the hood can be opened without doing any major work or destroying your intake system. Somebody try this and let me know how it works. BTW all the materials mentioned here are only suggested. Feel free to use what you want. Also I suggest putting some heat sheilding in under the box.
06-12-2003, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotaryman13b' date='Jun 12 2003, 02:13 PM
The low pressure zone in the front of the car by the grill is called the stagnation point air particles are being forced to slow down and particle counts get packed like a britney spears concert, with no option to go forward air partcles turn away from the car and start accelerating up and over the the hood of car
I knew the lines were for pressure, and that faster moving fluids have lower pressure, I just didn't know how that happened to the front of the hood
thanks for the clarification
06-13-2003, 02:18 PM
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7Mech I am not too keen on having the intake bolted on to the hood, personally I even with having a quick release it will still be a pain to access come the time you have to change your air filter. Plus what about rain?? lets not for get "water bad" so the intake design has to incorporate some form of water trap, preventing water from intering the air intake ducting.
So I still like the Idea of having the air intake assembly mounted in the place of the intercooler, should the it be possible for it to work. So I did some CG renderings of the concept I came up with, by no means are they complete, but they illustrate the idea.
If you want to check them out
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Greg
So I still like the Idea of having the air intake assembly mounted in the place of the intercooler, should the it be possible for it to work. So I did some CG renderings of the concept I came up with, by no means are they complete, but they illustrate the idea.
If you want to check them out
click here
Greg
06-13-2003, 02:27 PM
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I think the heat rising from the motor would counteract the effect you are looking for. The air is quite a bit cooler in the front bumper area, you would get more airflow, and wouldn't have to worry about water as much as you would with your current intake design.
Why not design us something nice to put up front or back by the cowl?
Why not design us something nice to put up front or back by the cowl?
06-15-2003, 03:42 PM
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I really believe air is nicely ramed in a TII hood. Ok, the picture shows a low pressure area in that part of the hood. So what?
On an airplane wing there is a big low pressure area on it. On the top of the wing.
Rest assured there is airflow over the top of the wing. If there wasn't the plane would not fly. The only place there is stagnent air is the thin boundry layer.
The car's nose is like a wing. Air flows under the car and the air flows over the top of the car. The nose acts like a pseudo wing.
That scoop works. I wish I had some way to prove it.
On an airplane wing there is a big low pressure area on it. On the top of the wing.
Rest assured there is airflow over the top of the wing. If there wasn't the plane would not fly. The only place there is stagnent air is the thin boundry layer.
The car's nose is like a wing. Air flows under the car and the air flows over the top of the car. The nose acts like a pseudo wing.
That scoop works. I wish I had some way to prove it.
06-15-2003, 04:57 PM
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Just put a wind meter sensor in the scoop and run a wire from it so that you can get a read out while driving. Record these reading and then move the sensor into the nose of the car where you'd place a cone filter. Take the readings there and compare to see which is gattine more air/air velocity. You could also put an air temp sensor in there with them too and compare air temps.