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Hey guys, I test drove a NA 88 today and was expecting a bit more. The car was completely stock with a claimed rebuild. The motor didnt smoke at all or anything out of the ordinary, other than a bit of sputtering until it got warmed up. The thing that surprised me though, is that the car had no pep to it at all, and there was no pull in power. The car just kind of went forward, with no pull involved. The tach didnt go up that quick either.
Is this normal with stock NA's, and will a few simple intake / exhaust uncorking mods make a very noticable difference? |
The N/As arent that fast, but they dont hesitate when you rev em.
Maybe this one had a problem like a plugged cat or two. Fairly common. |
i got a n/a 88, Granted its not the fast but there quick. There is a noticeable diffrence with I/H/E set up. Next step in mine though is street porting.
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question is, what are you used to? if you are use to a forced induction car, you will never be impressed with a stock n/a. rx-7's that are not turbo'd are not impressive in straight line, but they can be very impressive on a curved road. drive it again, and go all balls out on a curved road, you should be impressed.
things that help alot with n/a rx-7's is suspension modifications. |
5 speed or automatic? That too makes a huge difference, so I've heard.
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Yeah, not real sure why you're expecting performance out of a car that dosent break 200hp and is 17 years old https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif
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Originally Posted by sweet7' post='774257' date='Oct 31 2005, 02:01 PM
Yeah, not real sure why you're expecting performance out of a car that dosent break 200hp and is 17 years old https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif You could spend 5k and still not break 200rwhp on a N/A. And you can always say peri-port, but if you can do a peri-port with the supporting fuel mods, ecu, etc. tell me where to sign up. Also helps if everything is in working order also. Something that is 17 years old is BOUND to have a problem. Either a small, or a serious problem. |
ill second that, the day i had the car i had to repace the driveaxle (ujoint problem) and rearend mount. And 2 months later i had to get a new tranny for it. Also replaced the slave cylinder 3 times and the master cylinder and hose once.
The car is fun to drive. I really injoy mine. I know its not the fastest thing on the road but its still alot of fun and it keeps the civics away from me https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png |
Originally Posted by rowtareh' post='774261' date='Oct 31 2005, 02:07 PM
You could spend 5k and still not break 200rwhp on a N/A. And you can always say peri-port, but if you can do a peri-port with the supporting fuel mods, ecu, etc. tell me where to sign up. |
If i get mine street ported and piggy back the ecu. With I/H/E on the car would it hit 200RWH?
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Originally Posted by RONIN FC' post='774270' date='Oct 31 2005, 02:37 PM
You could spend $500 and "break" 200HP with a bottle of N.O.S. Pretty safely too. It just depends on what your goals and needs are and how hard a road you wanna take. And 200 hp doesnt sound like much when you see 450+ HP turbo rx7s. But thats 200 rwhp in a car that weighs about the same as a Honda Civic. Prove it to me. I know somebody that had a 75 shot on his 88 N/A. The engine had 121k on the motor with compression at 90psi front rotor, and 60psi rear rotor. Again, not a good idea. I do agree with the lightness of the car, and the fact you can make it lighter. Still, 200whp on a N/A would be a nice thing to have. |
what was ito's vert doing again?
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Yes it was a 5 speed. I wasnt expecting it to be uber duber fast, I just expected it to have a high rpm rotary rush. I'm used to fast cars, but I was just wondering about the rush. We couldnt test it on a curvey road becuase the brakes mysteriously went out before we arrived.
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Originally Posted by bushy' post='774331' date='Oct 31 2005, 07:12 PM
Yes it was a 5 speed. I wasnt expecting it to be uber duber fast, I just expected it to have a high rpm rotary rush. I'm used to fast cars, but I was just wondering about the rush. We couldnt test it on a curvey road becuase the brakes mysteriously went out before we arrived. Haha, I would leave that pig to the junkyard if the brakes "MYSTERIOUSLY" went out before the drive. There must have been something wrong, because when I had my N/A it was a fun car. It is no FD or TII, but still alot of fun. |
Originally Posted by rowtareh' post='774296' date='Oct 31 2005, 04:30 PM
Prove it to me. I know somebody that had a 75 shot on his 88 N/A. The engine had 121k on the motor with compression at 90psi front rotor, and 60psi rear rotor. Again, not a good idea. I do agree with the lightness of the car, and the fact you can make it lighter. Still, 200whp on a N/A would be a nice thing to have. Just take a glance in the Dyno Charts section and you will find ported N/As with only an exhaust and an AFC making almost 200whp. You really think that injecting nitrous oxide and fuel you cant be in that area, if not a little more? |
The guy wanted 2295 for it.
He was out of his mind. |
Originally Posted by bushy' post='774447' date='Nov 1 2005, 03:21 AM
The guy wanted 2295 for it. He was out of his mind. Yes he was, if you look around you can find a running, half-way decent TII for that. I almost bought one while I was home with brand-new motor+tranny, and paint for $2900 |
Originally Posted by RONIN FC' post='774411' date='Nov 1 2005, 12:05 AM
Im runnin about a 60 shot, my motor has about 170-180k and still running fine. Ive got a running S5 block on standby, but remarkably the stocker is still holding in there. So that throws the whole "NOS is not a good idea on a rotary" theory out the door. Its just like anything else, tuning is key. And I dont go through a 10lb bottle in a day like some folks. Just take a glance in the Dyno Charts section and you will find ported N/As with only an exhaust and an AFC making almost 200whp. You really think that injecting nitrous oxide and fuel you cant be in that area, if not a little more? Then you have proved me wrong my friend. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png And 2295 is quite expensive just for an N/A. Only thing that catches that type of price is an S5, or a really clean FB. |
Originally Posted by rowtareh' post='774487' date='Nov 1 2005, 11:11 AM
Then you have proved me wrong my friend. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png And 2295 is quite expensive just for an N/A. Only thing that catches that type of price is an S5, or a really clean FB. I bought my N/A for 2,750. A little high but fairly clean and had like 110000 miles. Thats when i was first getting into rx-7. Now i would have just gotten a TII but o well. |
Originally Posted by NoeVuh' post='774533' date='Nov 1 2005, 11:38 AM
I bought my N/A for 2,750. A little high but fairly clean and had like 110000 miles. Thats when i was first getting into rx-7. Now i would have just gotten a TII but o well. I got mine for 1k, It needed minor work but its great. If i drop a TII in to my s4 and keep the s4 N/A tranny will it break the tranny? Is a TII tranny a must have? Im already getting a 88 GTU rearend put on so i can have LSD. I also heard of using a Ford F150 tranny would be ok too? |
o yeah, forgot to mention it was an S5
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Never heard about the ford f-150 trans fitting. And it seems that everybody that does the NA-TII swap is using the TII trans.
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