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mail-man 07-22-2005 02:38 AM

hay guys im new to the fourms and new to rotary's 2 hahah and the problem im having is that i realy dont know how to wire the starter ok there is 2 blots and like a wire that comes off the starter and then theres like a thing were u up this black wire form the harness on the starter then there a grounding cable i guess were do i put that cuz we i go to crack the car it doesnt make a sound or try to turn over plzz help

jgarza77 07-22-2005 10:28 AM

[quote name='mail-man' date='Jul 22 2005, 12:38 AM']hay guys im new to the fourms and new to rotary's 2 hahah and the problem im having is that i realy dont know how to wire the starter ok there is 2 blots and like a wire that comes off the starter and then theres like a thing were u up this black wire form the harness on the starter then there a grounding cable i guess were do i put that cuz we i go to crack the car it doesnt make a sound or try to turn over plzz help

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+ from battery to the solenoid of the starter

- goes from battery to chassis to the longer of the 2bolts of the starter

then the 3rd small ~10gauge female connector wire to the male connector on the solenoid



If this doesnt work, have someone turn the key while using a fuse tester to make sure you have the right wire from the harness to starter. Otherwise have your battery and starter tested at a local parts store (usually free) and check all your fuses.



Post results.

mail-man 07-22-2005 11:27 AM

thanks man i ll go try that now

mail-man 07-22-2005 12:17 PM

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ok i went to see what i did and wut i have done so far is that i hooked up the long yellow and black wire to the screw on the left and the black wire to the one on the right then put the female on the male i have pics here



ok so this is a pictuere of how i got it on right now green i dont have hooked up and yellow i have hooked to the + and black i got hooked up to - and the blue is the female and the male thing

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and this is the battery yellow is the lift scew on the starter or yellow circle on the top pic and black is hooked up to the right scew on the starter or the black circle

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thanks for the help

jgarza77 07-22-2005 01:23 PM

look at the pic of the starter you posted and only the yellow and blue circles go to the starter, disregard the black circle, put the black circle back how it was (should look like copper ground strap bolted to the solenoid and into the starter), attach the blue circle wire which should be negative from battery to the long bolt holding your starter to the tranny( should be about 6-8 inch bolt with a 14mm head, yellow cirlce is correct if that wire comes from the + side of battery.......blue circle looks correct also......

mail-man 07-22-2005 01:30 PM

ok so ur tilling me to leave the green alone and take off the black wire and blot it to the long starter blot right

jgarza77 07-22-2005 01:35 PM

[quote name='mail-man' date='Jul 22 2005, 11:30 AM']ok so ur tilling me to leave the green alone and take off the black wire and blot it to the long starter blot right

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ohhh Im sorry, the the green circle wire is the one to the long bolt and the blue and yellow circle are fine...... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

jgarza77 07-22-2005 01:43 PM

- from battery to the long bolt holding starter to tranny

+ from battery to the starter solenoid(your yellow circle in pic)

the female/male connector is fine

the black circle in your pic, put nut back on it and dont hook nothing up to it that wasnt already there.............

make better sense???

mail-man 07-22-2005 01:54 PM

ok but my - cable is not fiting into the starter blot the blot is to fat im so damn lost ahhhhh

jgarza77 07-22-2005 02:01 PM

where are you located??

mail-man 07-22-2005 02:01 PM

west palm beach FL all mi missing is the green circle and the black one

jgarza77 07-22-2005 02:12 PM

[quote name='mail-man' date='Jul 22 2005, 12:01 PM']west palm beach FL all mi missing is the green circle and the black one

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try hooking the black circle wire (the - from battery to the bolt above the long bolt, below oil filter)

try this link from a previous post on here, pics may be helpfullink

jgarza77 07-22-2005 02:13 PM

scroll to almost the bottom of the page to see a pic with a red box, that would be your black circle wire in your pic.

mail-man 07-22-2005 02:33 PM

ok all the blots are to fat to fit the - wire in that i want to know is what does that have to connect to jsut any blot or wut?

jgarza77 07-22-2005 02:53 PM

basically needs to be bolted to the engine block, and closest to the starter possible, anyway you can make the whole on that end bigger? have you made sure you are not using the + wire, cuz that one is a smaller diameter hole than the ground?

mail-man 07-22-2005 03:37 PM

ok i guess i was using the wrong one ok so now the big one is bloted up to the starter and trany blot (the long one) and the othe one is hooked up to the left blot on the starter and it doesnt want to try and trun over like i try to crank it but it doesnt even try to make a sound are u sure i dont have to hook up the green circle wire any were

jgarza77 07-22-2005 04:10 PM

alright work with me here...........Im about to ask or say some dumb stuff but if you follow along step by step you should be able to start up your ride. check it out.



If your battery is out of the car as shown in pic, and you are trying to crank car with a battery charger alone, the clamps from the charger straight to the wires on the car will not work.



Is your other accessories working, such as lights, horn, wipers, radio etc.......???

Make sure battery is fully charged and place it in engine bay on your battery tray. ( usual spot it should be)

Now grab one of your battery cable ends and physically follow it down to the other end. If the wire stops at a bolt to the frame or strut housing of the car and then proceeds, this would be your ground wire that needs to be bolted to your block (green circle in your pic) Keep in mind that when I say battery cable Im talking about the thick black cables with battery terminals on.

Majority of the time the + cable has a thick cable and a thin cable also, but we wont get into that.



Back to basics...........(except for most Fords)

You will have the negative wire from your battery to the frame, and then engine block and then your positive wire straight to your starter. The male/female connector on the solenoid is the wire that sends the signal from your ignition switch to engage the starter. The bolt on the left on the solenoid should have constant current from the battery, the one on the right is the one that sends current to the internals of the starter if/and only if the male/female connector gets current fromt the ignition switch. The solenoid works more or less like a bigger version of a relay switch.

jgarza77 07-22-2005 04:24 PM

Try this:

blue arrow =male/female connector

red arrow= + (positive/hot wire) from battery

black arrow= you leave alone, put nut back on it if it has been removed

greenish arrow= ground wire ( - from battery )

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mail-man 07-22-2005 06:07 PM

yea i got it like that now and then it tryed starting but then my battery started to die so i switched it out with a new one and now the damn thing doesnt want to anyhting

mail-man 07-22-2005 11:32 PM

i got it running thanks for all ur help man https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

jgarza77 07-23-2005 12:53 PM

[quote name='mail-man' date='Jul 22 2005, 09:32 PM']i got it running thanks for all ur help man https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

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Good to hear, you were starting to worry me there for a sec.


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