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X-Pace 09-09-2007 08:05 PM

Hi friends , I have a FC you know. And I have a problem my turbo conversion on my FC. It was a N/A turbo FC , so I add a turbo on it. But still I have a N326 ECU , it is an atmospheric ECU. I need a turbo ECU basemap for mine. If anyone has a basemap for turbo please send me a basemap... By the way most of you know I am living in Turkey and there is nothing about RX7 in my country :( But although I struggle to do one's best for my FC... Please help me!!! Thanks all of you...



My FC running @0.5bar , T4 turbo , Intercooler (FMC) size 55cm x 16cm x 8cm , 2x2" egshaust system , N326 ECU etc... If need any necessary information I can write. I need a basemap which be able to run my engine for 1bar turbo boost. And I will keep on to improve my FC after this problem!



Yours respectfully Bora

j9fd3s 09-10-2007 10:59 AM

you just need to change the ecu... theres no map, its too old to flash it.



you have a couple of options....



1. find a factory turbo ecu n318/n319/n332/n333 and a couple of sensors

2. buy an aftermarket ecu, like haltech, wolf, motec



in case 2, you really dont need a base map, you need the tools to tune it correctly, egt, wideband o2

1Revvin7 09-10-2007 11:01 AM

T4 turbo on a stock turbo ecu will blow the engine, even at .5 bar.

One320B 09-10-2007 11:52 AM

Go w/ J9's option #2 - it'll save your car's life!

X-Pace 09-10-2007 09:53 PM

Thanks friends , I have wide band , O2 sensor , heat hazard sensor but I haven't have got a egt yet. but I'll buy it as soon as possible... now the afr is static @ 13.8



should I buy which turbo? please help me about these set up.... I will buy a stand alone also https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif



some videos about my car run



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRNU-5f5J_U



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuA_7kPaJCM

One320B 09-11-2007 02:58 PM

Static 13.8? I don't understand - it should move as you accelerate through the RPM.... 13.8 is pretty lean too, I like 12.5 personally... or in that area.

X-Pace 09-11-2007 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by One320B' post='882471' date='Sep 11 2007, 11:58 AM
Static 13.8? I don't understand - it should move as you accelerate through the RPM.... 13.8 is pretty lean too, I like 12.5 personally... or in that area.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.gif because of that I need a basemap for standalone... so which turbo is fit for my FC? please inform me , I'm trying to improve my RX7 by myself and I haven't anyone to help me in Turkey...

ill_booger 09-13-2007 01:05 AM

wow that exhaust sounds good and your turbo sounds like a jet https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif

X-Pace 09-13-2007 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by ill_booger' post='882592' date='Sep 12 2007, 10:05 PM
wow that exhaust sounds good and your turbo sounds like a jet https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif



thanks for your comments https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif I am trying to improve it but now I have a ECU problem. FC can be more fast but I need a basemap , if I find a basemap I'll change the chip on the ECU but I haven't found it yet :(



A pic of my engine



http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5307/rx7aj3.th.jpg

One320B 09-13-2007 02:04 PM

That intercooler plumbing needs to go too - it looks like silicon piping, which if it is - means it won't hold pressure as well as aluminum or steel and seems to have a lot of bends in it!



The only suggestion I have if you a set on "loading a basemap" onto you N326 ECU is to maybe contact RTEK and get a chip for the ECU that will allow you to adjust fuel and timing curves. It's not a standalone, but it may help solve your problem!



What exactly is the car doing that makes you want to tune the ECU? With 13.8 AFR - you may just need to get better injectors and larger fuel pump.. the NA engines are high CR too, which makes timing even more important.

X-Pace 09-13-2007 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by One320B' post='882629' date='Sep 13 2007, 11:04 AM
That intercooler plumbing needs to go too - it looks like silicon piping, which if it is - means it won't hold pressure as well as aluminum or steel and seems to have a lot of bends in it!



The only suggestion I have if you a set on "loading a basemap" onto you N326 ECU is to maybe contact RTEK and get a chip for the ECU that will allow you to adjust fuel and timing curves. It's not a standalone, but it may help solve your problem!



What exactly is the car doing that makes you want to tune the ECU? With 13.8 AFR - you may just need to get better injectors and larger fuel pump.. the NA engines are high CR too, which makes timing even more important.



Thanks your edvices... These pipings are carbon fiber https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR I haven't got a change for intercooler and if I change the intercooler I must change the front bumper :( and I have to some wait for this action... I have 5bar fuel pump but stock injektors :( but I will buy 680cc enjectors and new turbo... What your suggestion about turbo?

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 09-13-2007 07:11 PM

Turbo n/a's are fun but dont last to long without proper tuning. I should know i ran a s4 na for 2 days it was tearing up the street dhen blew in a first gear pull becuase i was using a N/A fuel pump with TII injectors and a stand alone go figure BAD TUNNING AND NO FUEL MODS. your best bet is to go standalone .

X-Pace 09-13-2007 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ' post='882670' date='Sep 13 2007, 04:11 PM
Turbo n/a's are fun but dont last to long without proper tuning. I should know i ran a s4 na for 2 days it was tearing up the street dhen blew in a first gear pull becuase i was using a N/A fuel pump with TII injectors and a stand alone go figure BAD TUNNING AND NO FUEL MODS. your best bet is to go standalone .



Thanks your information. I wanna buy a stand alone , and I'll buy it. I have a fuel pressure regulator and I adjusted it @ 40psi. So it running with no problem for the present. My problem begins after I buy the standalone. I need a basemap to appyl my standalone I buy. If anyone has a basemap which I can use for my FC , please send me for right tune. I haven't got enough information about real time tuning so I wanna benefit from a member on here. Thanks for your understanding...

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 09-13-2007 08:18 PM

Microtech ECU's already come with a base map pre installed for our particular engine types. It is designed to be able to hook up and turn the car on you could probably drive the car out of boost and start tuning roughly on the street but the best option is to get it dyno tuned. and a wide band is a definate must. I tried to tune my N/A turbo with a narrow band A/F gauge it went bye bye very fast.

Leetheslacker 09-14-2007 02:53 AM

im surprised it hasnt blown up yet at 13.8 AFR. That is way too lean for turbo.



i would avoid boosting it untill you get some way to control more fuel into it.

X-Pace 09-14-2007 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ' post='882674' date='Sep 13 2007, 05:18 PM
Microtech ECU's already come with a base map pre installed for our particular engine types. It is designed to be able to hook up and turn the car on you could probably drive the car out of boost and start tuning roughly on the street but the best option is to get it dyno tuned. and a wide band is a definate must. I tried to tune my N/A turbo with a narrow band A/F gauge it went bye bye very fast.

Thanks your useful informations... I will buy a standalone Microtec ECU and I think it solve the problem...

X-Pace 09-14-2007 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' post='882689' date='Sep 13 2007, 11:53 PM
im surprised it hasnt blown up yet at 13.8 AFR. That is way too lean for turbo.



i would avoid boosting it untill you get some way to control more fuel into it.



Thanks your waring , I am learning , I wanna best setup for my FC. I have using my FC more than 10.000miles with new engine with this setup but I have no problem https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR compression still 9.7bar https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.gif and I don't know how many horsepower with stock N/A ECU but on the video which I put on the page , Megane RS II Turbo chiped , full egshaust system , air intake kit and dyno run is 237whp but I pass him as you see. I hope my FC runs good much more than... sure with your help https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif By the way my FC the one FC in Turkey. And I am trying to teach a lasson Subarus , Hondas and etc... because most of people who living in Turkey don't know about RX7 and Rotary , and they always say " weak car , problem car , not strong" but I'll show them notthing seems as it so!!! I love RX7 and trying to improve it still by my self... I hope understand me friends.

zRotary 09-14-2007 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by X-Pace' post='882702' date='Sep 14 2007, 03:40 PM
Thanks your waring , I am learning , I wanna best setup for my FC. I have using my FC more than 10.000miles with new engine with this setup but I have no problem https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif compression still 9.7bar https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.gif and I don't know how many horsepower with stock N/A ECU but on the video which I put on the page , Megane RS II Turbo chiped , full egshaust system , air intake kit and dyno run is 237whp but I pass him as you see. I hope my FC runs good much more than... sure with your help https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif By the way my FC the one FC in Turkey. And I am trying to teach a lasson Subarus , Hondas and etc... because most of people who living in Turkey don't know about RX7 and Rotary , and they always say " weak car , problem car , not strong" but I'll show them notthing seems as it so!!! I love RX7 and trying to improve it still by my self... I hope understand me friends.



Salamaleykum,



i have a friend in Ohio who is turkish, and he knows much stuff about proper tuning. he is using a microtech standalone also! i am going to ask him if he could help you out with tuning your car, i am sure he will.



Its great to hear you want ti improve the status of a rotary-engine in turkey, its not that bad in germany, but there are prejudices also, so we want to teach them a lesson also.



AFR 13,8 is way too much.. and as your base is a N/A (by the way is it a S4 or S5 engine?) you have Rotors with more compression, which means to be very risky at boost, because they tend to knock much earlier than lets say 8,5:1 rotors from a S4 TII.



My Car feels great at 11,2-11,4 @ 8psi of boost and its safe also.



are you selling your turbo? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.gif

X-Pace 09-14-2007 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by zRotary' post='882713' date='Sep 14 2007, 08:53 AM
Salamaleykum,



i have a friend in Ohio who is turkish, and he knows much stuff about proper tuning. he is using a microtech standalone also! i am going to ask him if he could help you out with tuning your car, i am sure he will.



Its great to hear you want ti improve the status of a rotary-engine in turkey, its not that bad in germany, but there are prejudices also, so we want to teach them a lesson also.



AFR 13,8 is way too much.. and as your base is a N/A (by the way is it a S4 or S5 engine?) you have Rotors with more compression, which means to be very risky at boost, because they tend to knock much earlier than lets say 8,5:1 rotors from a S4 TII.



My Car feels great at 11,2-11,4 @ 8psi of boost and its safe also.



are you selling your turbo? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.gif



ve Aleykümselam https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif



Thanks your interest my friend https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif I have a S5 engine which is made by Kiwi-re and is a blue short block. I bring it from U.S.A and I love rotary , I blew my old engine 2years ago... though I never mind to give up it!!! So I wanna drive my FC as good as possible. About this I am trying to learn some things right about rotary tune from you. I am glad you share your experience with me. Please inform me about your Turkish friend , my MSN address: thedreamneverends@hotmail.com Thanks everything...

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 09-14-2007 11:51 PM

nice to see you showing thoue turkeys whats up with your RX-7 GOOD JOB ! ! !

Microtech is sweet easy to tune nice features

where did you get carbon fiber intercooler pipes?

X-Pace 09-15-2007 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ' post='882749' date='Sep 14 2007, 08:51 PM
nice to see you showing thoue turkeys whats up with your RX-7 GOOD JOB ! ! !

Microtech is sweet easy to tune nice features

where did you get carbon fiber intercooler pipes?



Thanks https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif Yes I'll buy a Microtec as soon as possible... and keep on improve my RX7 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.gif I made carbon fiber intercooler pipes at my home by myself https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif and hood , spoiler too..., so no heat on them , much more cold air intake.


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