S4 Or S5
09-25-2003, 08:54 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by MazdaEnthused' date='Sep 26 2003, 08:53 AM
[quote name='Robbomaz' date='Sep 25 2003, 03:24 PM'] S4 with S5 motor & box!
I agree with most things here (especially those farking balljoints!)
We have the normal belts here on all models, and never bother playing with factory ECU's
But don't forget S5 engine has higher compression, lighter flywheel and rotors, better exhaust manifold & split pulse turbo with much larger wastegate area. None of this really matters if you are upgrading tho
You boys S4 have noticed the resonance that goes thru the gearbox @3500 in 4th at full throttle? S5 gearbox has a harmonic balancer on the output shaft to eliminate that. We use S5 boxes with steel flywheels that take S4 clutches, cos the range of performance clutches in the smaller size is far greater!
I agree with most things here (especially those farking balljoints!)
We have the normal belts here on all models, and never bother playing with factory ECU's
But don't forget S5 engine has higher compression, lighter flywheel and rotors, better exhaust manifold & split pulse turbo with much larger wastegate area. None of this really matters if you are upgrading tho
You boys S4 have noticed the resonance that goes thru the gearbox @3500 in 4th at full throttle? S5 gearbox has a harmonic balancer on the output shaft to eliminate that. We use S5 boxes with steel flywheels that take S4 clutches, cos the range of performance clutches in the smaller size is far greater!
Sorry! Get a bit carried away sometimes. Hi-comp rotors give better off-boost drivability but total boost is limited to 12-13PSI.
I get dead pissed with the prices you guys pay for FC/D's over there! A nasty non-running Turbo 2 would still be $5K here.
09-25-2003, 09:17 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Sep 25 2003, 05:30 PM
only S5 part on my car is the ebrake handle
I always said Im keeping my car S4, because everyone else converts to S5
the lights dont look bad on a black car, I likes them
I always said Im keeping my car S4, because everyone else converts to S5
the lights dont look bad on a black car, I likes them
mike
09-25-2003, 09:20 PM
#24
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I'll have to stick up for the S5
I agree with Mike...the seatbelts suuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
The moldings/nose/side skirts/tails/rims/interior on the S5s IMO really make it a better car visually and comfort wise...Performance wise in stock for I also feel the S5 has the edge
All depends on what you want to use it for...if I had to choose between a stock 91 T2 and a stock 87 T2 that I was keeping stock or lightly modded...there is no way I'd take the 87. But thats just me...I'm not into heavily modifying the cars. If you will be transforming the car, the S4 might be a better starting platform.
Good luck with the choice
I agree with Mike...the seatbelts suuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
The moldings/nose/side skirts/tails/rims/interior on the S5s IMO really make it a better car visually and comfort wise...Performance wise in stock for I also feel the S5 has the edge
All depends on what you want to use it for...if I had to choose between a stock 91 T2 and a stock 87 T2 that I was keeping stock or lightly modded...there is no way I'd take the 87. But thats just me...I'm not into heavily modifying the cars. If you will be transforming the car, the S4 might be a better starting platform.
Good luck with the choice
09-26-2003, 01:49 PM
#30
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And how about those non-replaceable ball-joints on the S5's!!!!
WHAT? how in the hell do you fix them if they break?