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Robbomaz 09-25-2003 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaEnthused' date='Sep 26 2003, 08:53 AM
[quote name='Robbomaz' date='Sep 25 2003, 03:24 PM'] S4 with S5 motor & box!



I agree with most things here (especially those farking balljoints!)

We have the normal belts here on all models, and never bother playing with factory ECU's

But don't forget S5 engine has higher compression, lighter flywheel and rotors, better exhaust manifold & split pulse turbo with much larger wastegate area. None of this really matters if you are upgrading tho https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

You boys S4 have noticed the resonance that goes thru the gearbox @3500 in 4th at full throttle? S5 gearbox has a harmonic balancer on the output shaft to eliminate that. We use S5 boxes with steel flywheels that take S4 clutches, cos the range of performance clutches in the smaller size is far greater!

lol if that made some sense in any of the 3 times i tried to read that it woulda helped... and i was told that the higher compression rotors weren't any better for somthing [/quote]

Sorry! Get a bit carried away sometimes. Hi-comp rotors give better off-boost drivability but total boost is limited to 12-13PSI.



I get dead pissed with the prices you guys pay for FC/D's over there! A nasty non-running Turbo 2 would still be $5K here.

Rob x-7 09-25-2003 08:59 PM

robbomaz-put a location in your profile, so we know where "here" is https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

j9fd3s 09-25-2003 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Sep 25 2003, 05:30 PM
only S5 part on my car is the ebrake handle



I always said Im keeping my car S4, because everyone else converts to S5



the lights dont look bad on a black car, I likes them

yah i put the s4 tails back on my car, now its all s4 on the outside



mike

Erik 09-25-2003 09:20 PM

I'll have to stick up for the S5 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



I agree with Mike...the seatbelts suuuuuuuuuuuuuck!



The moldings/nose/side skirts/tails/rims/interior on the S5s IMO really make it a better car visually and comfort wise...Performance wise in stock for I also feel the S5 has the edge



All depends on what you want to use it for...if I had to choose between a stock 91 T2 and a stock 87 T2 that I was keeping stock or lightly modded...there is no way I'd take the 87. But thats just me...I'm not into heavily modifying the cars. If you will be transforming the car, the S4 might be a better starting platform.



Good luck with the choice https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Robbomaz 09-25-2003 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Sep 26 2003, 09:59 AM
robbomaz-put a location in your profile, so we know where "here" is https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

It is! Isn't it? Is it not showing up?

DJ Blu 09-26-2003 12:57 AM

s4 forever

MazdaEnthused 09-26-2003 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Robbomaz' date='Sep 25 2003, 06:28 PM
It is! Isn't it? Is it not showing up?

O man you are def. in austrailia can you hook me up with an RX-3

UniqueTII 09-26-2003 01:33 PM

S4, no doubt. I'm surprised that this threat hasn't been taken over by S5 people, though.

MazdaEnthused 09-26-2003 01:40 PM

yes i def. love my s4 as well

Red Suns 09-26-2003 01:49 PM


And how about those non-replaceable ball-joints on the S5's!!!!


WHAT? how in the hell do you fix them if they break? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/violin.gif are they just not very accesiable or something? That sucks.... i guess im getting a series 4 and making the conversion now that modding a S5 as posted earlier one especially with the computer is it? is really hard.... geeez... and i like the S5 too.


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