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BenJaman 02-05-2007 03:52 AM

Hey guys.



I have an FC tII. Im wondering whats the deal with the rev limiter on these things? I have a feeling that i may not have one as the dash tacho revs to 8k and my turbo timer has recorded my revs as having gone to 8120. Yes its configured correctly. I also saw the needle wind past 8k on the dash.



Has the limiter been taken out? how do i get it put back on? and where should it normally activate?(so i know when to stop revving)



anyone got any answers for me?



thanks guys

Leetheslacker 02-05-2007 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by BenJaman' post='857430' date='Feb 5 2007, 04:52 AM

Hey guys.



I have an FC tII. Im wondering whats the deal with the rev limiter on these things? I have a feeling that i may not have one as the dash tacho revs to 8k and my turbo timer has recorded my revs as having gone to 8120. Yes its configured correctly. I also saw the needle wind past 8k on the dash.



Has the limiter been taken out? how do i get it put back on? and where should it normally activate?(so i know when to stop revving)



anyone got any answers for me?



thanks guys



there should be a fuel cut limiter around 8k, maybe its different if you have a s5.



ive accidentally hit it around 8k on my NA, but on a turbo i would avoid it so you dont hit it, cut fuel, go lean, and blow up.



just shift when it beeps at you, like everyone else does.

jwteknix 02-05-2007 10:11 AM

fuel cut is only boost dependent not rpm based and it on all tII

sen2two 02-05-2007 11:41 AM

get a fuel cut defender to be safe. this will let you rev higher wthout the fuel cut.also it will let you turn the boost up.



but try not to shift past the redline. its pointless unless your motor is built for the higher powerband.



and no, theres no rev limiter. only the fuel cut. NA's have this as well.

fc3sboy1 02-05-2007 12:47 PM

s4s have a revlimiter s5s do not. i thought all did not have a limiter but i found out the hard way that only s4s have a limiter. by the way the stock tachs are way off. i saw about 1000 rpm differance at the top end to a autometer tach. the problem is the stock tach is flippin slow as comparison to the actual engine rpm. an aftermarket tach will read 8k with the stock tach reading around 7k on a WOT pull, and i noticed this on all s4 and s5s that i have worked on.

Leetheslacker 02-05-2007 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by fc3sboy1' post='857522' date='Feb 5 2007, 01:47 PM

s4s have a revlimiter s5s do not. i thought all did not have a limiter but i found out the hard way that only s4s have a limiter. by the way the stock tachs are way off. i saw about 1000 rpm differance at the top end to a autometer tach. the problem is the stock tach is flippin slow as comparison to the actual engine rpm. an aftermarket tach will read 8k with the stock tach reading around 7k on a WOT pull, and i noticed this on all s4 and s5s that i have worked on.





theres a big difference between stock and my safc too. up to 500+ depending on what rpm im at. Its even worse now that i wired a s5 cluster into my car. And there is a rev limiter on s4's. like i said i've hit it before on the track, spun and held it into a burnout, then my diff unlocked into a one wheel peel and it bounced off the limiter before i could catch it. but it cuts fuel, not spark like most rev limiters.

jwteknix 02-05-2007 02:03 PM

my s4 tII doesnt have a rev limiter only fuel cut from boosting to high witch was eliminated by my rtek

Leetheslacker 02-05-2007 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by jwteknix' post='857535' date='Feb 5 2007, 03:03 PM

my s4 tII doesnt have a rev limiter only fuel cut from boosting to high witch was eliminated by my rtek



have you ever even tried to rev past 8?

jwteknix 02-05-2007 05:23 PM

yes on my stock motor i had mishifted and the was no rev limiter trust me have you?

BenJaman 02-05-2007 11:32 PM

thanks guys.

Im pretty sure the reading i got from my HKS timer is correct. if it is i didnt hit fuel cut at 8120. and my boost gauge was reading 0.5bar. its apexi so also pretty accurate. But im sure my car is a s4 as its the heavy bonnet, though it has the s5 tail lights.

If i have the s4 then shouldnt my fuel cut activate at 6.5psi (1psi over 5.5)?? Coz i calculate 0.5ar to be over 7psi...

any thoughts?



thanks alot again guys.

micaheli 02-06-2007 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by sen2two' post='857510' date='Feb 5 2007, 09:41 AM
and no, theres no rev limiter. only the fuel cut. NA's have this as well.



If NA's have this as well, then it IS a rev limiter. It limits your rev's by cutting your fuel. It can't be based on boost if it applies to NA's as well. If this were the case, I could throw a FCD on my NA and rev to 10k (Not that I have a reason or want/need to do it).



Does the fuel cut defender detect RPM, Boost, both? I'd like to know how it works...

jwteknix 02-06-2007 10:34 AM

the fcd lies to the computer its a resister and lowers the amount of boost going in to the computer and shows it less boost then there really is, also a real rev limiter takes away ignition not fuel when taking fuel away it is bad for the engine and also on a turbo i have found out that it is both boost and rpm depndent on an n/a it is just rpm. and no a fcd can not be used on an na i havent exprienced these conditions b/c my rtek eliminates them

jwteknix 02-06-2007 10:34 AM

wtf dp

89rx7gtu 02-09-2007 03:08 AM

well, i wanted to try this out when i first bought my rx N/A so i did! my redline is at 8k and tach stops at 9k....... i hit 9k and didn't get any fuel cut or ignition cut! i figured that i just don't have a fuel cut or a rev limiter! hell, i don't know for sure! i have done it acouple more times since then and still no cutting issue! of course i don't make it a habit, but i do make it a habit to it redline when i am racing someone! i raced a friend the other morning from a dead stop and smoked him! he has a 87! even with the way my motor is starting and running i kicked the rear end sideways when i hit 2nd! it was crazy! i have pushed it a few times on start up because that is what i do, but i have never had it go sideways that bad! this is one of the reasons i want to keep this motor, build it then put a turbo on it when done! i am told that i can get 500+ rwhp out of it with a good size turbo!


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