Quick Question About Aftermarket Bov
#14
To recirculate an aftermarket Blow off valve, you just need to get the appropriate sized piping to go from the outlet of the BOV to the original location on the stock intake. You may need a reducer depending on the size of the outlet on the bov. Make sure you clamp them down well though. The momentary spike in fuel isn't that bad. If you have an aftermarket exhaust you may even be able to blow flames with it. It comes from the fact that the MAF has already calculated the air that should go into the combustion chamber, but when the BOV vents some of this metered air escapes into the atmosphere which the MAF cannot detect, thus there is less air in the combustion process than what the ecu measured, giving you a rich environment.
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#15
Originally Posted by G2G' date='Mar 1 2005, 07:06 PM
To recirculate an aftermarket Blow off valve, you just need to get the appropriate sized piping to go from the outlet of the BOV to the original location on the stock intake. You may need a reducer depending on the size of the outlet on the bov. Make sure you clamp them down well though. The momentary spike in fuel isn't that bad. If you have an aftermarket exhaust you may even be able to blow flames with it. It comes from the fact that the MAF has already calculated the air that should go into the combustion chamber, but when the BOV vents some of this metered air escapes into the atmosphere which the MAF cannot detect, thus there is less air in the combustion process than what the ecu measured, giving you a rich environment.
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we thought it was an accounting problem, but its really a shipping problem
#16
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Mar 1 2005, 10:21 PM
MIKE!!! For the last time, PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#17
Originally Posted by G2G' date='Mar 1 2005, 08:12 PM
lol, dude ive been playing with these things too long, crack pipe= normal
#18
Originally Posted by Dramon_Killer' date='Mar 1 2005, 04:31 PM
kragen, carzone, pepboys, a muffler shop.
the stock BOV is good for approx~ 10 psi. on the STOCK turbo. Heres a basic write-up:
DIY Open-Air Vented Blow-Off Valve
I've got a VERY loud pressure surge release valve function. It makes some
hellacious blow-off noise and is open-air vented. The system works well and,
due to the nature of the additional valve, it does not create a vacuum leak you'd
have by open-air venting the BOV by itself.
Here's a brief explanation of what I've done:
I re-plumbed the blow-off valve, basically. I disconnected the return hose
from the blow-off valve to the turbo inlet duct on the output side of the MAF
(s-curve shaped 3" black hose coming off the mass airflow meter/air filter). I
plugged the turbo inlet duct w/ a 1/2" plug to seal the now new leak.
I turned the blow-off valve hose 180 degrees back
(facing the firewall instead of the turbo inlet duct now) and
plumbed a 3/4" swing-valve at the end of it, after everything was said
and done. (I also replaced two factory spring clamps w/ screw clamps) --
This swing-valve acts as a one-way pop-off valve and works under pressure.
Under vacuum, the valve seals shut, eliminating the possibility of a vacuum leak.
Here's the parts I used:
3/4" Swing-valve tee (or other one-way plumbing valve w/ or w/o tension control)
3/4" to 1/2" galvanized bushing (used to reduce thread-size)
1/2" Close (short) threadded nipple
Four screw clamps, to 1/4" smallest diameter
1/2" threadded Plug (steel/galvanized or what have you)
1/2" width hose (about 6 to 8 inches long/Get it anywhere! Steal some!)
-- I used a spare ACV hose off of an '88 NA stock airbox, by the way.
-- It's a big-dipper shaped hose and worked perfectly.
A few zip ties to keep the setup sturdy once it's all built
All of these parts can be found at any good hardware store, like Home Depot,
for about $10 total. The valve I bought was $5.99 and was the kicker of the bunch.
The steps to take with the car preferrably cold (near alot of hot parts):
1. On the back of the turbo inlet duct, the blow-off valve is routed in. From
there, remove the existing squeeze clamp and detach the BOV hose. Removed the
BOV entirely and replace the existing squeeze clamp on the intake manifold side
with a screw clamp (much cleaner). Turn the BOV return hose (from the side of
the turbo output) 180 degrees backwards. If I remember correctly, I had to
flip the BOV upside down then turn the hose all the way around so it'd be level.
2. Use the 1/2" plug and plug the back end of the turbo inlet duct that now
has a gaping hole in it. First things first. Use one of the new screw clamps
on the plug and make sure it's good and tight. Be sure not to put the plug too far
into the inlet duct. Screw clamp it to the threadded portion of the plug.
3. Threadd the 3/4" to 1/2" bushing on the inlet-side of the new swing-valve
and then thread the 1/2" nipple into the end of the bushing. This should leave you w/
about a full inch of space to screw clamp the end of the hose on. Make sure you get
the valve on right (where the valve is swinging outward and not inward). This is VERY
important and could be detrimental to the life of your turbo.
(3/4" swing valve attached to and threadded to 1/2" bushing, threadded to 1/2" close
nipple, which is attached and clamped to one end of the 1/2" hose)
4. Attach the other end of the hose to the newly-turned blow-off valve. The stock
BOV has about 3/4" to a full inch of room the other end of the hose could be clamped on.
Use a new screw clamp for this one and make sure it's tight.
5. Depending on hose length and valve size, route this new setup back and around
the upper intake manifold area (above and behind the ACV/EGR area) and zip tie it to
some of the metal hoses in the area. I put the valve here for maximum audibility
and clarity. Make sure the valve is level/horizontal as possible. I had to
experiment with this a few times on mine and was able to create a small vacuum leak
when I had the output side of the valve facing at a downward angle. You can
experiment angling the valve up a bit, but I wouldn't go too high. The purpose of this
valve is to compliment the existing setup and not hinder it.
As a result, you should have a T2 that sounds much like a steam engine when coming off
mid to heavy throttle. The new setup is open-air venting the air right into the atmosphere
near the cockpit, instead of being re-routed into the turbo inlet duct before the turbo,
while still retaining the same functionality and efficiency of the stock blow-off valve.
If this is setup properly, you should not encounter any 'new' vacuum leaks whatsoever.
The only issue I ran into was a slight change in low-end throttle response, but it's
barely noticeable, even if at all. Under WOT/high boost, depending on the tension of the valve
itself, it may be dead smooth or may flutter some. Mine, with the valve I used, flutters
after about 9psi/boost at WOT. It still sounds good, though.
Brian D. Cain
1988 Red FC3S-GTR
http://homepages.waymark.net/~bcain
#19
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Mar 1 2005, 11:19 PM
#20
Originally Posted by RX7ryder' date='Mar 2 2005, 10:00 AM
kragen, carzone, pepboys, a muffler shop.
the stock BOV is good for approx~ 10 psi. on the STOCK turbo. Heres a basic write-up:
DIY Open-Air Vented Blow-Off Valve
I've got a VERY loud pressure surge release valve function. It makes some
hellacious blow-off noise and is open-air vented. The system works well and,
due to the nature of the additional valve, it does not create a vacuum leak you'd
have by open-air venting the BOV by itself.
Here's a brief explanation of what I've done:
I re-plumbed the blow-off valve, basically. I disconnected the return hose
from the blow-off valve to the turbo inlet duct on the output side of the MAF
(s-curve shaped 3" black hose coming off the mass airflow meter/air filter). I
plugged the turbo inlet duct w/ a 1/2" plug to seal the now new leak.
I turned the blow-off valve hose 180 degrees back
(facing the firewall instead of the turbo inlet duct now) and
plumbed a 3/4" swing-valve at the end of it, after everything was said
and done. (I also replaced two factory spring clamps w/ screw clamps) --
This swing-valve acts as a one-way pop-off valve and works under pressure.
Under vacuum, the valve seals shut, eliminating the possibility of a vacuum leak.
Here's the parts I used:
3/4" Swing-valve tee (or other one-way plumbing valve w/ or w/o tension control)
3/4" to 1/2" galvanized bushing (used to reduce thread-size)
1/2" Close (short) threadded nipple
Four screw clamps, to 1/4" smallest diameter
1/2" threadded Plug (steel/galvanized or what have you)
1/2" width hose (about 6 to 8 inches long/Get it anywhere! Steal some!)
-- I used a spare ACV hose off of an '88 NA stock airbox, by the way.
-- It's a big-dipper shaped hose and worked perfectly.
A few zip ties to keep the setup sturdy once it's all built
All of these parts can be found at any good hardware store, like Home Depot,
for about $10 total. The valve I bought was $5.99 and was the kicker of the bunch.
The steps to take with the car preferrably cold (near alot of hot parts):
1. On the back of the turbo inlet duct, the blow-off valve is routed in. From
there, remove the existing squeeze clamp and detach the BOV hose. Removed the
BOV entirely and replace the existing squeeze clamp on the intake manifold side
with a screw clamp (much cleaner). Turn the BOV return hose (from the side of
the turbo output) 180 degrees backwards. If I remember correctly, I had to
flip the BOV upside down then turn the hose all the way around so it'd be level.
2. Use the 1/2" plug and plug the back end of the turbo inlet duct that now
has a gaping hole in it. First things first. Use one of the new screw clamps
on the plug and make sure it's good and tight. Be sure not to put the plug too far
into the inlet duct. Screw clamp it to the threadded portion of the plug.
3. Threadd the 3/4" to 1/2" bushing on the inlet-side of the new swing-valve
and then thread the 1/2" nipple into the end of the bushing. This should leave you w/
about a full inch of space to screw clamp the end of the hose on. Make sure you get
the valve on right (where the valve is swinging outward and not inward). This is VERY
important and could be detrimental to the life of your turbo.
(3/4" swing valve attached to and threadded to 1/2" bushing, threadded to 1/2" close
nipple, which is attached and clamped to one end of the 1/2" hose)
4. Attach the other end of the hose to the newly-turned blow-off valve. The stock
BOV has about 3/4" to a full inch of room the other end of the hose could be clamped on.
Use a new screw clamp for this one and make sure it's tight.
5. Depending on hose length and valve size, route this new setup back and around
the upper intake manifold area (above and behind the ACV/EGR area) and zip tie it to
some of the metal hoses in the area. I put the valve here for maximum audibility
and clarity. Make sure the valve is level/horizontal as possible. I had to
experiment with this a few times on mine and was able to create a small vacuum leak
when I had the output side of the valve facing at a downward angle. You can
experiment angling the valve up a bit, but I wouldn't go too high. The purpose of this
valve is to compliment the existing setup and not hinder it.
As a result, you should have a T2 that sounds much like a steam engine when coming off
mid to heavy throttle. The new setup is open-air venting the air right into the atmosphere
near the cockpit, instead of being re-routed into the turbo inlet duct before the turbo,
while still retaining the same functionality and efficiency of the stock blow-off valve.
If this is setup properly, you should not encounter any 'new' vacuum leaks whatsoever.
The only issue I ran into was a slight change in low-end throttle response, but it's
barely noticeable, even if at all. Under WOT/high boost, depending on the tension of the valve
itself, it may be dead smooth or may flutter some. Mine, with the valve I used, flutters
after about 9psi/boost at WOT. It still sounds good, though.
Brian D. Cain
1988 Red FC3S-GTR
http://homepages.waymark.net/~bcain
the stock BOV is good for approx~ 10 psi. on the STOCK turbo. Heres a basic write-up:
DIY Open-Air Vented Blow-Off Valve
I've got a VERY loud pressure surge release valve function. It makes some
hellacious blow-off noise and is open-air vented. The system works well and,
due to the nature of the additional valve, it does not create a vacuum leak you'd
have by open-air venting the BOV by itself.
Here's a brief explanation of what I've done:
I re-plumbed the blow-off valve, basically. I disconnected the return hose
from the blow-off valve to the turbo inlet duct on the output side of the MAF
(s-curve shaped 3" black hose coming off the mass airflow meter/air filter). I
plugged the turbo inlet duct w/ a 1/2" plug to seal the now new leak.
I turned the blow-off valve hose 180 degrees back
(facing the firewall instead of the turbo inlet duct now) and
plumbed a 3/4" swing-valve at the end of it, after everything was said
and done. (I also replaced two factory spring clamps w/ screw clamps) --
This swing-valve acts as a one-way pop-off valve and works under pressure.
Under vacuum, the valve seals shut, eliminating the possibility of a vacuum leak.
Here's the parts I used:
3/4" Swing-valve tee (or other one-way plumbing valve w/ or w/o tension control)
3/4" to 1/2" galvanized bushing (used to reduce thread-size)
1/2" Close (short) threadded nipple
Four screw clamps, to 1/4" smallest diameter
1/2" threadded Plug (steel/galvanized or what have you)
1/2" width hose (about 6 to 8 inches long/Get it anywhere! Steal some!)
-- I used a spare ACV hose off of an '88 NA stock airbox, by the way.
-- It's a big-dipper shaped hose and worked perfectly.
A few zip ties to keep the setup sturdy once it's all built
All of these parts can be found at any good hardware store, like Home Depot,
for about $10 total. The valve I bought was $5.99 and was the kicker of the bunch.
The steps to take with the car preferrably cold (near alot of hot parts):
1. On the back of the turbo inlet duct, the blow-off valve is routed in. From
there, remove the existing squeeze clamp and detach the BOV hose. Removed the
BOV entirely and replace the existing squeeze clamp on the intake manifold side
with a screw clamp (much cleaner). Turn the BOV return hose (from the side of
the turbo output) 180 degrees backwards. If I remember correctly, I had to
flip the BOV upside down then turn the hose all the way around so it'd be level.
2. Use the 1/2" plug and plug the back end of the turbo inlet duct that now
has a gaping hole in it. First things first. Use one of the new screw clamps
on the plug and make sure it's good and tight. Be sure not to put the plug too far
into the inlet duct. Screw clamp it to the threadded portion of the plug.
3. Threadd the 3/4" to 1/2" bushing on the inlet-side of the new swing-valve
and then thread the 1/2" nipple into the end of the bushing. This should leave you w/
about a full inch of space to screw clamp the end of the hose on. Make sure you get
the valve on right (where the valve is swinging outward and not inward). This is VERY
important and could be detrimental to the life of your turbo.
(3/4" swing valve attached to and threadded to 1/2" bushing, threadded to 1/2" close
nipple, which is attached and clamped to one end of the 1/2" hose)
4. Attach the other end of the hose to the newly-turned blow-off valve. The stock
BOV has about 3/4" to a full inch of room the other end of the hose could be clamped on.
Use a new screw clamp for this one and make sure it's tight.
5. Depending on hose length and valve size, route this new setup back and around
the upper intake manifold area (above and behind the ACV/EGR area) and zip tie it to
some of the metal hoses in the area. I put the valve here for maximum audibility
and clarity. Make sure the valve is level/horizontal as possible. I had to
experiment with this a few times on mine and was able to create a small vacuum leak
when I had the output side of the valve facing at a downward angle. You can
experiment angling the valve up a bit, but I wouldn't go too high. The purpose of this
valve is to compliment the existing setup and not hinder it.
As a result, you should have a T2 that sounds much like a steam engine when coming off
mid to heavy throttle. The new setup is open-air venting the air right into the atmosphere
near the cockpit, instead of being re-routed into the turbo inlet duct before the turbo,
while still retaining the same functionality and efficiency of the stock blow-off valve.
If this is setup properly, you should not encounter any 'new' vacuum leaks whatsoever.
The only issue I ran into was a slight change in low-end throttle response, but it's
barely noticeable, even if at all. Under WOT/high boost, depending on the tension of the valve
itself, it may be dead smooth or may flutter some. Mine, with the valve I used, flutters
after about 9psi/boost at WOT. It still sounds good, though.
Brian D. Cain
1988 Red FC3S-GTR
http://homepages.waymark.net/~bcain