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g_dripht-alex 02-26-2004 07:03 PM

ok basically i got everything disconnected and the hoist is attached but now im thinking that i should just take the engine out with the transmission becuase the bellhousing bolts are seriously impossibly to get out. anyone have any ideas? im only working with 2 engine stands here and im a tall guy with a badback so i keep the front up high so i can work. should i just take out the engine with the tranny still attached? blah im so tired/discouraged right now.

Midnightdriver 02-26-2004 07:13 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Its a pain but I was able to get the eng. off the tranny.. just small turns. don't do it by yourself unless you have done it before..2 is always better. espacally if your going to take it out w/ x-mission.. Many people like to remove the front end. but you can get it out if you careful. just ensure that all connections and mounts are removed from tranny too.

rmaiersg 02-26-2004 07:32 PM

I got my engine out alone without too many problems. Getting it in was a bitch. Took me like 5 times as long.

pengaru 02-26-2004 07:36 PM

yeah, out is easy.. in can be frustrating sometimes.

ColinRX7 02-26-2004 08:13 PM

Wrench plus breaker bar plus steady torque should break those nuts loose.. Did you try that?

g_dripht-alex 02-26-2004 08:27 PM

i gotta wait till tomorrow to get a breaker bar, but do you guys think i should pull the tranny to? im not sure if i wanna.

ColinRX7 02-26-2004 09:33 PM

I would leave the tranny in myself..



It doesn't need to come out, so don't bother with it. If you ever have to change a clutch disc, then, those bolts should be easy to break free anyways. I'm sure you don't want to pull the motor/tranny to change a clutch right?

g_dripht-alex 02-27-2004 07:18 AM

ill give this another go today, i got discouraged after i just started smashing my fists into everything when the bolts were to tight and the wrench would slip. i think i should have a breaker bar to use as well.

j9fd3s 02-27-2004 11:20 AM

if you have a lift pulling the tranny is easier, but on the ground i dont think it is

Fluid Dynamics 02-27-2004 02:00 PM

Seems strange that you are having trouble getting the bellhousing bolts off. You could soak them in P Blaster or liquid wrench. In the past when I couldn't turn a frozen bolt or nut, soaking the assembly with P Blaster for an hour made it possible to unscrew the parts.



Taking the engine out w/o the tranny is how I did mine, twice. Putting it back in took me longer andI had to develop some skill to do it, but I basically removed the radiator and stood in the engine bay as the engine hung from the hoist. I guided its mounts into their slots in the frame, and stuck the clutch right on the tranny input shaft. With a little foreplay, it all came together and slid right in.

g_dripht-alex 02-27-2004 04:18 PM

crap im probably gonna have to do this either tomorrow night or sunday during the day...i had stupid court today. i think the gas/coolant/oil reacted in the bucket cuase i felt like i was gonna die last night when i came inside after being in the garage for about 4 and a half hours.

89 Rag 02-27-2004 08:13 PM

It's really not that hard to remove/install the engine and trans as a married unit. The radiator should be out as well as the ps/ac bracket and components. Jack the front of the car up, support w/ stands. (you'll need the jack in a minute)

http://89rag.nopistons.com/gallery/a...4104.sized.jpg

http://89rag.nopistons.com/gallery/a...4105.sized.jpg

http://89rag.nopistons.com/gallery/a...4106.sized.jpg



Support the rear of the trans w/ jack, then remove rear trans crossmember from trans and chassis. Remove (3) motor mount bolts that run through the pan and the single nut on the plugs side. The chain on the cherry picker needs to be adjusted like this...

http://89rag.nopistons.com/gallery/a...4103.sized.jpg

At this point the engine can be pulled out and the trans will follow ( with some adjustment to the jack) It can be a one man job and go smoothly with a little patients and, as far as I'm concerned, it beats the hell out of trying to fumble w/ all the damn housing bolts

g_dripht-alex 02-27-2004 09:45 PM

hell yeah. thats what i was lookin for. thanks alot, i guess the tranny's comin out to. much appreciated...just wondering where did you attach the hoist...

pengaru 02-27-2004 10:19 PM

I really prefer taking them out seperately, doing them as one can be tough sometimes to avoid scratching things like the torque tunnel... I've never had a major problem with the bolts on the bell housing, I just use a rachet from underneath to get all the bolts except for the top 2 and the one nut on the center top bolt... without trouble.



then on the top two I just use a box end wrench with a second wrench interlocked into the open end for more leverage, it works every time. Last engine I pulled my wife undid the top bolts using this method... if she can do it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png



just gotta remember to use mechanical advantage, if it's difficult, make the lever longer!

j9fd3s 02-27-2004 10:46 PM

give me a longer lever and i can move the world? i did that like twice this week, still have all my fingers too

vosko 02-27-2004 10:47 PM

its easier to put back in with the trans on it....

FrestyleFC3S 02-27-2004 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Feb 27 2004, 11:46 PM
give me a longer lever and i can move the world? i did that like twice this week, still have all my fingers too

yeah but what about all your toes!

89 Rag 02-28-2004 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by g_dripht-alex' date='Feb 27 2004, 07:45 PM
hell yeah. thats what i was lookin for. thanks alot, i guess the tranny's comin out to. much appreciated...just wondering where did you attach the hoist...

The stock engine has two brackets that are usually bolted to the first plate and the last, I have found it's o.k. to move one from the rear to the middle plate so the chain will allow you to achieve the right geometry to get the unit(s) out. The "brackets" will bend a little, just make sure you use some grade 6 or better bolts, better safe than sorry.



It is true, like vosko said, installing is easier than removing, but with an extra set of hands, it should be easy.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 11:34 AM

i dont even think i have those brackets...cuase i looked in the FSM and it said to do the same thing and i had no clue what it was talking about. could they be removed? possibly the previous owner removed them?

FrestyleFC3S 02-28-2004 12:16 PM

the brackets are on the front and rear plates for NA cars only





on the turbo cars theyre on the UIM and rats nest elbow on the driver side of the engine



if youve removed your rats nest you have removed one of the brackets





what i did to remove it and drop back in was take a chain and attach it to one of the downpipe studs, and bolt it on there....then on the ps/ac studs where the plate went, bolt the chain there



then adjust the chain at teh top where the hook is on the lift....then level it when you have to

ROTARYROCKET7 02-28-2004 12:21 PM

yeah dont work on it alone know what i mean. Hey if you can post pics of ure progress that would be so nice.



Jason nyc

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 12:30 PM

ill go get pictures rightttt now. give me 5 minutes.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 12:40 PM

before.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 12:40 PM

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after.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 12:40 PM

drivers side.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 12:41 PM

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passenger side.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 12:41 PM

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box of parts.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 12:43 PM

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more parts...in my room.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 12:45 PM

and this is where i stand as of now. ive taken out anything thats worth any amount of money in the car since people like to brake into my garage. i will work her a little more later on, im still kinda sore and i feel crappy and im not in any real rush to get it apart...

ROTARYROCKET7 02-28-2004 01:00 PM

thanks good pics man. U planning on disassebling the entire engine, take flixxz too lol

Dorifc3s 02-28-2004 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Feb 26 2004, 06:13 PM
Wrench plus breaker bar plus steady torque should break those nuts loose.. Did you try that?

plud some screw loose lube would help ALOT,

ColinRX7 02-28-2004 02:19 PM

Nice work on that UIM!

FrestyleFC3S 02-28-2004 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by g_dripht-alex' date='Feb 28 2004, 01:40 PM
after.

wtf is that nipple thing on the UIM

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Feb 28 2004, 12:19 PM
Nice work on that UIM!

my friend is starting a little polishing business and is doing it for super cheap, so he's using alot of thestuff from my car as an example. its awesome, my turbo, LIM, TB, UIM and some other various things are gonna be polished. yeah its overkill, its gonna rock.



ps. i have no clue what that nipple is even for, i think it was blocked off. meh.

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by ROTARYROCKET7' date='Feb 28 2004, 11:00 AM
thanks good pics man. U planning on disassebling the entire engine, take flixxz too lol

i will, you can shoot by my house one day to if you want.

FrestyleFC3S 02-28-2004 05:31 PM

alex take a pic of the back side of the UIM and the nipple thinger unit

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 11:08 PM

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okay. sweetikins.

FrestyleFC3S 02-28-2004 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by g_dripht-alex' date='Feb 29 2004, 12:08 AM
okay. sweetikins.

no wrong side





in the last pic, the far right of the manifold, where the turbo is .. that area..



take a pic of that

g_dripht-alex 02-28-2004 11:23 PM

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another view mike, but only becasue your so god damn sexy.

FrestyleFC3S 02-28-2004 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by g_dripht-alex' date='Feb 29 2004, 12:23 AM
another view mike, but only becasue your so god damn sexy.

weirded out!





mines not like that


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