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sleeperRX7 08-07-2002 10:37 PM

ok i got approved for a 1500 dollar personal loan and have the following mods done



dual alternator pulley

intake

gutted all 3 cats

no ps/ac/ or airpump/ acv block off plate





with 1500 to spend,it all goes into my car, what would you do to get the most of of it? the car is a 88 rx-7 non turbo GXL model 5 speed. any answers are welcome let em rip,later



anything thats within resaon too,lol i need a new clutch and im going to buy new tranny mounts and a new driveshaft with replaceable joints on it so thats about a good 6 hundred of it already

Rotaryman88 08-07-2002 10:42 PM

Ok, begin with a full exhaust: Headers, presilencer and catback +30HP(with intake you already have) costs anywhere from $700 to $1200



Or you can go ahead and get a lightweight flywheel...no HP gain, but makes car accelerate faster. NOS kit possibly...good wheels & tires, the possibilites are endless, but unfortunately, 1500 isnt enough to gain all THAT much...but its a nice start....

sleeperRX7 08-07-2002 10:45 PM

i had nitous in my old civic,it was fun until i fucked the motor and then when the cra was sitting in my yard some one stole most of the nitrous hardware:( the exhaust idea is what it will prob be, i want a ported intake manifold from a guy on this site thats gonna open a import store

pengaru 08-07-2002 10:46 PM

take out the personal loan, and sell the GXL, then buy a TurboII.



Trust me on this one, I have a GXL and have spent > $1500 on mods, TurboII is definately the best route if you want to go fast w/budget, although the GXL has been quite reliable for me... unlike .. some peoples coughcoughvoskocoughcough TurboII's https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR

sleeperRX7 08-07-2002 10:53 PM

lol, there are no turbo 2's around here i have the only nice rx-7 from what ive seen around here the last 3 diff ones ive seen run like **** and look like it too,no one even wants to inspect mine for me even the mazda dealership said they hated the rx-7s





would a street port yield good results?

Rotaryman88 08-07-2002 11:01 PM

Streetport will cost more then 1500...



Go w/ the exhaust, and if you have any $$ left look for a lightweight flywheel...

Turbo II 08-07-2002 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by Rotaryman88' date='Aug 7 2002, 11:01 PM
Streetport will cost more then 1500...



Go w/ the exhaust, and if you have any $$ left look for a lightweight flywheel...

thats about all the money there on the exhaust.

rotary88 08-07-2002 11:10 PM

but is a light flywheel streetable only reason i ask cuz i might get in the not to far away future as one of my mods

Rotaryman88 08-07-2002 11:16 PM

A lightweight flywheel is very streetable...just dont go nuts, a nice 12lbs flywheel is a good choice....

rotary88 08-07-2002 11:21 PM

aluminum right?

Rotaryman88 08-07-2002 11:48 PM

Yeah...anything below 17lbs will most likely be aluminum...

vosko 08-08-2002 12:02 AM

i have a 17lb flywheel on my TII. it seems to be a good midway between 9lbs and stock https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png the car rev's pretty damn fast with it. can't complain https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

pengaru 08-08-2002 05:26 AM

http://pengaru.com/~swivel/cars/rx-7/status.html



even after all this i'm not satisfied and it's way beyond $1500, i'm in the process of a rebuild ... street porting it and moving to series 5 rotors, turbo rotor housings turbo intermediate housing... series 5 intake (vdi) , with all this work and putting a haltech i'll be just breaking ~230HP most likely, anyone care to comment?



trust me, find a turboii unless you're going to spend much $$ on building the NA, or willing to be content with a relatively slow car, even modded.

vosko 08-08-2002 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Aug 8 2002, 06:26 AM
http://pengaru.com/~swivel/cars/rx-7/status.html



even after all this i'm not satisfied and it's way beyond $1500, i'm in the process of a rebuild ... street porting it and moving to series 5 rotors, turbo rotor housings turbo intermediate housing... series 5 intake (vdi) , with all this work and putting a haltech i'll be just breaking ~230HP most likely, anyone care to comment?



trust me, find a turboii unless you're going to spend much $$ on building the NA, or willing to be content with a relatively slow car, even modded.

get a bridge port it will be fast then :bigok:



your GXL has alot of mods!!!! i almost went that route...... got hooked on turbo cars..... i'm not going to be racing my TII as much so it should be MUCH more reliable https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

pengaru 08-08-2002 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Aug 8 2002, 03:17 PM
[quote name='pengaru' date='Aug 8 2002, 06:26 AM']http://pengaru.com/~swivel/cars/rx-7/status.html



even after all this i'm not satisfied and it's way beyond $1500, i'm in the process of a rebuild ... street porting it and moving to series 5 rotors, turbo rotor housings turbo intermediate housing... series 5 intake (vdi) , with all this work and putting a haltech i'll be just breaking ~230HP most likely, anyone care to comment?



trust me, find a turboii unless you're going to spend much $$ on building the NA, or willing to be content with a relatively slow car, even modded.

get a bridge port it will be fast then :bigok:



your GXL has alot of mods!!!! i almost went that route...... got hooked on turbo cars..... i'm not going to be racing my TII as much so it should be MUCH more reliable https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png[/quote]

Yup, last time I metered it, 0-60 was 7.5s w/wheelspin, that was with

just header and presilencer, and k&n drop-in w/airbox all there. With

all the current mods it should be pulling ~6.5s 0-60 times, but I no longer

have access to the ap-22... should probably get one of the new gtechs. My

justification for modding the GXL is reliability... tuning a turbo car is a bit

more risky but the payoff is much better. To get the GXL moving I'll spend more

than you have on your TurboII and not even get it going as fast, but I might

be able to do it with one engine :P



At least the car is fast enough to **** with i'd say at around 80% of the cars I

encounter on the street. I've only had two experiences with all the current

mods that made me feel really slow, one was an LS1 corvette, the other was

a newer porsche 911 carerra, I actually hung with the porsche on some twisties but in the straights it was a joke... the twisties were probably the driver being a *****.



I've been toying with the idea of a small turbo on my 'high' compression 6 port motor after getting the haltech... we'll see https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

1988RedT2 08-08-2002 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Aug 8 2002, 06:02 AM
i have a 17lb flywheel on my TII. it seems to be a good midway between 9lbs and stock https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png the car rev's pretty damn fast with it. can't complain https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

How much that lightweight steel flywheel cost?

89 Rag 08-08-2002 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' date='Aug 8 2002, 01:12 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Aug 8 2002, 06:02 AM']i have a 17lb flywheel on my TII. it seems to be a good midway between 9lbs and stock https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png the car rev's pretty damn fast with it. can't complain https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

How much that lightweight steel flywheel cost?[/quote]

between $300 - $500 bones depending on where you look

vosko 08-08-2002 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Aug 8 2002, 03:04 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Aug 8 2002, 03:17 PM'][quote name='pengaru' date='Aug 8 2002, 06:26 AM']http://pengaru.com/~swivel/cars/rx-7/status.html



even after all this i'm not satisfied and it's way beyond $1500, i'm in the process of a rebuild ... street porting it and moving to series 5 rotors, turbo rotor housings turbo intermediate housing... series 5 intake (vdi) , with all this work and putting a haltech i'll be just breaking ~230HP most likely, anyone care to comment?



trust me, find a turboii unless you're going to spend much $$ on building the NA, or willing to be content with a relatively slow car, even modded.

get a bridge port it will be fast then :bigok:



your GXL has alot of mods!!!! i almost went that route...... got hooked on turbo cars..... i'm not going to be racing my TII as much so it should be MUCH more reliable https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png[/quote]

Yup, last time I metered it, 0-60 was 7.5s w/wheelspin, that was with

just header and presilencer, and k&n drop-in w/airbox all there. With

all the current mods it should be pulling ~6.5s 0-60 times, but I no longer

have access to the ap-22... should probably get one of the new gtechs. My

justification for modding the GXL is reliability... tuning a turbo car is a bit

more risky but the payoff is much better. To get the GXL moving I'll spend more

than you have on your TurboII and not even get it going as fast, but I might

be able to do it with one engine :P



At least the car is fast enough to **** with i'd say at around 80% of the cars I

encounter on the street. I've only had two experiences with all the current

mods that made me feel really slow, one was an LS1 corvette, the other was

a newer porsche 911 carerra, I actually hung with the porsche on some twisties but in the straights it was a joke... the twisties were probably the driver being a *****.



I've been toying with the idea of a small turbo on my 'high' compression 6 port motor after getting the haltech... we'll see https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png[/quote]

my TII can hang with about 97% of the cars out there. 0-60 about 5.0... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png i just want it to run 12's soon https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png if i find a good deal on a 89-90 GTUs i'll pick one up for a super reliable fun car to drive https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



it's cheaper to goto the track and find out what your 1/4 mile time is then approximate your 0-60 using the websites in the gen d forum https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



i need a new speedo cable. it would be nice to see how fast i'm going https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

vosko 08-08-2002 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' date='Aug 8 2002, 03:12 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Aug 8 2002, 06:02 AM']i have a 17lb flywheel on my TII. it seems to be a good midway between 9lbs and stock https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png the car rev's pretty damn fast with it. can't complain https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

How much that lightweight steel flywheel cost?[/quote]

i got mine used from judge ito along with a used act 6 puck race clutch that we installed. but they go for around $300-$500. if your gonna do a clutch job might as well get a new flywheel. mine had stress cracks in it with the stock clutch...



if anyone wants a stock clutch off my jspec its sitting in my garage. i gotta take pix of all the crap in my garage i wanna sell!

Rob x-7 08-08-2002 07:33 PM

A 4.3 rear, other then that, keep the money or spend it on the stereo/rims or some ****, your not going to make the car THAT much faster anyhow.

pengaru 08-08-2002 08:01 PM

if you're determined to make the car fast, get the 4.3 rear end and a RB header and presilencer (or the compatible cat from mazdatrix) thats pertty much all your money right there. Cut out the top of your airbox or visit home depot motorsports to do something about the intake end. Realize once you start going faster (and driving like an ass more often as a result) you will need a clutch soon, wear your trans more, and stress your motor more. You may be checking the limit on your credit card a few months after the loan https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png A lightweight flywheel really frees up the rev's and makes driving alot more fun too, short throw shifter is also a nice addition.



I have a modified air box sitting in the garage with a ~20k mile K&N drop-in filter sitting in it, it was better than the stock air box but I definately felt loss of power in high rpm's > 90mph, but 1st-3rd > 6k you could really feel the difference, once the aux ports opened the tone changed completely and the motor would rocket to 8k, this didnt really happen with the stock airbox. However, I had many other mods done so your mileage may vary. Email me if you wanna buy the airbox+filter, i'll probably throw it out otherwise. This way you would still have your stock air box in case you don't like the results. (it's kindof loud) ... BTW, I believe the loss of power > 90mph was due to losing the mild ram-air effect the stock setup had at those speeds....

1Revvin7 08-08-2002 08:43 PM

just take out a 7,000 dollar loan like me, yep cutting me the check tommorrow, and mod the FU&* out of your car! ahah :bigok:

horn4858 08-08-2002 08:50 PM

rb headers and pineapple sleeves

pengaru 08-08-2002 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by horn4858' date='Aug 9 2002, 02:50 AM
rb headers and pineapple sleeves

How much do the pineapple sleeves help? I was considering buying those sleeves but now I'm thiking about just pulling out the sleeves and using jb-weld in the port itself to smooth out the flow and eliminate the sleevs and actuators altogether (and remove the obstruction from the aux port runner caused by the actuator linkage) this seemed like it would improve the flow characteristics of the aux ports more than just the sleeves. Anyone have any experience with this?


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