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Leetheslacker 02-02-2007 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by 89rx7gtu' post='856619' date='Feb 2 2007, 01:45 AM

you say it is alot of fun....... which tells me you have or know someone that has done it! what do i need to do to the N/A to get that power out of it??? i have seen that they make turbo conversion kits for my motor, granted it is alot of work and fun, not to mention alot of beer, but it can be done! i know that it would be hard because of the compression of my motor, but i am willy to try it! first i want to punch some power with no turbo and then when i get used to that much power with that little car..... then i will put the turbo on it and really have some fun! give me some ideas if you can please! i know about porting and fuel to air and so on, but is there anything more special about these cars??? thanks!





im in the middle of something. Im pretty much adapting all the stock turbo parts to my NA block. intake manifolds, electronics, the works. its been a fun project so far, i just need to finish it! i still need a fuel pump, boost gauge, and a wideband for safety, but i think i wont have spent more then 1-1500 on the whole thing once im done.

Maxt 02-02-2007 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by rowtareh' post='856917' date='Feb 2 2007, 05:29 PM
Maxt, what does your's idle at though? That's the biggest thing that turns people off about them. Never heard a p-port at idle though. Heard plenty of b-ports though.

Most of the time its up in the 1100-1300 range, depending on temperature, it idles as low as 500 when its really cold outside. When its warmed up the idle will creep a bit because the throttlebodies I am using wont close enough to lower the idle speed further, if the throttlebodies would allow it, I would set it at 900.

rowtareh 02-02-2007 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Maxt' post='856954' date='Feb 2 2007, 09:18 PM

Most of the time its up in the 1100-1300 range, depending on temperature, it idles as low as 500 when its really cold outside. When its warmed up the idle will creep a bit because the throttlebodies I am using wont close enough to lower the idle speed further, if the throttlebodies would allow it, I would set it at 900.



Oh, that ain't to bad. Got any vid or sound clip of it idling/running?

Maxt 02-02-2007 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by rowtareh' post='856980' date='Feb 2 2007, 06:43 PM



Oh, that ain't to bad. Got any vid or sound clip of it idling/running?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYPyDSZ6Uo0

I just uploaded one, of the initial startup, it was running on a 4x1600cc map, still not bad for the first couple of minutes of run time.. Next time I go grocery shopping I will shoot a tuned idle vid..

It might take a few minutes for youtube to approve the video.

jwteknix 02-02-2007 08:16 PM

omg sounds so delisious

j9fd3s 02-02-2007 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Maxt' post='857002' date='Feb 2 2007, 06:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYPyDSZ6Uo0

I just uploaded one, of the initial startup, it was running on a 4x1600cc map, still not bad for the first couple of minutes of run time.. Next time I go grocery shopping I will shoot a tuned idle vid..

It might take a few minutes for youtube to approve the video.



not bad, even with the tune off like that, it still wants to run ok

sen2two 02-03-2007 12:12 PM

i put the full stock TII set up on my NA. only cost me about $500 or so. but you'll need a stand alone ECU or your motor will be short lived. oh, and of course fuel upgrades. and there was no more 6 ports on the manifold cause i used the TII intake manifolds. even if you use the NA ones, you can easily take the 6 port acuators off. i did this even while it still was NA.

KompressorLOgic 02-03-2007 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' post='856922' date='Feb 2 2007, 04:32 PM

im in the middle of something. Im pretty much adapting all the stock turbo parts to my NA block. intake manifolds, electronics, the works. its been a fun project so far, i just need to finish it! i still need a fuel pump, boost gauge, and a wideband for safety, but i think i wont have spent more then 1-1500 on the whole thing once im done.





yeah turboing the 6port NA block isnt that hard, ive done it



pretty much to do it, you need everything for a turbo swap minus the motor, thats the turbo, the intake manifolds, ecu, injectors, afm, boost sensor, ect.... then you just port match the 4 port intake to the 6 port block, and then of course custom oil and coolent lines...



If you dont have all those parts laying around its probbaly a better idea to buy a real t2 engine with all the goods on it.



( however it works great when your in a situation like me where u have all the turbo parts but no turbo blocks!! haha )



i would aslo not recomend doing this to a high milage motor as it wont last very long if its allready worn out.

rowtareh 02-03-2007 03:02 PM

So what do you guys do for tuning? As most know, the compression of the N/A rotors is higher than the Turbo's. So how do you overcome it? Or is it just not that much of a big deal?

jwteknix 02-03-2007 03:04 PM

i believe they run lower boost with a standalone to monitor wats goin on


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