FCmaniac

Drag racing is definitely "real racing". Anyone who is successful at bracket racing knows how hard it is. Anyone who thinks all you need to be good at drag racing is the most money and boost, juice, whatever is wrong.



There is nothing wrong with NA RX-7's if you can stand how straight line slow they are. If people really want a turbo car, they would just buy it and shut the **** up already... at least I would. The next turbo car I buy will probably not be an RX-7. That might be "blasphemy" or whatever but look at all the threads of how sensitive they are to boosting, people blowing motors, cars never running, etc.

Rob x-7

show me these people with 250whp dyno #s for stock TIIs

and tell me how long thier cars have been running.



not ESTIMATED 250whp, dyno 250whp.

1Revvin7

Ok 1revvin7...i'm going to let you have it right now. You bought a junkyard motor, slapped a big hairdryer on it, and blew it up. You bought a motor of dubious origin and didnt rebuild it. I have been on the forum for a little over a year and your car ran for about 3 days..maybe a week, i dont remember. All you did was complain that it didnt make boost.



I dont have anything personal against you.





I never saw a thread with you compression checking it. you post threads of everything you do to the car.



"just crank the boost" .....................bang



There is a lot more to racing than ******* dragging and stupid *** male souvinist street racing. I would LOVE to see you try to hold your own on a road course in that car against other b-prod cars that you would be classified with. NA is the ONLY route to go if you are doing any sort of EMRA,SCCA,NASA, canyon carving, You know, what real racers and drivers do. My Vert is slow, and mostly stock exept for a t2 driveline, i love it and its fast enough. [/quote]

I don't feel like explaining my situation that you already know so much about.

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ

Damn you people are harsh, 1 revvin dont stress it you will shut them all up soon ! ! ! its coming lol Like I said it dosent matter if you want to turbo an n/a or do a TII swap it all comes down to what your goals are hell i want to be a fast RX-7 NA/nitrous then boost on a TII



Im going to build a nice streetport N/A S4 engine with S5 rotors and nitrous mabey 100 hp shot but of coures all the goodies that go along with building an engine for nitrous. More fuel, 3 mm seals, hardened stationary gears, thoes purrty bearings, all that stuff and the next RX im gonna buy will be an s4 tII looking for one as we speak! Then i will have the best of both worlds. and I want a 3rd RX as a beater I might get that se that i have striped and do a v8 rx who knows.

RONIN FC

There is some key words in there, *stock TII*. You shouldnt be trying to get 250 rwhp on a stock TII. Now is 250 hp safe for stock turbo and internals, I think so. But tuning of fuel is THE #1 most important thing, folowed by engine intake temp.



I think a big problem tuners face is the slow ECU that these cars came with. Its sad that our Play Stations are more powerfull then the engine management of our multi thousand dollar engines.

1Revvin7

Lets clear a couple things up.



1) I never said stock



2) I said everyone I know with t2s has or either will have atleast 250rwhp by spring



Now with that said,

Brad on here, aka Whiplash has dyno graphs for over 450rwhp

TII77 is going to run upwards over 12-14psi on his car with all the bolts on. My other friend Kevin before he blew his motor was running 14psi in 2nd, and 17psi in 3rd will all the bolt ons. I have seen dyno graphs of stock port/turbo/motor s4 running 14psi making 280rwhp.

I am not going to go waste my time searching for the graphs, I have already wasted all this time PROVING to you that I know what the **** I am talking about.

1Revvin7

Ok 1revvin7...i'm going to let you have it right now. You bought a junkyard motor, slapped a big hairdryer on it, and blew it up. You bought a motor of dubious origin and didnt rebuild it. I have been on the forum for a little over a year and your car ran for about 3 days..maybe a week, i dont remember. All you did was complain that it didnt make boost.



I dont have anything personal against you.





I never saw a thread with you compression checking it. you post threads of everything you do to the car.



"just crank the boost" .....................bang



There is a lot more to racing than ******* dragging and stupid *** male souvinist street racing. I would LOVE to see you try to hold your own on a road course in that car against other b-prod cars that you would be classified with. NA is the ONLY route to go if you are doing any sort of EMRA,SCCA,NASA, canyon carving, You know, what real racers and drivers do. My Vert is slow, and mostly stock exept for a t2 driveline, i love it and its fast enough. [/quote]

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Please tell me the relevance of your entire post in response to the statement of mine that you quoted.



I bought a motor from a running t2 with Mazda rebuild tags on it for a what was a damn good deal for a supposed good motor, and gues what it has a warranty. The motor was blown before I bought it, you know how I know? It had a lopey idle like a huge sideport, had no torque, and couldn't spool my turbo. I was running on average 4psi, wouldn't spool till 6k in 1st.



And me complaining??? Ok maybe you have trouble making the distinction of complaing and asking for help.



And in my original statement I never said a t2 wouldn't blow if someone " just cranks up the boost". I said if you want to make power on a t2 no need to get nitrous, you already have boost. Just crank it up. And your whole entire post has absolutely nothing of relevance that EVEN REFUTES my position on nitrous on a t2. You're talking about racing and my road racing abilities.... Is it me or does your post sound like a rap song; jumping all over the place and not making any sense..



I never said anything about boosted applications in racing, I know n/as are better for that. Hell the k2 n/a itr car with 150rwhp does better times than a 400rwhp t2 at Willow Springs.

Rotarydragon

Not hard to make a TII faster and reliable engine wise, ask UniqueTII. His car was quite fast wasn't heavily modded.



As for a turbo upgrade to an N/A if it were cheap enough then sure. If you could buy a TII for about the same cost then it's not really worth it.



As someone noted the N/A powertrain is not all that strong, I've not come across one yet that wasn't growling at the 100k mile mark.

BigTurbo74

haha i think revvin is right about the rap song observation, there is a lot of misunderstanding going on here, el is trying to explain why t2's don't need nitrous to go fast,, i think, rob is talking about how 7's are always in the garage, and apex is talking about driving skills and how elliot blew his engine, haha which he didn't by the way... anyway let's talk about the fact of how good of an idea a turbo kit for n/a's but how hard it will be to make them work well for a cheap price eh?

13BAce

You symptoms don't necessarily imlpy that the motor is blown. I once had a similar problem and it turned out to be a problem with the throttle body.