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Shane.Trammell 03-22-2006 12:42 AM

hey guys, first of all its nice to be back to np. you dont have to tell me how much you missed me bc i know everyone did and that would just take up to much time and space.



as i searched for threads in 2nd gen about auto to manual swaps i noticed that over the years ive made about 1,342,349,099 of them but this should be one of the last ones bc im picking up the parts on saturday to do the swap and while i know i will have a lot of questions i will try to keep them all in this thread. ok now on to my question at the moment



how will i get the flywheel onto the auto e-shaft? will it bolt right on? actually im thinking i may take the car to a shop to have the flywheel/clutch done so really what i should be asking is how should i tell the guys at the shop to put the flywheel on. thanks for the help (especially banzai, hint hint i know youve done this swap) and good luck to me

One320B 03-22-2006 10:31 AM

Where did you go? How long were you gone for, lol?? It's ok..I come & go too...

j9fd3s 03-22-2006 01:22 PM

flywhizzle goes right on, but you can get an aftermarket flywheel, and you already have the counterwieght, so you dont have to buy it!

banzaitoyota 03-22-2006 02:12 PM

dont forget to install a pilot bearing!!!!

Shane.Trammell 03-23-2006 08:39 PM

im planning on just using the stock flywheel, hopefully it will be in good enough shape to use from the parts car. is the pilot bearing something that i will be able to re use?



is there anything special i will have to tell the shop that does the work? will they even be able to tell that this was not a manual car if i have installed everything but the flywheel, clutch, tranny, and driveshaft? id really rather not say anything about a manual swap bc i asked a few shops a while back about the swap and they were very turned off by the idea, especially since its a rotary and everyone is afraid of them.

Shane.Trammell 03-23-2006 09:25 PM

hey does anywhere know where i can get the manual section of the fsm? when i DLed it before i didnt get the manual trans section bc i didnt have a manual. i tried 1300cc.com and iluvmyrx7.com but couldnt find them.

banzaitoyota 03-23-2006 10:53 PM

the auto E-Shaft wont have a pilot bearing installed in it, You need it and the ppilot bearing seal. DO NOT use a USED throw out bearing either, in fact get the TII Throw out bearing. Mike? Part numbers please

Shane.Trammell 03-23-2006 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' post='809676' date='Mar 23 2006, 10:53 PM

the auto E-Shaft wont have a pilot bearing installed in it, You need it and the ppilot bearing seal. DO NOT use a USED throw out bearing either, in fact get the TII Throw out bearing. Mike? Part numbers please





is it ok to re use the pilot bearing from the manual parts car? i dont need the part numbers, ill just go through mazdatrix. thanks a lot.





haha, i just realized i asked "does anywhere know where i can get the..." i meant does anyone know, whoops.

Shane.Trammell 03-23-2006 11:21 PM

hey it looks like the TO is the same for NA and turbo, is that not the case? the part numbers on Mtrix are the same.

banzaitoyota 03-23-2006 11:32 PM

F853-16-510 Throwout bearing



Its not worth the $25 bux or so to reuse a pilot bearing and seal IF you were even able to remove it intact

Shane.Trammell 03-23-2006 11:51 PM

this is what i get for the TO for NA and turbo. http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.as...m=16-510C-G561



yeah the pilot bearing is like $11 and the seal is like $2.50 so its not a big deal.

89 Rag 03-24-2006 12:00 AM

Save the money you are gonna spend in labor



you can do it!

Shane.Trammell 03-24-2006 12:47 AM

ive never done a clutch or transmission and dont have air tools. could i really do it?

89 Rag 03-24-2006 01:12 AM

If you don't really have a clue or you are depending on the car to earn a living no you probably shouldn't.



On the other hand, if you have a place to put the car and are able to take your time and not hurry through it sure, I don't see why not, air tools are not a necessity you can get the job done without them, it just makes the whole process a little faster using the pneumatics.



Do you have all the other stuff, the cross member braket is fabbed to fit, all that good stuff?

Shane.Trammell 03-24-2006 10:34 AM

i will have all of the other stuff tomorrow, i have to go pick it up. i havent looked under the car to see if its one of the lucky one that got the auto and manual mount points but if it doesnt i will just order them from mazda and have them welded in. the car has been sitting in the garage for about 9 months so ive got the time and dont really need the car.



arent there special tools needed to do the clutch like the clutch alignment tool, etc?

89 Rag 03-24-2006 11:00 AM

it's like five bucks, the alignment tool, no biggy, like the pilot bearing.

Shane.Trammell 03-29-2006 11:06 PM

started today, worked on it for about 6 hours and got the pedals done and the master cyl installed. i ended up having to hack saw the end of the long pedal bolt off bc the threads were damaged. it worked out though



i really need that manual section of the FSM. if someone could give me a link or email it to me id do something really special for you. not really but i do need it.



oh yeah, the fsm says the clutch is ok it theres like .3mm of meat left on it. is that true and if so how long would that much last? the clutch i got with the parts has probably at least 1mm on it and a new disc is like $70.



the guy said the pressure plate i got with the parts is almost new but it got wet so there is a little bit of surface rust on it. what should i use to clean it off? the fsm says to use emery paper to clean it but i dont know if that would work bc i dont even know what that is.



ok thanks

Shane.Trammell 05-19-2006 06:32 PM

i need the part number for the mount point humps that need to be welded on. does anyone know it?

j9fd3s 05-20-2006 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' post='820060' date='May 19 2006, 04:32 PM

i need the part number for the mount point humps that need to be welded on. does anyone know it?



there isnt one, they come with the entire floor pan. what you need to do is get unca banzai to cut a pair out of a parts car, or something

Shane.Trammell 05-20-2006 01:30 PM

is it really a problem to use this method for the mounting?

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the car is all stock and will stay that way. if its a bad idea to do it that way i will need the mounts so does anyone want to sell me some?

j9fd3s 05-20-2006 01:41 PM

floor really isnt designed to have that kind of a load on it. for temporary its prolly ok, long term, with hard driving its prolly not

Cheers! 05-20-2006 07:56 PM

I'm pretty certain that those two brackets will bend, and eventually fail. You should do it properly and find a donar car and cut out the floor pan where the mounts goto and weld it into your car.

Shane.Trammell 07-11-2006 07:33 PM

got the car back today and its great to be driving it again. the shifter bushings are shot so im gonna order new ones. on mazdatrix it shows the upper and lower bushings but also has a "groove bushing." do i need that too?



the reverse switch on the transmission is bad. what should i do to replace that and does anyone have one bc i dont see one on mazdatrix.



also, i still need a copy of the manual section of the fsm. if someone could send that to me or give me a link that would be cool. thanks





oh yeah, the cruise doesnt work now. how can i make that work?

Shane.Trammell 07-11-2006 10:22 PM

nm about the fsm i found it.


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