Jims5543

I wish I could use the stock shroud and fan. The engine swap has basically killed that.



I have a POS summit fan in the car. When I look at how much I have spent on the car it seems stupid to skimp on the fan.



I am planning on fabricating a nice shroud.

Jims5543

I re read your post Banzai



I already have installed a Fluidyne alum radiator. When we swapped this engine in I just "threw in" the current fan while I looked for a better one.



I considered the Taurus fan from a junkyard but decided to go w/ a new fan.



I decided on the Be Cool line beause it is a proven product.



I have been contemplating this fan issue for some time now. I decided a duel puller would be the best. A lot of thought is going into this.

banzaitoyota

I would make my shroud as "deep" as possible away from the Radiator, The last thing you want is stagnant air in the shroud region. The best approach I can think of is to mock up a shroud, (making it an integral part of the Be-Cool shroud mount points) out of styrofaom sheets (glued and stacked). Then have a good (ie ROB) fiberglass guy make a mold from it and pull a nice shroud. It could be Feiberglass or ever CF (heavan forbid I speak the ricer phrase).



The advantage of this method is you can sculpt nice smooth transitions into the shroud to minimize "dead zones".



Just a humble idea from the mind of BANZAI.

Nemesis

The main reason I liked the Taurus fan, besides fan speed and cost, was the fact that the shroud fit almost pefectly on the stock radiator. I'll post some pics later on. I've been up all night playing poker.

Rob x-7

Amazing how much trust people put into a $35 fan from a junk yard, Who is to say how long a junk yard fan will work anyhow?



maybe Jim just wants a NEW fan for his car. Jim obviously has

spent alot of time and money on his car, and takes a good deal

of pride in it, maybe he doesnt want to bolt up a fan from a car

thats over 10 years old and take his chances that it might crap out

at any time.



where did this 3000cfm rating for the taurus fan come from anyhow?



For a cost comparison I looked up a aftermarket fan and shroud

as a replacement for a 1990 V6 Taurus with AC and a shroud, it

was $277, being a Sunday I could not call up Ford for thier price

for a OEM one, nor could I find the specs.



I know if I had the money into the car like he did I would rather

go with something new and spend the extra money if it gave me piece

of mind.

Rob x-7

actually, according to this site : FAN the Ford fan pulls 2000cfm, you would

still have to purchase a 75 amp relay, the wiring, the fan controller, as

well as a mounting kit and a diode.



That stuff, according to the web site, cost them

a additional $77 over the cost of the junk yard fan.



Buying a new fan kit it comes with all the things required to install it.



75 amps seems like a **** load of a relay for a fan, I know I have read the

Taurus fan draws alot of power, but 75amps is alot for 2000cfm.



a quote from them:



"Using a Fluke digital clamp ammeter, we tested the starting (or inrush) current draw and the operating current draw. The Taurus fan pulled a little over 130 amps on startup (only for milliseconds) and settled down to right around 40 amps using the high-speed wire. This is why you must upgrade to the bigger alternator and a Bosch high-powered relay"



I know most people just slap this sucker right in the car and drive away with it

thinking they have improved thier cooling, but unless properly installed there is

no way the fan is operating at its 2000cfm capacity.

1Revvin7

40amps thats a ton...

teknics

yea it is, im happy with my fiero fan but still need a bigger alternator.



kevin.

Jims5543

Thanks Rob, Banzai and Mazdadrifter you guys understand where I am coming from. I have spent 10's of thousands on this car. Should I cheap out now and buy a $35 fan because someone on the internet said it was good???



If you have a Taurus fan and it works for you great. My crappy Summit fan works too for daily driving. Autocross is a whole other ballgame. You drive the car really hard for 40-90 seconds then stop. Cars do not like to stop after a hard 90 seconds of pushing, I usually try to take a short ride at about 50 MPH but that is not feesable sometimes due to the venue layout.



I need a freaking hurricane under my hood on demand. I think w/ a good shroud and some thought this fan I have picked will be awesome.

TheCamel

Just a word of caution. When using an E-Fan and a large single turbo, be wary of the turbo pulling enough CFM to pull the blades into the shroud. I have seen it on 2 FC's one running a T51s and the other with a 20b running a T76, under boost with an open face the fans were ripped apart. Flex-o-lite twins similar to what you have pictured.